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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:06 PM Sep 2019

Pocahontas? Trump and His "Swedish" Dad Made Hundreds of Millions Lying to Holocaust Survivors

After WWII, Holocaust survivors and their relatives in Brooklyn and Queens were understandably unwilling to rent from a German.

Fred Trump had a simple solution: lie to them and don't stop lying to them.

After making his fortune providing accommodations in the red light districts of the Yukon territory, Trump's grandfather desperately wanted to return to Germany. Despite calling himself and his wife "loyal Germans and stand behind the high kaiser and the mighty German Reich," he was denied a return for dodging the draft before he made his fortune.

But that history disappeared - suddenly Friedrich Trump was "Swedish." With this lie in place, Fred Trump made his fortune by lying to Holocaust survivors in NYC for decades, violating their trust about something that reached the most profound life and death issue of their history.

Donald Trump maintained this lie even though family historians show that he was well aware of the falsehood. At his death, Fred Trump had a net worth of roughly $250-300 million dollars from his real estate empire, made mostly from renting to New York Jews - notably he forbid his agents to rent to African-Americans (Woody Guthrie, a one time tenant wrote two songs about racist "Old Man Trump" ). In 1927, Fred Trump, was arrested in Queens during a memorial day Klan rally. The apple doesn't fall far.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump received at least $413 million from his father over the decades, according to the New York Times (hardly the $1 million Trump claimed). As a salaried "landlord" for his father, Trump was a millionaire by the time he was 8 years old.

Not only did Donald Trump repeat the lucrative "Swedish" lie, he wrote about it in The Art of the Deal (his grandfather "came here from Sweden as a child" ) and somehow even Fred Trump's obituary in the New York Post maintained the deception of local Jews ("The elder Trump, son of a Swedish immigrant father, died Friday at 93 after being hospitalized with pneumonia." ).

Conversely, Elizabeth Warren actually believed her parents were telling the truth about the story of their elopement because of objections to her mother’s Cherokee heritage. Warren was tone deaf to the history of "bloodlines," but - unlike Trump - she never made a penny from her ancestry claims, let alone $413 million.

If you hear someone, on social media or in person, feel free to copy and paste this information or look up the full history for yourself. If someone brings up "Pocahontas" or some other "injun" joke like Trump has in the past, come back firing that she didn't become a millionaire by lying to Holocaust survivors for decades.

The "Pocahontas" joke has already grown tired, but Trump's lies about his own heritage - for massive profit - should put the issue to bed altogether. I've shut down numerous conservatives on social media this way already. In the end, Trump doesn't stand a chance against someone as dynamic and fiercely intelligent as Warren.

She's going to pulverize him time and time again - just imagine the two of them on the stage together!

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Pocahontas? Trump and His "Swedish" Dad Made Hundreds of Millions Lying to Holocaust Survivors (Original Post) DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 OP
KNR trof Sep 2019 #1
I'd bet money safeinOhio Sep 2019 #2
I've Had A Similar Notion - He Would Come Up With Some Lame Excuse For His Cowardice DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #3
Why wasn't this about Trump's heritage brought up in 2016? Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #4
Here's The NYTimes in 2016 DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #5
No. Blue_true Sep 2019 #6
 

safeinOhio

(32,714 posts)
2. I'd bet money
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:49 PM
Sep 2019

trump would not debate her.

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
3. I've Had A Similar Notion - He Would Come Up With Some Lame Excuse For His Cowardice
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:06 PM
Sep 2019

And Fox would gamely try to make it seem plausible.

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Otto Lidenbrock

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4. Why wasn't this about Trump's heritage brought up in 2016?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:13 PM
Sep 2019
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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
5. Here's The NYTimes in 2016
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:39 PM
Sep 2019

During his presidential campaign, Fred’s son Donald has occasionally run roughshod over Jewish sensibilities, notably with a post on Twitter that featured a six-pointed star and a pile of cash. But for many years, the Trumps went out of their way to avoid disquieting their Jewish friends and customers by burying their German identity.

They told anyone who asked that they were Swedish.

“He had thought, ‘Gee whiz, I’m not going to be able to sell these homes if there are all these Jewish people,’” said Donald J. Trump’s cousin John Walter, the Trump family historian, who has worked closely with Fred and Donald.

And once they started portraying themselves as Swedish, they could not stop.

“After the war, he’s still Swedish,” Mr. Walter said. “It was just going, going, going.”

Even Mr. Trump, not known to be shy about embellishing facts, questioned the need. According to Mr. Walter, when Mr. Trump was working on his best seller “The Art of the Deal” in the mid-1980s, he asked his father, “Do I have to do this Swedish thing?”

In the book, published in 1987, he wrote that his father’s story was “classic Horatio Alger,” and that his grandfather “came here from Sweden as a child.”

Mr. Trump has been called to account for the discrepancy in the past, sometimes admitting it, sometimes not. In an interview in his Trump Tower office, he at first claimed not to know that his father pretended to be Swedish, saying: “Is that true? I don’t know.”

He later acknowledged that the two of them would occasionally discuss the concealment of their heritage, explaining that his father “didn’t want to put any pressure” on his Jewish friends.

“It was a very tough time,” he said.

“We have a war, we are fighting a war with Germany,” said Mr. Trump, who was born a year after World War II ended.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/22/us/politics/for-donald-trumps-family-an-immigrants-tale-with-2-beginnings.html

What Trump meant by not wanting to "put any pressure" on Jews is that they would have serious moral reservations about renting from a German who was arrested for refusing to disperse at a Klan rally. Trump knew it was a lie, but kept repeating it because his father was a lifelong piggy bank.

In fact, the doctor who got him out of Vietnam as a "favor" was a Jewish tenant of Trump's father in Queens. Ironic, considering Trump's grandfather couldn't return to his German homeland because he dodged the draft.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/us/politics/trump-vietnam-draft-exemption.html

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. No.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:47 PM
Sep 2019

The issue of Trump lying about Swedish ancestry was not bought up. If his dad and him had acknowledged German ancestory, likely they would not have made as much money.

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