Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumScorched Earth? "I don't think there's a limit on what (Tom Steyer) will do"
You underestimate my brother at your peril ... People like Gavin and Kamala, they were always afraid of Tom. Jim SteyerA Tom Steyer Debate Spot Is in Limbo. His Money Is Poised to Upend 2020 Anyway.
(snip) Most of the insiders, they dont have a clue how much money he can spend. They just dont, said Bill Carrick, a Democratic strategist who has seen Mr. Steyers spending up close in California, where Mr. Steyer has bankrolled ballot measures against the oil and tobacco industries.
(snip) One big unknown is whether Mr. Steyer will use his financial might to obliterate his opponents with negative ads. Those who have worked with Mr. Steyer describe him as a fiercely competitive man used to getting his way.
Hes been thinking about this for a long time, said Gil Duran, a former Steyer adviser. I dont think theres a limit on what hell do to try to reach this goal.
Mr. Steyer himself said he would not rule out negative ads, regardless of criticism he might face from the party. Look, theres something I really care about doing and Im going to try really hard to do it, he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/us/politics/tom-steyer-debate.html
We had to raze the village in order to save it. EDIT: Sarcasm, obviously -referencing the insanity of the Vietnam war.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)You know, like buy a couple of radio stations in the heartland & operate them at a loss if he has to. Hire some top notch writing talent & use humor to fight hate & misinformation of right wing hate radio. The dems are decades behind the 8-ball in framing the debate & capturing the narrative on every issue. When the only messages our rural neighbors hear are the lies & hate of Rush Limbaugh & his ilk, is anyone surprised when good ole boys show up wearing tee-shirts that read, "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat?" Ignoring hate radio is just stupid.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)than he could if president.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)most LWers to listen to honest talk radio enough to make it viable, while he'd have to pay people to hold guns on talk radio's RWers to get them to do it.
There're big reasons why fear-and-hostility radio draws so many more people than truth-and-nice-things radio. Just as there are reasons why the Republican Party has become intensely corrupted while the Democratic Party hasn't.
Reminds me: "And that was our segment on the bull moose of northern Maine." Delivered in a slow, mellow baritone, those are literally the first words on NPR that I ever noticed. I was a kid looking for disco music to drive to, and this weirdness so caught me I've never forgotten it. But, I became an NPR and disco listener, and years later thanks to electronics I'm able to listen to Pasadena's KPCC in northern Georgia.
But I'm liberal, born that way and will die that way. And if Steyer ever affected KPCC the way the Kochs have PBS, I'd find another station the minute I realized it -- on principle. As would RW talk radio audiences.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sacto95834
(393 posts)Hate sells. *sigh*
I found progressives do not really watch television programs or listen to radio like conservatives. We get our information differently. HOWEVER, I do think creative writing, satire and humor has it's place in the political arena. Look how John Stewart and the Daily Show seems to have charmed a generation of viewers/activists. Maybe that is his calling.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)I honestly believe that humor trumps fear. Fact filled programming that makes people laugh & think will get listeners. And they will tell a few friends & they will tell a few friends.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hlthe2b
(102,298 posts)that Trump has surely been for the Republicans. Obviously, any other comparison with Trump, or any other Republican is ridiculous.
Will he go after other candidates in the primaries, much the way Harris, Booker, and Swalwell tried to do with Biden, Gabbard tried to do with Harris, Castro tried to do against Beto, etc? Probably. I do hope he will restrain himself. Those attacks noted previously haven't exactly helped any of those candidates much either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)If the idea of a wealthy mogul running as an unbought outsider against a rigged system and the political establishment sounds familiar, that is no accident.
Mr. Trump had a point, Mr. Steyer said. I think thats why he got elected. Because the system is broken".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hlthe2b
(102,298 posts)and prioritize our opponents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)$123 million in the 2018 midterms. He's a solid Democrat.
Yeah, shame on him for deciding he has the same right as any other American to run for the office.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,398 posts)You can spend every nickel you have and it wont count for squat if people arent interested. And guess what? People arent interested.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)f the idea of a wealthy mogul running as an unbought outsider against a rigged system and the political establishment sounds familiar, that is no accident.
Mr. Trump had a point, Mr. Steyer said. I think thats why he got elected. Because the system is broken".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)Where are all the billionaires who say they're concerned for the environment eh Michael Bloomberg?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)Why would Brazil take their money? It's believed that they were started on purpose and supported by Bolsonaro.
https://www.leftvoice.org/the-fires-in-the-amazon-were-set-on-purpose
Scientists warn that this could be the tipping point for an ecosystem that plays a key role in reducing pollutant levels in the atmosphere. This lung of the world accounts for more than half of the worlds remaining rainforest.
Already in Brazil we are seeing the potentially catastrophic health impact of increased pollution induced by a mismanaged forest. Official data from the Ministry of Health show that deaths from cardiorespiratory problems have increased by 14% in the last 10 years, due to air pollution.
While Bolsanaro and his government blame nonprofits for staging the fires, its clear that Bolsanaros weakening of environmental policy is to blame. The Brazilian environmental agency has drastically cut penalties for breaking environmental laws, with statements that essentially provide carte blanche for loggers to do what they will. The mining and farming industries are enormous sources of revenue in Brazil and are rapidly expanding in previously protected areas.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)$22 million isn't exactly chump change.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)When you're trying to save a world
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)was chump change and a small amount. Maybe Bolsonaro doesn't want to save a world.
The G7 is an informal grouping comprised of the world's seven biggest economies. At the group's annual summit, in the French resort of Biarritz on Monday, Macron announced it was making $20 million in aid available to help combat the fires.
But Bolsonaro said the idea of creating an international alliance to save the Amazon would be treating Brazil like "a colony or no man's land," calling it an attack on the country's sovereignty.
Rebuffing the offer, Lorenzoni continued to criticize the French president. "Macron is unable to avoid a preventable fire in a church that is at a World Heritage Site and he wants to show us what is for our country? He has a lot to look after at home and the French colonies," Lorenzoni said, according to G1. He was referring to the Notre Dame Cathedral fire in April.
"Brazil is a democratic nation, free and never had colonial or imperialistic practices which might be (the) objective of Frenchman Macron," Lorenzoni added.
https://www.abc15.com/news/world/brazil-will-reject-20-million-of-amazon-fire-aid-from-g7
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Me.
(35,454 posts)one way or the other and always is with him and those like him
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tragic. PBO would certainly try to help/find a solution.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)On Steyer buying a couple of radio stations. He could hire Al Franken.
Can you name some others? Bill Press is good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)I miss him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)I would suggest Steyer buy a TV station.
Did you know Al has a podcast? I get an email every day. It starts with, Dear people, I know you love getting my email.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,986 posts) Al Franken podcast i tried for a link but they are different, according to your computer.
Walter Mondale on at 5 PM today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,109 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DBoon
(22,371 posts)that would have the most impact and would be chump change for him
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)I am sure he would like ideas.
Sure a big difference in Steyer and the Kochs !
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)I don't instantly write anyone off including a billionaire.
Now, I don't want another old white guy so he's out, but by all accounts and actions, he seems like a decent person from everything I've seen, and he has no chance at winning, so derision seems unwarranted to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,109 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)He's an old white guy
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,109 posts)It surprised me that Harris didn't run away with this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
I chose Harris but I was under no illusion that there was anything about her (or any other candidate) that would lead her or them to run away with this.
There are multiple qualified candidates with various bases of support.
This was always going to be a marathon.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,109 posts)about no more old white guys for the last few years.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)not enough people feel that way.
Too many are scared that only an old white guy can beat an old white guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,420 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
This country could use a woman President, whether it's a middle-aged black woman or an older white woman like Warren.
It's pretty fucking embarrassing that we still haven't had a woman President.
Apparently you disagree.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,398 posts)Hes barely registering at all. try to stay with reality based statements.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,109 posts)The top field are all in their 70's. He's younger than all of those three.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)No billionaire became one without stepping on someone on their way to great wealth. No thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)stepped on some folks along the way.
A cursory glance of the things he's funded is pretty impressive.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)I don't find him impressive at all, quite the contrary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)stepping into the race with the certainty of a billionaire's ego.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,317 posts)He was Mr. Impeachment for a while. Okay, lets impeach. But then why run? After Trump, why would we need him?
Buy the Amazon or something, Tom.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MBS
(9,688 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)... reported by AP correspondent Peter Barnett.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)in the campaign for the Democratic nomination. Nothing more. In Vietnam it became code for a counter productive (insane) strategy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)In the campaign, that *you* think will be necessary to "save the village?"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Q: What do I think is the best way to save the village. A: the unity pledge.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to crazytown (Original post)
Post removed
crazytown
(7,277 posts)using money to "obliterate [them] with negative ads."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided