Biden: "I had more black support in South Carolina than anybody"

[crazytown]

Last edited Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:24 AM - Edit history (2)

Joe Biden took questions from black reporters for 90 minutes. He did not disappoint.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/27/biden-black-reporters-1476637

What about Kamala and Cory?

In poll after poll, black voters prefer Biden over anyone else. But why him over, say, Kamala Harris or Cory Booker, both of whom are African American?

Biden said he doesn’t know ... but he framed his lengthy record as both good news and bad news. “People know me, or at least they think they know me,” Biden said. “I think after all this time, they think they have a sense of what my character is and who I am — warts and all.”

He said it’s tough to explain why black voters prefer him in such high numbers over his opponents but noted he’s never felt uncomfortable being in a black community.

“By the way, that doesn’t mean it’ll stay that way,” he added. “You can go back and look: When Barack clobbered me in the campaign, you know, I more black support in South Carolina than anybody, including him. I got blown out in Iowa and all of a sudden everything changed. Same thing could happen.”

Public Policy Polling, August 13, 2007
Overall: HRC 36%, Obama 33%, Edwards 13%, Biden 3%
AA: Obama 55%, HRC 29&, Edwards 1%, Biden 0%
https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/PPP_SC_Release_081507.pdf

Pew Research, December 3, 2007




EDITED - to include electability table
https://www.people-press.org/2007/12/03/democratic-primary-preview-iowa-new-hampshire-south-carolina/

[Celerity]

2. interesting 2007 numbers

[Drunken Irishman]

4. Very interesting. Really shows the contrast between 2007 & 2019...

Thanks for posting this.

In 2007, Democrats were way more united under the idea of supporting who they felt were closer to their issues as a candidate (71%) over supporting a candidate because they were the most electable (only 24%).

Compare that to recent polls that show electability a top issue and it's no wonder Biden continues to be the clear front-runner and lesser known, and established candidates, like Beto and Mayor Pete, or even Harris, struggle to establish any national support. In 2007, Democrats weren't driven by the electability issue - they're being defined by it in 2020. Even more so than in 2004 against Bush!

Could indicate why this race is so much more different than 2007 and why those polls everyone keeps pushing are meaningless.

Pretty great insight. Wow.

[myohmy2]

5. okay...

"...When Barack clobbered me in the campaign, you know, I more black support in South Carolina than anybody, including him. I got blown out in Iowa and all of a sudden everything changed. Same thing could happen.” "

…+1

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

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[crazytown]

7. SC turned sharply in Obama's favor, after he won Iowa

SC turned sharply in Kerry's favor, after he won Iowa

[Demsrule86]

8. They were waitingto see if Pres. Obama would be able to win a primary...but liked him...this is

not the case with EW who is too far left for this constituency for the most part. Also, it is doubtful even if EW takes Iowa or New Hampshire that she can win a general...very little if any appeal in the rust belt states...we win by the electoral college...not direct vote...I am confident that EW can win the popular vote but not the electoral college regardless of Iowa...she has my support if I am wrong in the general, but I remain unconvinced she can win a primary much less a general.

[Kind of Blue]

6. Thanks for the reality check.

[NYMinute]

9. This is not 2007 and we are not running against a new GOP nominee

We are running against a sitting POTUS who is the most vile and racist POTUS since James Buchanan.

Apples - Oranges