Mf45 re-election strategy is to "Benghazi" Joe Biden.

[kimbutgar]

Last edited Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:46 AM - Edit history (1)

Like Benghazi, there was nothing really there that was a direct result of Hillary Clinton state department of being responsible for the incident while it was the department of defense that Dropped the ball. Now they are using the same negative strategy with this Ukraine made up nothing story. They are trying to plant in people’s minds who only minimally pay attention to politics that there is something and there is really nothing but a conspiracy theory made up by mf45 supporter.


Tuesday, I flew back from Europe with an Italian national and a woman from Pennsylvania. Near the end of the 8 hour flight she mentioned she didn’t like Hillary because of Benghazi. I guess the look on my face gave away my astonishment at her comment, she quickly said she didn’t want to talk politics.

But now we know even though the so-called “Ukraine scandal” is a big nothing burger a larger portion of the voting population will have the Ukraine negative story neurally implanted in their brains. Now we know and we must constantly repute this bs talking point every time we encounter someone.

[C_U_L8R]

1. The 'strategy' seems to have blown up in Trump's face.

He's a criminal but thank goodness he's such a dumbfuck.

[Still In Wisconsin]

6. I don't think it has. There are plenty of "undecided" numbskulls out there in swing states who are

now "not quite sure they trust Biden" or "apprehensive" about him. Sure, it's made Trump look even more like the stark raving a-hole he is but everyone has known for a long time who Trump is. They either like it or don't.

[pangaia]

15. It has not blown up one iota...

fascists will keep on this, without letup....

[UniteFightBack]

27. I agree, and these vocal numbnut defenders, I believe, are painting themselves into a corner. nt

[Newest Reality]

2. Well then, our secret plan is working great...

It is a good thing that they don't know that we all got together and decided that Biden would be a decoy that we knew that Trump would attack and spend a lot of time and resources on so that our main candidate could then get the nomination and proceed from there.

Two can play that game.

It is really going to be a laugh when Trump finds that out.

Score!!!!

[pangaia]

16. I had a call from the DNCC friday.. and you are right..

biden is like an aluminum foil decoy..for a sidewinder missile--

The DNCC has decided that Yui Yoshida and Malaise will be our candidates !! I forget which was to be Pres and which VP ??

[Newest Reality]

18. Of course...

Well, we have already said too much. New decoder app version coming out tomorrow, BTW.

Message:
Moot orange ukulele bidet ghoul. Red reflection scan trinity. Follow apprentice peach backwards mother.

[pangaia]

19. i'll download the app and reply....

until then..

Septiņas augsto tehnoloģiju Alfa klases zemūdenes - katra spēja sasniegt 45 mezglu ātrumu un 2400 pēdas dziļumu - faktiski bija zemākas, ja tas tiešām bija svarīgi. Viņu ātrums un izturība pret dziļumu radās uz trokšņainās iekšējās tehnikas rēķina, kas ļāva tos viegli atklāt… un iznīcināt.

[dchill]

26. You really shouldn't say "bidet ghoul" if you can't...

...back it up.

[stevil]

28. I like it

Forming a band and need a name.

[dchill]

29. Right? But do you go with "Bidet Ghoul"...

...or the retro style "The Bidet Ghouls?"

Heavy choice.

[beachbumbob]

3. Can't blackmail foreign govts for personal gain. Then lie lie lie lie lie

Nothing Bengazhi close here

[peggysue2]

4. Yes, you refute, and then focus on the real story

The corruption and betrayal of Donald Trump who would break every law to get what he wants. In broad daylight.

Donald Trump and his cohorts are a criminal enterprise.

Despicable Donnie. Lock him up!

[Tiggeroshii]

5. It will be difficult this time whenhe is getting exponentially watergated.

[SunSeeker]

7. And the media seems to be helping him do it. nt

[pangaia]

17. the 'media' for the most part is either ONLY about $$$ or are just plain stupid..

or both

[uponit7771]

8. K&R, At one time I was thinking this was all a rope a dope by Red Don's people but now Red Don's ...

... tilting into doing anything to break the law to get dirt on Biden then they must of seen some numbers that scared the crap out of them.

[OKNancy]

9. The Repubs are after Joe because of what his son did

Which I don't really get. I just heard one repeat that Hunter had no experience blah blah blah...
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Hunter on the Board? You don't have to know the gas business to be on the board if you are half way intelligent. Many Boards get people outside the field of the business.
It's not like Hunter is a dummy. He went to Georgetown and then got his law degree at Yale. He had business experience.
Also I read that he didn't get 50,000 every month, just some months.

[Hortensis]

20. They're after Joe because they're afraid of losing to him in the GE.

They could care less about Hunter himself. Or that there's an enormous difference between doing something that "doesn't look good" and actual corruption.

In that, they're very like those who adopt and push RW lies here, instead of being happily proud that our Democratic frontrunners are honest.

[mcar]

10. Swiftboating all over again

[loyalsister]

11. They'll use whatever they've got

We saw it work in '04 and '16. It is most effective there is a grain of truth to keep people talking and strenuously refuting over and over again. It is not dismissed by skeptics as long as the conversation continues. We need to keep in mind that it is skeptics and cynics who don't vote because they don't think it is a useful exercise. "The lesser of two evils," "they're all crooked in some way" "they never do anything to make a difference to me" and other cynical claims pick up speed with exactly this kind of controversy.

The voters who will defend this are the choir. The voters who will listen are already listening and ready to be persuaded. The voters who are cynical to begin with will tune out because "they're all crooked" and they don't want to worry or get frustrated over things they can't change.

GOTV is going to determine who wins this election and we can't afford a candidate whose associations with scandal discourage voters. Thankfully, we have candidates who do not have to offering competing explanations refutations and defenses in the context of the same scandal. The worst part is the most devoted supporters on either side see their candidate as a victim of the other. Whataboutism and bothsidesism is effective when you have competing groups making the same argument about the other and their own candidate.

[certainot]

12. the talk radio monopoly is the only medium capable of the unchallenged repetition needed to

establish this bullshit but dems don't even poll for it

[Texin]

13. What's he gonna do if Biden isn't the nominee?

What tack will he take with another opponent. I guess it'd be a similar strategy.

[Texin]

14. I don't understand why Hunter Biden isn't suing tRump for slander and defamation of character.

If I were Joe, I'd be encouraging him to doing that, and screw the election.

[Iggo]

21. Step back and look at who the Ukraine fiasco hurts more, Trump or Biden.

Hint: Only one of them is being impeached.

[kimbutgar]

22. I agree I am just contrasting it the the technique the repukes used that are tried And true

Like swiftboating.

But I am delighted it is backfiring and hurting MF45.

[Iggo]

23. Ah, I see.

I've just spent a very long week telling people to just breathe, is all.

[Gothmog]

24. @JoeBiden 's favorability and standing in the primary has been stable nationwide.

Link to tweet

[DownriverDem]

25. I wish folks

understood and supported him.

[ramen]

30. They have no strategy

They just collide from one set of poorly considered, unimaginatively corrupt blunders to the next.

[Nitram]

31. Fits their MO to a "T".