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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:35 PM Oct 2019

Bernie Sanders Had Heart Attack, His Doctors Say, as He Leaves Hospital

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/bernie-sanders-hospital.html

Senator Bernie Sanders had a heart attack this week, his campaign said on Friday, as he was released from a Las Vegas hospital.

“After two and a half days in the hospital, I feel great, and after taking a short time off, I look forward to getting back to work,” Mr. Sanders said in a statement.


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Bernie Sanders Had Heart Attack, His Doctors Say, as He Leaves Hospital (Original Post) SidDithers Oct 2019 OP
Hes still at it. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #1
Yup, Bernie is not gonna let a silly heart attack slow him down one little bit!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #39
Agreed! Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #41
Now all the cynics will be out there saying he'd better call it quits. YOHABLO Oct 2019 #2
He should call it quits... SidDithers Oct 2019 #5
I (and many others) agree. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #6
The doctors said that he had a myocardial infarction.... George II Oct 2019 #22
That's exactly as I suspected. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #3
I don't think it is a good idea for Sanders to go full speed ahead. katmondoo Oct 2019 #4
You think campaigning is tough... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #8
"Even do-nothing Trump looks bad" PJMcK Oct 2019 #26
I'm looking for someone with the vigor and vitality to serve EIGHT full years. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #27
I can't believe his doctors let him out of the hospital after three days AND are letting him.... George II Oct 2019 #13
Que sara sara... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #23
I wish him well mcar Oct 2019 #7
Funny... because in this very forum, on this very day... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #9
Unfair to me but not to thee, apparently. mcar Oct 2019 #10
+1000 sheshe2 Oct 2019 #16
And no CTs. betsuni Oct 2019 #21
That's why they were so secretive about it. George II Oct 2019 #11
Fantastic to hear he is feeling great. Back to fighting for Medicare for All with Warren. BeckyDem Oct 2019 #12
"Thanks for posting the great news!"??? Sid posted that he had a heart attack. That's good news? George II Oct 2019 #14
He is feeling great, I believe that is the obvious point of the information. BeckyDem Oct 2019 #15
That's what they're saying, but no one is "great" less than three days after a heart attack. George II Oct 2019 #17
According to you. I believe Bernie. BeckyDem Oct 2019 #18
Whatever. I believe cardiologists. George II Oct 2019 #19
Keep persisting he is not feeling great. It makes you happy, go for it. BeckyDem Oct 2019 #20
Feeling 'great' is not the same thing as being healthy... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #35
lol BeckyDem Oct 2019 #36
At first they were insisting he hadn't had a heart attack. So this isn't great news. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #24
Why wouldn't they be forthcoming and honest from the very beginning? NurseJackie Oct 2019 #25
I don't understand why they thought it was a good idea to wait three days to announce this pnwmom Oct 2019 #29
I guess they were totally unprepared.... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #30
Well, not for you. BeckyDem Oct 2019 #32
Goodness. I hope he's feeling better. bearsfootball516 Oct 2019 #28
From the Texas Heart Institute: apcalc Oct 2019 #31
Excellent information and advice. Thanks for sharing that... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #33
Sadly, there are a lot of people who wished Bernie died. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #34
Yeah, that or fake sympathy... not unexpected. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #40
Has campaign surrogate DrDooleyMD weighed in on her candidate's heart attack? lapucelle Oct 2019 #37
It's decision time. It's 13 months before the election and then 4 more years to serve if he wins. brush Oct 2019 #38
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. Hes still at it.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:37 PM
Oct 2019

Good for him!

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primary today, I would vote for:
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
39. Yup, Bernie is not gonna let a silly heart attack slow him down one little bit!!
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:37 AM
Oct 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
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YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
2. Now all the cynics will be out there saying he'd better call it quits.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:43 PM
Oct 2019

Media will be on a roll with this.

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
5. He should call it quits...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:02 PM
Oct 2019

he's not healthy enough to run for President.

Sid

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. I (and many others) agree.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:11 PM
Oct 2019

I hope that his doctors and Jane agree with me as well.

This isn't like getting over the flu.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
22. The doctors said that he had a myocardial infarction....
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:05 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.verywellhealth.com/heart-attack-vs-cardiac-arrest-1746273

An MI occurs when a coronary artery, one of the arteries that supplies blood to the heart muscle, becomes suddenly blocked. The sudden blockage robs a portion of the heart muscle of its vital blood supply, and the muscle dies. So, a heart attack is the death of a part of the heart muscle.


This was not a minor incident or, as some here described it, an "out patient procedure".
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
3. That's exactly as I suspected.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:44 PM
Oct 2019

And everyone told me I was making-shit-up. From the very beginning, I knew this wasn't some simple "outpatient procedure". I knew something was up when he had that dizzy spell and fell in the hotel shower, busting his head open and needing stitches. There's a reason why they call coronary artery disease "the silent killer" (along with high blood pressure too... and the risk of strokes with no symptoms until it's too late... so keep an eye on your BP people!!!)

This is some serious and deadly business. Good to know that his doctors are taking it seriously... but it's a pity that his campaign was so cagey and stingy with the information that people deserved to know.

I watched that video with his current wife Jane and she was totally out of her element. She was saying positive words... but subconsciously shaking her head in a negative side-to-side gesture as she was saying them. When she had run through all the rehearsed talking points, she started to repeat herself. It was uncomfortable to watch. I kinda felt sorry for her for a second.

I'm just saying that anyone who hopes to be our party's nominee has given up the privacy expectations that ordinary citizens expect... whether medical or financial. It just comes with the territory... get used to it.

Also, since they're ONLY JUST-NOW admitting to us that he had a HEART ATTACK... I'm convinced that this could possibly and very likely be the "watered down" version of what really happened. It's an honest question, and people deserve honest answers.

The American voters DESERVE to know if the candidate they are being asked to consider nominating is actually healthy enough and strong enough for the VERY STRESSFUL job of President of the United States and Leader of the Free World.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
4. I don't think it is a good idea for Sanders to go full speed ahead.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:58 PM
Oct 2019

I would rather see him live to enjoy the rest of his life. Campaigning is tough, do it but be careful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. You think campaigning is tough...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:23 PM
Oct 2019

... trying being president! (It's amazing to see how much the office ages the office-holder. Even do-nothing Trump looks bad.)

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PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
26. "Even do-nothing Trump looks bad"
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:25 AM
Oct 2019

Did Trump ever look "good?" The man has been a pig his whole life!

I wish Senator Sanders good health but I think his age and now questionable health make his candidacy untenable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
27. I'm looking for someone with the vigor and vitality to serve EIGHT full years.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:30 AM
Oct 2019

One of my priorities in choosing a candidate is to make sure that he (or she) is someone who can fulfill EIGHT YEARS (two terms) in office. There's so much to do... I just can's see how I could (in good conscience) vote for anyone who -- statistically speaking -- isn't likely to even finish the first four years.

All I'm trying to say is, we need a strong and HEALTHY president who will be able to "hit the ground running" and who will be able to CONTINUE to sprint the entire marathon distance. That is the candidate who will get my vote.

Now I know that others may have different priorities and standards that aren't as strict as mine are... but I do not believe I'm being unfair or unreasonable.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. I can't believe his doctors let him out of the hospital after three days AND are letting him....
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:44 PM
Oct 2019

....fly to Vermont with all the pressure changes on an aircraft.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. Que sara sara...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:06 PM
Oct 2019

... whatever will be will be.

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mcar

(42,334 posts)
7. I wish him well
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:14 PM
Oct 2019

But I can't help but remember those on social media screaming that another candidate wasn't fit to assume office because she had a bout with pneumonia.

I question why the media didn't question Sen. Sanders condition the way they did the other candidate.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Funny... because in this very forum, on this very day...
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:31 PM
Oct 2019

Funny... because in this very forum, on this very day... there are entire threads and subthreads that are replete with complaints about how "unfair" the media has been to BS.

I question why the media didn't question Sen. Sanders condition the way they did the other candidate.
Like you, I wonder the same thing. There's clearly a double standard.
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mcar

(42,334 posts)
10. Unfair to me but not to thee, apparently.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:33 PM
Oct 2019
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primary today, I would vote for:
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betsuni

(25,544 posts)
21. And no CTs.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:56 PM
Oct 2019

No speculation that Bernie has been hiding health issues for years, is lying about his health, has MS, wears a full body brace, wears diapers, has only months to live, has seizures during interviews, has a brain disfunction because of misspeaking once. No National Inquirer stories, WikiLeaks, InfoWars, Fox, questioning his mental and physical stamina. The media have been polite and respectful. How luxurious.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
11. That's why they were so secretive about it.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:37 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
12. Fantastic to hear he is feeling great. Back to fighting for Medicare for All with Warren.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:40 PM
Oct 2019

Go Bernie.

Thanks for posting the great news!

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George II

(67,782 posts)
14. "Thanks for posting the great news!"??? Sid posted that he had a heart attack. That's good news?
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:47 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
15. He is feeling great, I believe that is the obvious point of the information.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:49 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
17. That's what they're saying, but no one is "great" less than three days after a heart attack.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:50 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
18. According to you. I believe Bernie.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:51 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
19. Whatever. I believe cardiologists.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:53 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
20. Keep persisting he is not feeling great. It makes you happy, go for it.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:55 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. Feeling 'great' is not the same thing as being healthy...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:52 AM
Oct 2019
Keep persisting he is not feeling great. It makes you happy, go for it.
Feeling 'great' is not the same thing as being healthy. Fact of the matter is, Bernie has heart disease. The fact that he survived this episode does not mean that his cardiovascular issues have been "cured" or "healed".

It's a deadly mistake for people to think that they can "get over" coronary disease the same way that one gets-over the flu. He may be "feeling great" but he's not "all better".

But, as you pointed out... if it "makes you happy" to believe incorrect information... then by all means "go for it".
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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
24. At first they were insisting he hadn't had a heart attack. So this isn't great news. n/t
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:45 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. Why wouldn't they be forthcoming and honest from the very beginning?
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:10 AM
Oct 2019
At first they were insisting he hadn't had a heart attack.
Why wouldn't they be forthcoming and honest from the very beginning? The BS campaign was reporting "no heart attack" as if it were fact, but it wasn't. Why didn't they just say "too early to tell" or "we don't know yet" or words to that effect?

Now that the precedent has been set... now that we know what to expect... (and now that we know the TRUTH is TOTALLY OPPOSITE from what they told us) I'm afraid that I will now (and forever more) have a VERY DIFFICULT TIME in being able to trust any news at all that comes from them.

All I'm saying is... they should have been honest, direct, transparent and forthcoming FROM THE VERY BEGINNING... but they weren't. And that's a shame. The BS campaign has totally lost my trust on this matter. I can't believe anything they say when it comes to this subject.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
29. I don't understand why they thought it was a good idea to wait three days to announce this
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:37 AM
Oct 2019

when surely they must have known the blood test results fairly quickly. They're not going to put VP Biden's test at the back of the line.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
30. I guess they were totally unprepared....
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:58 AM
Oct 2019
I don't understand why they thought it was a good idea to wait three days to announce this
I guess they were totally unprepared... but all things considered, you'd think that SOMEONE would have considered the possibility. After the "slip" and fall incident at the hotel (which, at this point, it's clear to everyone that it was likely a cardiovascular episode as well) they should have made some decisions that would have ensured openness, honesty and transparency. But they didn't. So that's VERY POOR PLANNING on their part. I give them a grade of F.

So... there they are, caught totally flat-footed and unprepared. Now it's crunch-time... a decision MUST BE MADE, and it MUST BE MADE QUICKLY. And, in this regard, they fail as well. They had the opportunity to be open and honest and transparent... yet they chose to deliberately obfuscate. Rather than saying "we don't know" or "it's too early to tell" ... the answers and information we were given was NOT the truth.

And at THAT point, they already had OVER TWENTY FOUR HOURS to come up with something... and THAT is the story they decided to run with?? Knowing full-well that the full truth would eventually come out anyway, they chose THAT path? (Amazing.)

I can only repeat what I wrote earlier: Now that the precedent has been set... now that we know what to expect... (and now that we know the TRUTH is TOTALLY OPPOSITE from what they told us) I'm afraid that I will now (and forever more) have a VERY DIFFICULT TIME in being able to trust any news at all that comes from them.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
32. Well, not for you.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:10 AM
Oct 2019

Bernie is doing great, thank goodness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
28. Goodness. I hope he's feeling better.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:34 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
31. From the Texas Heart Institute:
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 07:58 AM
Oct 2019

“Most patients stay in the hospital for about a week or less. Upon returning home, you will need rest and relaxation. A return to all of your normal activities, including work, may take a few weeks to 2 or 3 months, depending on your condition. A full recovery is defined as a return to normal activities.”

Imo, he needs to at the minimum...go home, lay low, rest for a few weeks, gradually get himself back to ‘normal’.
This is nothing to be messed with, and at his age, prudence is required.

Campaign? NO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
33. Excellent information and advice. Thanks for sharing that...
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:21 AM
Oct 2019

Excellent information and advice. Thanks for sharing that... I agree with the doctors' recommendations. Indeed, two or three MONTHS is what I'd recommend to a loved one of mine who was his age.

Campaign? NO.
I agree. It remains to be seen if BS thinks he knows more than his doctors do... and whether or not he chooses to ignores their advice.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
34. Sadly, there are a lot of people who wished Bernie died.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:48 AM
Oct 2019


Fight the good fight, Bernie. And another $27 for you from me.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
40. Yeah, that or fake sympathy... not unexpected.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:41 AM
Oct 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

lapucelle

(18,278 posts)
37. Has campaign surrogate DrDooleyMD weighed in on her candidate's heart attack?
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 08:54 AM
Oct 2019

Surrogate DrDooleyMD (notorious for her #NeverHillary and #HillaryForPrison posts during the 2016 general election campaign, as well as for her embarrassingly unprofessional long distance "diagnoses" of the Democrat) did her best to help elect Trump by stoking HRC "health crisis" conspiracy theories in September - October 2016.



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If I were to vote in a presidential
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brush

(53,792 posts)
38. It's decision time. It's 13 months before the election and then 4 more years to serve if he wins.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:16 AM
Oct 2019

Does anyone think there won't be another incident in all that time, considering he also had the fainting in the shower incident before this heart attack, which apparently was an earlier heart incident?

It's time to face the music and do the right thing for his health and the party. Campaigning for president with all the travel and multiple events a day is physically taxing for even those with no heart incidents.

Getting right back on the campaign trail is not wise for someone who just had a heart attack, and taking a month or two or three to rest, which is probably the best thing to do, will just about kill his campaign so Bernie heeds to make a tough but necessary decision.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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