Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumVox - Sanders's top staffers are making a pointed case against Warren
Bernie has no problem attacking Democrats. With Elizabeth Warren, he is simply taking her proposals and doubling them and presenting them as his own like he did with the wealth tax, then creating an artificial progressive test where anyone who is not Bernie is not a progressive. I wonder whether Bernie's test will address immigration, gun control, or Russia?
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/24/20879833/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-2020-campaign
Sanderss team has identified a series of progressive policy litmus tests around housing, climate, and education policy to cast Sanders as the true candidate for the left and convince voters, including 2016 supporters who might have started to consider Warren as another option. And some prominent Sanders staffers like Gray and senior adviser Warren Gunnels, have taken to social media to highlight the differences between the two senators. Over the weekend, Sanders, himself, held a 4,000-person rally in Warrens hometown of Norman, Oklahoma, with the message that he could win.
Warrens staff isnt throwing the same punches (her campaign declined to comment for this story). And Sanderss team says this isnt part of its explicit strategy.
While elites and political pundits are busy obsessing over tweets, our campaign is building a movement to lift up working class Americans and transform our economy so it works for all of us, Sanders campaign spokesperson Mike Casca told Vox in an emailed statement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...on Warren in recent days.
It was Biden a week or two ago, but seems the strategy has shifted with the recent poll results.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)of BS and on the rise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)capacity? I think it will backfire and alienate his remaining sane supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It's well documented that he's a micro manager. He knows and approves. Or he'd stop it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Our candidates are strong and can run on their own merits, we don't need to have one bashing the others. This is feeling more and more like 2016 all the time. We can't come out of the primaries all bloody and weak.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)His staff does what he wants, and he hired attack dogs to follow orders in the style he wishes.
As for like 2016 though , some state polls are showing him not breaking the 15% needed to get any delegates at all, and there's still plenty of time for his long decline to continue. A lot fewer people who voted for him out of spite against Hillary are interested in him this time.
Even worse for him, he'd have to have 300 to put his name in nomination, so it's possible he could be shut out of contention altogether. As a superdelegate, he can sit and watch of course, but his remnant "lock her up" types would have to do their acting out in the streets with the trumpsters.
Something to shoot for, but for sure his 2016 record is biting him in the ass big time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Any way you look at it, it's divisive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)No one forced them to hire themselves out as attack dogs. Most people regard that behavior with great contempt, and it'll be interesting to see who hires them next.
As for divisive, sure, but you know he's what he's always been. More people know what that is now, though, and reject it. Bless his heart.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...of being shut out of 15-20 states, which is going to be a major blow to his candidacy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Seriously, I avoid seeing him, but when I do he tends to sound tired and rote, "anyway, the Democrats do it too...", going through the motions on the way to whatever he plans for this convention. Hopefully, he'll get some rest there instead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is coming to pass.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,598 posts)Which means if I lose, I'll bring everyone else down with me."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)Oooh, thatll leave a mark.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)dwindling cadre of supporters but few others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)He was playing complacent with thinking if they both join forces and jump on Biden, then Bernie becomes #1.
Instead Biden has held and Warren's campaigning has seen her surge. She is promoting what she is for, not who she is against.
Bernie has been left behind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Voters are on to such tactics since 2016 and Democrats know that they imperil their nominee with such behavior.
I applaud Sen Warren, Joe Biden and Beto O'Rourke who have led a 100% positive campaign with no attacks on fellow Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)This has been Bernie's consistent MO. While other candidates have pulled their punches, Bernie's campaign has been trying to knee cap other candidates from the get go.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016
The main line of attack against O'Rourke is that he isn't progressive enough that he's been too close to Republicans in Congress, too close to corporate donors and not willing enough to use his star power to help fellow Democrats and it is being pushed almost exclusively by Sanders supporters online and in print.
It's been the first flashpoint in what promises to be a politically bloody primary one that has drawn responses from foot soldiers in the Obama and Clinton wings of the party as Democrats begin to focus on who has the best chance to deny President Donald Trump a second term in the Oval Office.
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The biggest difference may be that O'Rourke is now a threat to Sanders in the 2020 primary. Though neither man has announced whether he will run, O'Rourke captured the hearts and dollars of veteran Democratic activists, donors of all ages and millennial political newcomers across Texas and the nation in his Senate run.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,598 posts)While insisting he was the first one to talk about such issues because Democrats are the same as Republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden