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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:13 PM Aug 2019

In foreign policy.. there is no one more qualified running than VP Biden..

No one.. nada.. he has the experience.. he knows the people.. he has been in the rooms when giant decisions have come down from intervention to trade.. no one running is in a better position to pull us out of the sink hole Trump has put the United States in with its allies.. no one

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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In foreign policy.. there is no one more qualified running than VP Biden.. (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2019 OP
This is true mcar Aug 2019 #1
He may have been BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #2
Well Thank You BlueMTexpat saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #4
Warren has never expressed much interest and has no experience in this area. Neither emmaverybo Aug 2019 #5
thanks for the article saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #6
And I've been complaining about the endless days in the higher 80's here! Enjoy your visit! emmaverybo Aug 2019 #8
Going to be a VERY important asset The Genealogist Aug 2019 #3
Yes. Joe Would be the one to bring Iran back to the table. We are in a dangerous period. In emmaverybo Aug 2019 #7
I think Joe Biden's experience as Cha Aug 2019 #9
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
2. He may have been
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:38 PM
Aug 2019

"in the room" when giant decisions were made. But it is his foreign policy mistakes prior to his becoming President Obama's Veep that concern me, specifically his Iraq War vote. For someone who is supposed to have had foreign policy knowledge and skills, why did he buy Bush II's line so easily?

Hillary had much more of an excuse, IMO, especially as she was a junior Senator from NY and NYC was where the worst of 9-11 occurred. Yet she was still pilloried throughout her campaign for it. Why do the men always get off more easily?

You may wish to read the following and think a bit more about this. Why Biden’s long foreign policy record could be a liability
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-bidens-long-foreign-policy-record-could-be-a-liability

...
“You would think that Biden would be good or distinctive in this regard compared to the other candidates,” said Shadi Hamid, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and expert on U.S. policy in the Middle East. But “a long record isn’t [the same as] a good record, and I think that’s where it becomes complex.”
...
Critics argued that Biden’s reputation as a foreign policy expert with a record of accomplishment is overblown.

“His experience consisted of having voted for the Iraq War resolution, and generally being a fellow traveler of liberal interventionism. He hasn’t shown much original thought or initiative in foreign policy,” said Barnett Rubin, who served as a senior adviser to the special representative on Afghanistan and Pakistan under President Barack Obama.

Biden’s opponents may have less experience, Rubin added, but that doesn’t mean his rivals couldn’t tackle complex international issues. Rubin also questioned Biden’s premise that he could unite a deeply divided Congress around his foreign policy objectives. (emphasis mine)

“Biden comes from an era,” Rubin said, “of attempts at bipartisan national security policy, based on common threat perceptions” about enemies like the Soviet Union. But that Cold War mentality no longer applies, Rubin said. “The bipartisan consensus doesn’t exist.”
...


As a US expat primarily living in the Geneva area since 1994 and as a former employee of the US State Department and a former employee of international organizations such as the United Nations, I have seen firsthand the reactions and the consequences of foreign policy decisions in which Biden participated as a Senator.

This is one reason why I support another candidate - one who has shown herself willing to learn from past mistakes and address the problems of the world as it exists today.

IMO, that is what we need.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
4. Well Thank You BlueMTexpat
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

Excellent post highlighting Elizabeth Warren's abilities. She will make a great President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
5. Warren has never expressed much interest and has no experience in this area. Neither
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 03:01 PM
Aug 2019

did Obama, which is one of the reasons he picked Biden.

From “World leaders tell Biden: We need you”

Snip———————————————————
He’s been doing this for 30-plus years and even the best foreign policy hands end up being tutored by Joe Biden,” said one former foreign policy adviser to Biden who declined to speak on the record until that person’s former boss makes a decision about 2020. “We have a lot of candidates and unfortunately very few of them have any real depth or experience working in foreign policy issues.”

While several declared Democratic contenders have served on Senate committees with foreign policy or national security purviews — Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) on the Senate Armed Services Committee, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) on the Senate Intelligence Committee and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee — none are associated with major foreign policy achievements, and their campaign pitches focus less on issues like North Korea and Syria than on health care or the economy. Another candidate, Pete Buttigieg, a lieutenant in the U.S. Navy Reserve, is a veteran of the Afghanistan war.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was criticized early in the 2016 primary campaign for lacking foreign policy advisers and failing to focusing on global issues in his stump speeches. (Sanders did give an address on foreign policy last October.)

When Warren rolled out an economics-heavy foreign policy vision in a speech and long essay last year, some critics dismissed it as “not as much about foreign policy as it is about reorienting domestic policy.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/biden-2020-foreign-policy-national-security-1228345

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
6. thanks for the article
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 03:06 PM
Aug 2019

will read before commenting

Enjoy your day, I'm headed for some relaxation at my daughter's house and in her pool. It's a beautiful day in Phoenix, temps have dropped to the low 100's.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
8. And I've been complaining about the endless days in the higher 80's here! Enjoy your visit!
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 03:12 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
3. Going to be a VERY important asset
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 02:38 PM
Aug 2019

Someone is going to have to rebuild the shambles in which Trump has left our foreign policy and international reputation. Joe Biden is that person.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
7. Yes. Joe Would be the one to bring Iran back to the table. We are in a dangerous period. In
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 03:09 PM
Aug 2019

fact, experts believe the world a s closer to a first nuclear war than ever before in history.
Should one break out, the result would be climate catastrophe and mass famine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,323 posts)
9. I think Joe Biden's experience as
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 03:47 PM
Aug 2019

VP in President Obama's White House is invaluable experience in Foreign policy.

The world needs him!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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