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** NEW ** HarrisX Poll - Biden 30%, Sanders 17%, Warren 9%, Harris 6% (Original Post) Skya Rhen Aug 2019 OP
Interesting. Biden's gained several points over the last 5 days. That's probably highplainsdem Aug 2019 #1
That's a Rasmussen Poll NOT Harris GeorgeGist Aug 2019 #2
FiveThirtyEight says it's HarrisX. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Aug 2019 #6
Rasmussen Reports, which Scott Rasmussen sold years ago, is the pro-Trump poll. This is SR, highplainsdem Aug 2019 #5
Here -- see this from Harris X about their partnership: highplainsdem Aug 2019 #7
Good to know, thanks. ancianita Aug 2019 #11
This is about where things stood just before the first debate. ucrdem Aug 2019 #3
This is about where they've been all year, except for Biden getting a bump after his announcement, highplainsdem Aug 2019 #8
Oh that's right, back when Bernie was the frontrunner ucrdem Aug 2019 #10
If you look at the graph on the RCP page highplainsdem Aug 2019 #14
Yes he does. ucrdem Aug 2019 #21
Bernie was never the front runner. Even before Biden announced, there.. Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #27
I haven't seen the debate plunge in ANY of these polls. George II Aug 2019 #9
Re Elizabeth Warren - bunk crazytown Aug 2019 #12
the HarrisX poll is a poll of the "Harris Panel" bluewater Aug 2019 #16
Thanks. And that's why it is so unreliable, according to 538. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #18
The longer the polls continue to show similar results, unless there's some earth shifting "thing" Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #13
Here's 538 summation of all the polls. Warren's biggest problem is her inability to gain traction Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #15
So true! Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #17
HarrisX is a C+ poll according to 538. pnwmom Aug 2019 #19
IMO, Biden's gaffes don't matter AlexSFCA Aug 2019 #20
No on Beto. I'd rather have Pete, but He'll go with a woman i think oldsoftie Aug 2019 #22
Yep, he should go with a woman or person of color. Harris fits the bill nicely. nt SunSeeker Aug 2019 #26
only if it increases his chances to win AlexSFCA Aug 2019 #30
There's also talk of Stacey Abrams for the slot. SunSeeker Aug 2019 #31
IMO, the country seems intent on replacing the current insane meglomaniac old white POTUS Cosmocat Aug 2019 #23
I luv Beto!! And agree that would be a winning combination Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #29
It's really time for the bottom candidates to drop out OnlinePoker Aug 2019 #24
Thanks, Skya! Cha Aug 2019 #25
Made my day!! Peacetrain Aug 2019 #28
 

highplainsdem

(49,035 posts)
1. Interesting. Biden's gained several points over the last 5 days. That's probably
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:45 PM
Aug 2019

partly the effect of his brilliant speech last Wednesday, but I'm guessing the attacks on him for his "gaffes" are also backfiring.

Thanks for posting this!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)
2. That's a Rasmussen Poll NOT Harris
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:45 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
4. FiveThirtyEight says it's HarrisX.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:50 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #4)

 

highplainsdem

(49,035 posts)
5. Rasmussen Reports, which Scott Rasmussen sold years ago, is the pro-Trump poll. This is SR,
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:52 PM
Aug 2019

a new collaboration with Harris X, which FiveThirdtyEight lists as Harris X:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

See the line there for the Aug. 8-11 Demcoratic primary poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,133 posts)
11. Good to know, thanks.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:01 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. This is about where things stood just before the first debate.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:47 PM
Aug 2019

Which is about where I'm guessing they're likely to stay, give or take 5 points here or there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,035 posts)
8. This is about where they've been all year, except for Biden getting a bump after his announcement,
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:56 PM
Aug 2019

when he apparently cut into Sanders' support quite a bit for weeks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. Oh that's right, back when Bernie was the frontrunner
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:00 PM
Aug 2019

even though he wasn't. Ah the good old days!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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highplainsdem

(49,035 posts)
14. If you look at the graph on the RCP page
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:06 PM
Aug 2019
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

you can reset the dates to go all the way back to December 9, 2018, through August 10,2019.

Biden leads the entire time, most of that time with about 30% of the vote.

The main difference is that Warren has been gaining, mostly at Sanders's expense.

But Sanders isn't likely to allow that to continue much longer.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
21. Yes he does.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:27 PM
Aug 2019

Amazing how consistent this race has been.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
27. Bernie was never the front runner. Even before Biden announced, there..
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:15 PM
Aug 2019

was only one Emerson poll that showed Bernie slightly ahead of Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. I haven't seen the debate plunge in ANY of these polls.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:59 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
12. Re Elizabeth Warren - bunk
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:04 PM
Aug 2019

Looking through the RCP listings of polls since May, Harris X is the only poll which has shown EW at less than double digits. Current RCP average for Warren is 18.6%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
16. the HarrisX poll is a poll of the "Harris Panel"
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:17 PM
Aug 2019

The "Harris Panel" is the same pool of people they survey from over and over and over again online.

That is why it's results are always so similar and why they can pump out a Harris X poll 5 times a week.

It's not a random poll of the general public.

MorningConsult, Reuters/Ipsos and The Economist/YouGov polls all do something similar, when I fairly recently found out how these pollsters actually conduct their surveys, I stopped posting about them.

If anyone believes that Warren is actually at 9% support because of the scads of Harris X polls that insist so, well, go right on thinking that. Eventually people will actually cast votes and we'll see how accurate that was.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
18. Thanks. And that's why it is so unreliable, according to 538. n/t
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:17 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
13. The longer the polls continue to show similar results, unless there's some earth shifting "thing"
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:05 PM
Aug 2019

The harder it will be to move the dial.

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Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
15. Here's 538 summation of all the polls. Warren's biggest problem is her inability to gain traction
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:10 PM
Aug 2019

With AA voting block. Last week’s Quinnipiac has her at 8%... just can win on that


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primaries/democratic/national/

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
19. HarrisX is a C+ poll according to 538.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:19 PM
Aug 2019

Its results are somewhat more accurate than flipping a coin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
20. IMO, Biden's gaffes don't matter
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:27 PM
Aug 2019

it shows he is authentic not always perfect and scripted. In fact I think the gaffes help him to connect with older voters. He does’t repeat exact same things over and over and over like BS does non stop. It’s interesting to see that Biden’s lead is higher than BS and EW combined. I think Biden/Beto ticket would be unstoppable even as we all wish VP would be a woman. Gun control and healthcare are winning issues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oldsoftie

(12,602 posts)
22. No on Beto. I'd rather have Pete, but He'll go with a woman i think
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:35 PM
Aug 2019

Beto would be his own gaffe machine IMO

If I were to vote in a presidential
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SunSeeker

(51,698 posts)
26. Yep, he should go with a woman or person of color. Harris fits the bill nicely. nt
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:15 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
30. only if it increases his chances to win
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:49 PM
Aug 2019

As much as I adore Harris, I don’t see her brining more votes in general election as Biden is far more popular among black voters than she is. Beto would energize young voters and republican women with degree, independent voters, ‘moderate’ voters and, of course, the progressive vote that Biden may lack.

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SunSeeker

(51,698 posts)
31. There's also talk of Stacey Abrams for the slot.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:51 PM
Aug 2019

So you would suggest Beto? Why do you suppose he has not taken off in the primary race,?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
23. IMO, the country seems intent on replacing the current insane meglomaniac old white POTUS
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:47 PM
Aug 2019

with a decent, normal old white guy.

I am like most in wanting to have a sharper, younger more progressive candidate (or EW) but the country has been drug SO FAR in one direction it just seems the lifeline is a normal, kind older white guy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
29. I luv Beto!! And agree that would be a winning combination
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:35 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
24. It's really time for the bottom candidates to drop out
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:06 PM
Aug 2019

Not only do they take financial donations which might be better used by more viable candidates, but it also clouds the issues with so many competing voices trying to get their messages heard. Better for them to throw their support behind candidates that share a similar set of policies and campaign for someone who is more likely to go the distance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,655 posts)
25. Thanks, Skya!
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:13 PM
Aug 2019

It seems some people don't like this poll.

Oh well!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,878 posts)
28. Made my day!!
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:27 PM
Aug 2019

thanks Skya

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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