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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:27 PM Oct 2019

What happens if a party's nominee dies before election day?

Do the rules vary between the parties? Does the VP choice run instead? Does the party have to meet and make an alternate choice? Does the deceased nominee remain on the ballot... and if he (or she) wins, the VP choice takes the oath of office?

What a mess that would be! I just can't imagine!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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What happens if a party's nominee dies before election day? (Original Post) NurseJackie Oct 2019 OP
The V.P. nominee runs. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2019 #1
The deceased candidate's party picks a replacement (who may or may not be the VP candidate)* grossproffit Oct 2019 #7
This. customerserviceguy Oct 2019 #21
You're correct. I was mistaken. ColesCountyDem Oct 2019 #22
Fair question. I'd like to know as well. nt ecstatic Oct 2019 #2
The party selects the replacement. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #3
They draw names out of a hat left-of-center2012 Oct 2019 #4
I assumed wrong. The party picks the replacement. grossproffit Oct 2019 #5
If before the election the party picks a new nominee Hokie Oct 2019 #6
Thanks everyone! NurseJackie Oct 2019 #8
Excellent question, NJ! grossproffit Oct 2019 #9
I offer this after searching: party election candidate dies Lucid Dreamer Oct 2019 #10
Great link! Thank you... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #11
a deeper question qazplm135 Oct 2019 #12
I hope it never comes to that. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #14
Interesting question and I appreciate the answers. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #13
I don't think he'll live long enough to be the nominee The King of Prussia Oct 2019 #15
Yes I did... amazing. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #16
I know in California state and local elections Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #17
This is what I am afraid of about BS PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #18
What a nightmare that would be. cwydro Oct 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #20
 

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
7. The deceased candidate's party picks a replacement (who may or may not be the VP candidate)*
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:37 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
21. This.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:45 PM
Oct 2019

The only time in my lifetime that we've seen a replacement procedure is when George McGovern's choice of Thomas Eagleton as VP was substituted for Sargent Shriver. A committee did the replacement without having to have the entire delegation reconvene.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
22. You're correct. I was mistaken.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 08:46 AM
Oct 2019

I was thinking about what happens after Election Day, but before Inauguration Day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
2. Fair question. I'd like to know as well. nt
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:33 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,743 posts)
3. The party selects the replacement.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:34 PM
Oct 2019
If a candidate dies before the general election but after they've secured the nomination, it's a relatively simple fix: The deceased candidate's party picks a replacement (who may or may not be the vice presidential candidate from the former ticket), and that replacement is on the ballot for Election Day.
https://people.howstuffworks.com/what-happens-presidential-candidate-dies.htm
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
5. I assumed wrong. The party picks the replacement.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:35 PM
Oct 2019

Fascinating question and one very worthy of a discussion.

https://people.howstuffworks.com/what-happens-presidential-candidate-dies.htm

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hokie

(4,288 posts)
6. If before the election the party picks a new nominee
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:35 PM
Oct 2019

It might or might not be the vice presidential candidate. The new candidate is chosen by the party committee. If the president elect dies after winning the election then the vice president elect becomes the president elect.

I don't think a candidate of a major party has ever died during the campaign but in 1972 George McGovern's running mate Sen. Thomas Eagleton stepped down after reports surfaced he had received electroshock therapy for clinical depression in the 60's. The Democratic National Committee met and chose Sargent Shriver to replace Eagleton.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
10. I offer this after searching: party election candidate dies
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:41 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_pvp.html

Constitutional Topic: Death of a Presidential Candidate


The Constitutional Topics pages at the USConstitution.net site are presented to delve deeper into topics than can be provided on the Glossary Page or in the FAQ pages. This Topic Page concerns the how the Constitution handles the death of a presidential candidate. This topic is handled in Article 2, Section 1, the 12th Amendment, and the 20th Amendment. The Topic Pages for Presidential Disability and the Electoral College are also of interest.

As morbid as it seems, one of the most common questions to be asked of this site is what happens if a presidential candidate dies? Though it does seem morbid, it is an important question. One of the most important features of a successful democracy is peaceful transition of power. By anticipating unfortunate but possible circumstances, the Constitution and U.S. law tries to ensure that the most powerful position in American politics has a contingency plan.

The answer is a complicated one, but very definitely defined - there are, in other words, bookends for the question. One bookend is the inauguration of the president and the vice president. Once the president-elect and the vice president-elect are sworn in, the line of succession kicks in.
Before the election
The other bookend is less solid - it is the election itself. When voters cast their votes in November, they are not actually casting votes for a specific person. Instead, they are casting votes for electors, persons chosen by the candidates' parties to attend a gathering of all electors in each state capital, where they cast the votes that officially elect a president.
If a presidential candidate dies after the party convention and before the election, particularly before ballots are printed, the party can select a new person to represent the party on the ticket. The choice will depend on the party's own rules. As the election nears, the situation gets more sticky, because elections take time to plan.
...


Much more follows at site.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. Great link! Thank you...
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:41 PM
Oct 2019

... for the reply and info.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
12. a deeper question
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:45 PM
Oct 2019

a presidential candidates dies weeks before the election.

Each state has different rules about names on ballots, and suffice to say a lot of them may not be able to change names particularly if they aren't using electronic voting (although I suspect most states could find a way to change them).

I can also guess some states run by Republicans would try and NOT change the ballot if it's the Democratic candidate who dies.

So what happens then? Write-in? Court filings? It could easily become a mess in a handful of states.

The fact that we localize federal elections for President is one of the stupidest things we do as a nation.

It's one thing to do it for the House or Senate, but the Presidential election should have one national standard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. I hope it never comes to that.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:54 PM
Oct 2019

But it's certainly something for voters to consider whenever they're deciding which candidate to vote for in the primary. I guess this is why seeing a candidate's medical physicals are just as important as seeing a candidate's tax returns.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
13. Interesting question and I appreciate the answers. NT
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 04:49 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
15. I don't think he'll live long enough to be the nominee
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:04 PM
Oct 2019

He's dying before our eyes - did you see that nonsense with the President of Finland?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
17. I know in California state and local elections
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:41 PM
Oct 2019

if a candidate dies after ballots are printed and can't be changed before election day, If the dead person wins then a new election takes place as soon as possible. I once lived in a county where that happened with the Sheriff. His campaign told every one to still vote for him because the other guy was some low-life private investigator that normally had no chance or winning. He was only running against the incumbent Sheriff because he refused to give the PI a concealed carry permit.

The found another candidate and he won the special election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
18. This is what I am afraid of about BS
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:56 PM
Oct 2019

God forbid should he become a nominee that is.

Hopefully, he will make a wise decision for him and his family and drop out of the race pronto.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. What a nightmare that would be.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 05:57 PM
Oct 2019

Great question though!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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