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JI7

(89,252 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:09 AM Aug 2019

Tom Steyer says Warren and Sanders are the Establishment

says only he can take on trump becsuse he is a billionaire.

<Running as something of a patrician populist, Mr. Steyer brushed aside the dissonance of someone with his résumé — Exeter, Yale, Stanford, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, his own hedge fund — flooding the airwaves with ads that castigate the influence of “the powerful and well-connected.”

“I am the outsider in this race,” Mr. Steyer said in an interview. He described Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders as “part of the establishment” and asked if the front-runner in the polls, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., really understood what this moment called for.

“Virtually everybody else in this race, including those two senators, comes from D.C., is part of the establishment,” Mr. Steyer said. “So if you think the problem is broken government, which is what I think, if you think that the corporations have bought the government, who do you think is going to reform it? Do you think it’s going to be someone from the grass roots, from the outside, who’s done it for 10 years? Or do you think it’s going to be someone from D.C.? It’s a fair question.”

If the idea of a wealthy mogul running as an unbought outsider against a rigged system and the political establishment sounds familiar, that is no accident.

“Mr. Trump had a point,” Mr. Steyer said. “I think that’s why he got elected. Because the system is broken. It turns out he’s the biggest stooge there is.”His ads have also made an electability argument — that as a billionaire he has the standing to take on Mr. Trump on the economy.>


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/us/politics/tom-steyer-debate.amp.html


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George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Oh geeze, this "establishment" BS again. I guess the candidate that winds up with the nomination...
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:23 AM
Aug 2019

....is the one who is most convincing in his/her argument that all the others are "establishment"!

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Cha

(297,323 posts)
12. Let's hope Not. lol
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:47 PM
Aug 2019

That word has nothing to do with how important it is to have the best candidate for the job And to beat trumputin.

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ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
2. I think Steyer's argument will work with trump voters and
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:38 AM
Aug 2019

independents, but it won't get him through our primaries. First of all, attacking the 3 front runners is a losing strategy. Period. So hopefully this is a one and done critique of his rivals.

Second, EW is not the establishment--she's fairly new to the Senate.

Third, I've seen Steyer's new "billionaire" ads on TV. I like them because he's attacking trump, but to get through our primaries, he should have continued with the impeachment themed ads. After that, he could pivot to the billionaire strategy for the GE.

Then again, what do I know? His numbers are surging rather quickly. Maybe he's the blank slate candidate we can all agree on.

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BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
3. I'm already sick of the guy. Took about 5 minutes.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:20 AM
Aug 2019
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Autumn

(45,107 posts)
5. Should he take his money he donates to Democrats with him? Over $245 million in the
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:47 AM
Aug 2019

2014 to 2018 election cycles alone.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. Who Says He'll Donate That Amount This Time
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:00 AM
Aug 2019

if he isn't allowed in

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Autumn

(45,107 posts)
7. I think he will still continue to support Democrats. He's a decent man and a strong Democrat.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:03 AM
Aug 2019
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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. I like Tom Steyer too.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019

I hope he gets into the debates, although it is looking less and less likely.


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snowybirdie

(5,229 posts)
9. You don't win friends
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:19 AM
Aug 2019

And influence people by dissing their elected and popular leaders. This shows his hubris and over inflated sense of superiority. Likely, a trait highly developed in billionaires. We already have one of those running this country (badly). Tom, face reality and just donate your money to good causes.

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kcr

(15,317 posts)
10. Billionaire thinks Trump has a point.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 11:21 AM
Aug 2019

That's the shocker of the day.

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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
11. A Socialist Is The Establishment?
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:44 PM
Aug 2019

Give me a couple of dozen breaks!

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Cha

(297,323 posts)
13. I bet BS would disagree since he's always
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:50 PM
Aug 2019

calling everyone else the "establishment".

The word has lost all potency.

I actually want someone who doesn't throw that word around like it's poison.

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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
15. Oh Dear. LOL!...
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:23 PM
Aug 2019
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