Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThis political consultant and former HRC aide at State just nailed it
Tweet from Philippe Reines:
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Biden slips up
trump: Sleepy Joe lost it
Dems: OMG WHATS WRONG WITH JOE
Media: Panicky Dems ask: is Joe ok?
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trumps insane; cant speak English
trump: Im a stable genius
Rs: trumps being trump
Media: Panicky Dems ask: is Joe ok?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)of the reason we even have trump.. They act like they want to keep him from what I've read about them on DU.
Mahalo to Philippe Reines.. the more who speak out about the "media" the better.
Thank you, !
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IADEMO2004
(5,559 posts)Lazy lazy lazy time filling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bringing back unpleasant memories of 2016. They'll never learn.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)battle for power, and much of the media is anything but neutral. It might seem less than sensible to work to reelect a president who wants to shut down the press and arrest journalists, but what's new about personal and national self destruction?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,999 posts)If Democrats think whining about the media is a winning strategy, we've already lost.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tblue37
(65,487 posts)the "liberal media."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Its like vintage Georgetown basketball in the Big East w John Thompson menacing refs while his players are ripping arms off on the court.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,407 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Butterflylady
(3,547 posts)Remember when the right said what they liked about Bush was he was the kind of guy one could have beer with, well Joe is like the the rest of us, we all at one time or another say something that others take the wrong way. In otherwards he's human just like the rest of us. Joe talks to us not at us.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)That's exactly the frustrating argument I had with Bush supporters. I can see the impulse for a hint of Bush nostalgia when I think of how much farther we've fallen, but still would rather not adopt the low expectations and standards for verbal presentation held by people who will support any fool over a Democratic president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,034 posts)thread has 82 recs and over 4,000 views in three hours.
Reines nailed it, and people agree.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,133 posts)This tail doesn't look big enough to wag the media dog yet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)Because the other factor is, 45 is a 5 alarm stooge. There's a lot they can scream about the cover-up his many loathsome qualities, but every day he walks out and is a babbling buffoon. So it's going to be hard to turn away malleable middle votes by trying to make Biden out to be soft headed.
That said, on social media this absolutely can be driven effectively by the army of Russian Bots, and other conservative social media manipulators. And, the quote liberal unquote media does nothing if not bring to life tge false equivalencies Republicans create to handicap Democrats. I mean, they spent almost two months babbling about the damn flag pin when BHO was running the first time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Do you really think that this will be an issue in a general election contest vs. trump?
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Link to tweet
Besides, we make demands of politicians that no ordinary person would be able to satisfy. I can promise you that if I hired a team of people to follow you around for a week (let alone a year) recording every word that came out of your mouth, there would be some things youd want to take back.
When a theme like Joe Biden, gaffe machine gets locked in, it becomes a frame through which the media view the events of the campaign, leading to profoundly different standards by which each candidate is judged. In its most twisted form, you get something like the 2000 election, in which reporters decided that Al Gore was a liar and George W. Bush was dumb, the consequence of which was that Bush could lie without reporters taking any particular notice even as they pored over every word that left Gores mouth to see if under some interpretation it strayed from perfect factual accuracy.
As a similar kind of frame takes hold in this election, other candidates will be allowed to say something unintentionally offensive, garble a URL or otherwise misspeak, with only mild punishment. But when Biden does it, the alarms will go off, and the keyboards will begin clacking.
The cynical expectation is that whether its right or not, the gaffe coverage will probably continue: Biden will keep saying cringe-worthy things, and the news media will continue to treat them as newsworthy. And much of Bidens appeal to Democratic voters is about electability, its own bit of campaign pathology that no one should waste time on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
live love laugh
(13,129 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We KNOW him, and that's a real problem for MSM and private swiftboaters, but they'll keep hitting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,193 posts)how about we just go with someone who is not insane AND not gaffe-prone? It can be done.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)It's not the world we live in. At least currently. Biden is sitting back where he was pretty much all along, and as much as I would prefer a sharper candidate, I understand that there are a lot of older, and not as Progressive Democratic voters who have coalesced around Biden and good chance he's going to be our nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(153,193 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)Front runners going for not-Trump riffs at this point are like jockeys whipping the horse before the first turn.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)The biggest blunderer in history would never let go of the Big Double Standard whoppers they love to fling at any Dem.
It's really not a matter of who we just go with. We gotta grow thick skins about each and every candidate cuz they're all targets.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,193 posts)but some certainly gaffe more than others
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)We really need to take the same lines they do: let Biden be Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
not exactly a ringing endorsement
over and out
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Link to tweet
As Waldman also wrote, Trump is waging a reelection campaign based on racism and fear, not to mention being the most prolific liar in American political history (he just passed 12,000 false or misleading claims). And what makes the focus on Bidens mouth extra aggravating is how it wipes our memories of the moronic things said by this president, as my follower @absolut_irish was so kind to remind Bidens critics.
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Some of these are funny. Some are worthy of a cocked eyebrow. But they are not nearly as consequential as the racist and white supremacist beliefs parroted by Trump and the right-wing echo chamber that found their way into the manifesto of the suspect in the El Paso mass shooting, who told police his target was "Mexicans. The atmosphere of menace and danger is now indisputable. Your time would be better spent worrying about the shredding of our values, ideals and the rule of law than the flubs of a particular candidate who would put an end to this shameful chapter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden