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demmiblue

(36,879 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:14 AM Sep 2019

Warren Goes After Trump's Sister in Anti-Corruption Push

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is adding some new proposals to her anti-corruption plan, this time with one particularly provocative target: President Trump’s sister.

In a Medium post published Monday, the Massachusetts Democrat proposes closing the loophole that “allows federal judges to escape investigations for misconduct by stepping down from their post.”

In outlining the idea, Warren specifically references a case involving Trump’s sister Maryanne Trump-Barry, whose retirement brought an abrupt end to an investigation into her role in various tax schemes of the family and potential fraud therein.

“Under my plan, investigations will remain open until their findings are made public and any penalties for misconduct are issued,” Warren writes in the post.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maryanne-trump-barry-elizabeth-warren-goes-after-president-trumps-sister-as-part-of-anti-corruption-plan


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Warren Goes After Trump's Sister in Anti-Corruption Push (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2019 OP
This I like very much BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #1
i love this JI7 Sep 2019 #2
No one is above the law Danascot Sep 2019 #3
So the Trump's are born as grifters? usaf-vet Sep 2019 #4
Drumpf family values: they ALL got rich off the various grifts. Only the one brother... Hekate Sep 2019 #21
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Sep 2019 #5
I like it. But I worry the name-check Blue_playwright Sep 2019 #6
There's no statute of limitations on judicial ethics investigations BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #9
Yes she was helping her father with rulings FakeNoose Sep 2019 #14
I wish that was true Larrybanal Sep 2019 #10
Maryanne Trump-Barry was a federal judge. Not like it's Barron or something. NYC Liberal Sep 2019 #13
Great! Now do this for Congress- like Jason Chaffetz sharedvalues Sep 2019 #7
Not a great idea treestar Sep 2019 #8
tax evasion and fraud are criminal acts ProfessorPlum Sep 2019 #24
I doubt the authorities would blatantly treestar Sep 2019 #30
Sure there is quakerboy Sep 2019 #27
Yes, please, and make it retroactive Perseus Sep 2019 #11
Nothing will happen DownriverDem Sep 2019 #12
Warren would be a great VP, she has a plan for everything IronLionZion Sep 2019 #17
To heck with that. She'd make a great president quakerboy Sep 2019 #28
Biden gave up his Senate seat to be VP. Was that wasted? IronLionZion Sep 2019 #29
The entire family is nothing but a pack of gangsters. olegramps Sep 2019 #15
Of course she had to recuse herself from cases involving her crooked brother IronLionZion Sep 2019 #16
Trump & Co. Have Shown Us How Many Loopholes Need Closing dlk Sep 2019 #18
Had no idea this was even possible. Ligyron Sep 2019 #19
Investigations should continue when a crime is involved. LiberalFighter Sep 2019 #20
No Matter Who Becomes Our Nominee, This Is AWESOME! corbettkroehler Sep 2019 #22
Warren is kicking ass. SMC22307 Sep 2019 #23
Oh, wouldn't it be sweet if Trump's sister, the judge, was indicted for helping The Family commit Nitram Sep 2019 #25
Aye the era of sweeping things under the carpet because x is now out of office needs to end as cstanleytech Sep 2019 #26
 

BeyondGeography

(39,379 posts)
1. This I like very much
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:23 AM
Sep 2019

She was part of a $550 million tax evasion scheme after all.

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Danascot

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3. No one is above the law
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:35 AM
Sep 2019

No exceptions.

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usaf-vet

(6,205 posts)
4. So the Trump's are born as grifters?
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:44 AM
Sep 2019

I'm not surprised that it seems to be the case.

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Hekate

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21. Drumpf family values: they ALL got rich off the various grifts. Only the one brother...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:54 PM
Sep 2019

...missed out, as he somehow failed the family expectations and died, and his family was tossed aside to fend for themselves with a sick kid.

But oh yes indeed, the judge was not exempt from raking in the family's ill-gotten gains, and she knew where it came from.

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Blue_playwright

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6. I like it. But I worry the name-check
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:54 AM
Sep 2019

Will have a negative impact on her. Folks perceive family as off-limits to an extent. We just haven’t acclimated to having a family of criminals and grifters in the White House.

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BeyondGeography

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9. There's no statute of limitations on judicial ethics investigations
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:16 AM
Sep 2019

but retired judges aren’t subjected to conduct rules which is why she quit. It’s a bogus loophole and closing it is easily defended. While she was sitting in judgment of other people she was helping her father rip off the government and thousands of tenants whose rents were increased based on the inflated costs of building improvements that were funneled to her shell company.

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FakeNoose

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14. Yes she was helping her father with rulings
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 09:23 AM
Sep 2019

... in which she and her siblings also directly benefited. I don't see how she should be shielded from that behavior. After all she was on the judicial bench for over 20 years, I believe.

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Larrybanal

(227 posts)
10. I wish that was true
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:19 AM
Sep 2019

america has become far too acclimated to having criminals and grifters in the white house and doing whatever they want

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NYC Liberal

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13. Maryanne Trump-Barry was a federal judge. Not like it's Barron or something.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 09:12 AM
Sep 2019
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sharedvalues

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7. Great! Now do this for Congress- like Jason Chaffetz
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:02 AM
Sep 2019

Too many Republicans have dodged Congressional ethics inquiries by stepping down.

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treestar

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8. Not a great idea
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:15 AM
Sep 2019

If she committed criminal acts, she would still be investigated. If she stepped down, there's no reason to investigate for the reason of firing her. The relatives do their own thing. I wouldn't doubt she's as deplorable as most Trumps are, but that type of thing can easily be done to us too.

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ProfessorPlum

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24. tax evasion and fraud are criminal acts
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:30 PM
Sep 2019

The judge may have committed criminal acts, but apparently she will NOT still be investigated. She avoided it by stepping down.

so - your assumptions may be wrong, and Warren is proposing to change things so that they are what you would expect.

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treestar

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30. I doubt the authorities would blatantly
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 08:59 AM
Sep 2019

ignore criminal conduct just because she stepped down. Maybe if it were some sort of plea deal, but who could she turn on? OTOH, they are Trumps, and the authorities under her Dotardess' brother, so it is not impossible.

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quakerboy

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27. Sure there is
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:02 AM
Sep 2019

Pensions, retirement benefits, and future employment opportunities all are connected with how you leave a position. Just ask McCabe whether it matters.

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Perseus

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11. Yes, please, and make it retroactive
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:30 AM
Sep 2019

There is no logic in that loophole, needs to go away, and if investigations from the past where judges took advantage of it can be re-opened, the better.

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DownriverDem

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12. Nothing will happen
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:39 AM
Sep 2019

Ever notice how repubs can say and do anything and they get away with it? My focus is on beating trump and to get a strong, progressive, Dem woman to run as VP.

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IronLionZion

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17. Warren would be a great VP, she has a plan for everything
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:23 AM
Sep 2019

and would be one Dem who might actually investigate crooked Republicans and bring them to justice. Harris too.

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quakerboy

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28. To heck with that. She'd make a great president
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 12:04 AM
Sep 2019

She'd be wasted as a VP, in my opinion. She'd have a stronger voice and more impact staying in the senate at that point.

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IronLionZion

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29. Biden gave up his Senate seat to be VP. Was that wasted?
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 07:49 AM
Sep 2019

Our top candidates are current senators except for Biden. And all from blue states where Dems could win the special election to replace them.

There are reasons why I would prefer a legislator to be VP and a governor or someone with executive experience to be president, but we don't have that so I'm supporting Warren for president because I like her plans and policies.

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olegramps

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15. The entire family is nothing but a pack of gangsters.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 09:44 AM
Sep 2019
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IronLionZion

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16. Of course she had to recuse herself from cases involving her crooked brother
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:21 AM
Sep 2019

who just coincidentally is closely associated with a lot of criminals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry

In 1985, she recused herself in a drug-trafficking case due to her brother Donald's relationship with the alleged trafficker.


Anyone named Trump would be involved in tax evasion and other crimes. They're one very shady family.
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dlk

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18. Trump & Co. Have Shown Us How Many Loopholes Need Closing
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 10:35 AM
Sep 2019

We are experiencing unprecedented corruption and it will require Dems in the White House and in the majority both houses of Congress before this travesty can be adequately addressed. Kudos to Warren for calling out the rapacious Trump crime family and having an actual plan to address it. They have been receiving a pass on their many crimes for far too long.

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Ligyron

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19. Had no idea this was even possible.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:16 PM
Sep 2019

One law for the little people an exemption for the rich.

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LiberalFighter

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20. Investigations should continue when a crime is involved.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 05:45 PM
Sep 2019

Why should a judge get off just because they step down?

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corbettkroehler

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22. No Matter Who Becomes Our Nominee, This Is AWESOME!
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 06:34 PM
Sep 2019

Go, Senator, go!

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SMC22307

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23. Warren is kicking ass.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:25 PM
Sep 2019

*This* close to switching from Undecided to Warren.

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Nitram

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25. Oh, wouldn't it be sweet if Trump's sister, the judge, was indicted for helping The Family commit
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 09:54 PM
Sep 2019

fraud!!!!! Whether or not she becomes President, I hope Warren pursues this.

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cstanleytech

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26. Aye the era of sweeping things under the carpet because x is now out of office needs to end as
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 11:19 PM
Sep 2019

all it does is encourage bad behavior.

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