Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumEric Boehlert says the NYT's coverage of Biden is reminiscent of their coverage of HRC in 2016
Thread starting here, a comment on the Times' story on Biden supposedly facing an "enthusiasm challenge" in Iowa.
Link to tweet
I have no idea who will win Iowa. but the notion that a newsroom would look at person leading in every Iowa poll and start writing abt their Iowa troubles is....odd
reminiscent of Hillary 2016 coverage
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,352 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(131,085 posts)of his Democratic rivals in hypothetical matchups against President Trump. He has maintained a lead in Iowa all summer, despite facing months of controversies over his record and his campaign missteps.
But less than two weeks before Labor Day, when presidential campaigns traditionally kick into high gear, there are signs of a disconnect between his relatively rosy poll numbers and excitement for his campaign on the ground here, in the state that begins the presidential nominating process.
In conversations with county chairs, party strategists and dozens of voters this week at Mr. Bidens events, many Democrats in Iowa described a case for Mr. Biden, the former vice president, that reflected shades of the one his wife, Jill Biden, bluntly sketched out on Monday. You may like another candidate better, but you have to look at who is going to win, she said, citing Mr. Bidens consistent lead in early surveys.
The first ad of Mr. Bidens campaign, released this week in Iowa, flashed some of his positive poll results against Mr. Trump on screen, and voter after voter cited those numbers in outlining their support for him, saying that defeating the president was their most urgent priority.
That stands in stark contrast to the way voters explain their support for candidates like Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, who drew 12,000 people to an event this week in Minnesota, Iowas northern neighbor, or Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who also draws large crowds and maintains a core base of die-hard fans.
They and others trail Mr. Biden in most polls and face plenty of their own skeptics, but they also have followings rooted in zealous support for their ideas rather than the political calculus that many voters describe in assessing Mr. Biden.
The former vice president certainly has devoted fans, in Iowa and around the country, and continues to enjoy good will and respect from Democratic voters.
But the risks of a campaign argument that is heavily reliant on strong poll numbers, which can be fickle in a tumultuous election, were on vivid display throughout Mr. Bidens trip to Iowa, as voters repeatedly emphasized that their support for him was closely linked to what they perceived as his strength against Mr. Trump.'>>>
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,614 posts)we have an ".. enthusiasm gap.. " from them.
Thank you, Eric Boehlert!
Mahalo, highplains !
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)The NYT digital offerings are down by 40% save cooking and travel. Do ya think they are getting the message??!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)pattern. They pulled the same shit on Al Gore in 2000 as well. And on Bill Clinton in 1992.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,372 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,497 posts)And you already know I am not at all a Sanders fangirl, but I can see the double standard being applied.
Cheers
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,193 posts)The media needs excitement, because they need eyeballs. Well, they think they need excitement.
This is how we end up with a guy like Trump in the White House.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)so mindlessly they do it again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden