Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Had Heart Attack, His Doctors Say, as He Leaves Hospital
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/bernie-sanders-hospital.htmlAfter two and a half days in the hospital, I feel great, and after taking a short time off, I look forward to getting back to work, Mr. Sanders said in a statement.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Good for him!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Media will be on a roll with this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)he's not healthy enough to run for President.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I hope that his doctors and Jane agree with me as well.
This isn't like getting over the flu.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)This was not a minor incident or, as some here described it, an "out patient procedure".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And everyone told me I was making-shit-up. From the very beginning, I knew this wasn't some simple "outpatient procedure". I knew something was up when he had that dizzy spell and fell in the hotel shower, busting his head open and needing stitches. There's a reason why they call coronary artery disease "the silent killer" (along with high blood pressure too... and the risk of strokes with no symptoms until it's too late... so keep an eye on your BP people!!!)
This is some serious and deadly business. Good to know that his doctors are taking it seriously... but it's a pity that his campaign was so cagey and stingy with the information that people deserved to know.
I watched that video with his current wife Jane and she was totally out of her element. She was saying positive words... but subconsciously shaking her head in a negative side-to-side gesture as she was saying them. When she had run through all the rehearsed talking points, she started to repeat herself. It was uncomfortable to watch. I kinda felt sorry for her for a second.
I'm just saying that anyone who hopes to be our party's nominee has given up the privacy expectations that ordinary citizens expect... whether medical or financial. It just comes with the territory... get used to it.
Also, since they're ONLY JUST-NOW admitting to us that he had a HEART ATTACK... I'm convinced that this could possibly and very likely be the "watered down" version of what really happened. It's an honest question, and people deserve honest answers.
The American voters DESERVE to know if the candidate they are being asked to consider nominating is actually healthy enough and strong enough for the VERY STRESSFUL job of President of the United States and Leader of the Free World.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)I would rather see him live to enjoy the rest of his life. Campaigning is tough, do it but be careful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... trying being president! (It's amazing to see how much the office ages the office-holder. Even do-nothing Trump looks bad.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Did Trump ever look "good?" The man has been a pig his whole life!
I wish Senator Sanders good health but I think his age and now questionable health make his candidacy untenable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)One of my priorities in choosing a candidate is to make sure that he (or she) is someone who can fulfill EIGHT YEARS (two terms) in office. There's so much to do... I just can's see how I could (in good conscience) vote for anyone who -- statistically speaking -- isn't likely to even finish the first four years.
All I'm trying to say is, we need a strong and HEALTHY president who will be able to "hit the ground running" and who will be able to CONTINUE to sprint the entire marathon distance. That is the candidate who will get my vote.
Now I know that others may have different priorities and standards that aren't as strict as mine are... but I do not believe I'm being unfair or unreasonable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....fly to Vermont with all the pressure changes on an aircraft.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... whatever will be will be.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,334 posts)But I can't help but remember those on social media screaming that another candidate wasn't fit to assume office because she had a bout with pneumonia.
I question why the media didn't question Sen. Sanders condition the way they did the other candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Funny... because in this very forum, on this very day... there are entire threads and subthreads that are replete with complaints about how "unfair" the media has been to BS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
No speculation that Bernie has been hiding health issues for years, is lying about his health, has MS, wears a full body brace, wears diapers, has only months to live, has seizures during interviews, has a brain disfunction because of misspeaking once. No National Inquirer stories, WikiLeaks, InfoWars, Fox, questioning his mental and physical stamina. The media have been polite and respectful. How luxurious.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Go Bernie.
Thanks for posting the great news!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's a deadly mistake for people to think that they can "get over" coronary disease the same way that one gets-over the flu. He may be "feeling great" but he's not "all better".
But, as you pointed out... if it "makes you happy" to believe incorrect information... then by all means "go for it".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Now that the precedent has been set... now that we know what to expect... (and now that we know the TRUTH is TOTALLY OPPOSITE from what they told us) I'm afraid that I will now (and forever more) have a VERY DIFFICULT TIME in being able to trust any news at all that comes from them.
All I'm saying is... they should have been honest, direct, transparent and forthcoming FROM THE VERY BEGINNING... but they weren't. And that's a shame. The BS campaign has totally lost my trust on this matter. I can't believe anything they say when it comes to this subject.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)when surely they must have known the blood test results fairly quickly. They're not going to put VP Biden's test at the back of the line.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)So... there they are, caught totally flat-footed and unprepared. Now it's crunch-time... a decision MUST BE MADE, and it MUST BE MADE QUICKLY. And, in this regard, they fail as well. They had the opportunity to be open and honest and transparent... yet they chose to deliberately obfuscate. Rather than saying "we don't know" or "it's too early to tell" ... the answers and information we were given was NOT the truth.
And at THAT point, they already had OVER TWENTY FOUR HOURS to come up with something... and THAT is the story they decided to run with?? Knowing full-well that the full truth would eventually come out anyway, they chose THAT path? (Amazing.)
I can only repeat what I wrote earlier: Now that the precedent has been set... now that we know what to expect... (and now that we know the TRUTH is TOTALLY OPPOSITE from what they told us) I'm afraid that I will now (and forever more) have a VERY DIFFICULT TIME in being able to trust any news at all that comes from them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Bernie is doing great, thank goodness.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
apcalc
(4,465 posts)Most patients stay in the hospital for about a week or less. Upon returning home, you will need rest and relaxation. A return to all of your normal activities, including work, may take a few weeks to 2 or 3 months, depending on your condition. A full recovery is defined as a return to normal activities.
Imo, he needs to at the minimum...go home, lay low, rest for a few weeks, gradually get himself back to normal.
This is nothing to be messed with, and at his age, prudence is required.
Campaign? NO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Excellent information and advice. Thanks for sharing that... I agree with the doctors' recommendations. Indeed, two or three MONTHS is what I'd recommend to a loved one of mine who was his age.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)Fight the good fight, Bernie. And another $27 for you from me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,278 posts)Surrogate DrDooleyMD (notorious for her #NeverHillary and #HillaryForPrison posts during the 2016 general election campaign, as well as for her embarrassingly unprofessional long distance "diagnoses" of the Democrat) did her best to help elect Trump by stoking HRC "health crisis" conspiracy theories in September - October 2016.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,792 posts)Does anyone think there won't be another incident in all that time, considering he also had the fainting in the shower incident before this heart attack, which apparently was an earlier heart incident?
It's time to face the music and do the right thing for his health and the party. Campaigning for president with all the travel and multiple events a day is physically taxing for even those with no heart incidents.
Getting right back on the campaign trail is not wise for someone who just had a heart attack, and taking a month or two or three to rest, which is probably the best thing to do, will just about kill his campaign so Bernie heeds to make a tough but necessary decision.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden