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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:30 AM Aug 2019

Right-wing/Gabbard is Hillary-Clintoning Kamala Harris.




So many Tulsi Gabbard-fans gripping about how they must stop Kamala Harris at all costs... It doesn't matter who wins the primary as long it's not Kamala Harris!





And now you know who really supports Tulsi Gabbard: The people who are on principle against everything mainstream, because it makes them look cool.

What are the odds that these people will vote republican once Gabbard loses the primary?
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Right-wing/Gabbard is Hillary-Clintoning Kamala Harris. (Original Post) DetlefK Aug 2019 OP
can't Tom Perez do something about this - perhaps using "soft power" if necessary? EveHammond13 Aug 2019 #1
If he says boo to her, the Assange wing will start the "unfair" accusations RhodeIslandOne Aug 2019 #6
+1. Hortensis Aug 2019 #15
That includes DUers rejecting her too sharedvalues Aug 2019 #17
She also wanted us to accept Mueller's report as a nothingburger RhodeIslandOne Aug 2019 #35
Yes. She should have 0% support here. sharedvalues Aug 2019 #38
WTHH! Dumbshites! Cha Aug 2019 #2
why Harris? wyldwolf Aug 2019 #3
One strand of Kamala's defense after the debate crazytown Aug 2019 #4
I think everyone should be pointing that out. Obama compared Assad's gassings pnwmom Aug 2019 #10
Nerve Gas - Sarin, used in Ghouta, Syria is the most horrifying weapon. crazytown Aug 2019 #12
I think Sen. Harris should address the attacks...going after Gabbard only makes her look Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #23
I agree, that was a tactical mistake by Kamala... not that she can't recover, though she needs to InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #41
She should do it sooner rather than later...and I agree she can recover...whether she does it or Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #44
Some Rs have the theory that Harris is the biggest threat. But they probably pnwmom Aug 2019 #11
She's a woman who could soar, best that a woman lead the attack. Hortensis Aug 2019 #16
Maybe she was auditioning to be Biden's VP? thesquanderer Aug 2019 #21
Reddit has a "List of Damning Articles on Harris." betsuni Aug 2019 #5
lol.. Cha Aug 2019 #7
Oh dear... I guess that means it's GAME OVER, eh? NurseJackie Aug 2019 #8
When JPR is on the case, you know ... betsuni Aug 2019 #9
JPR? crazytown Aug 2019 #14
interesting that Trump and Tulsi Gabbard have both been going after Google JI7 Aug 2019 #13
Correct. Gabbards responsibility to the nation is to go after gun violence sharedvalues Aug 2019 #18
And Sen. Harris also criticized a good Democrat...not feeling sorry for Sen. Harris. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #24
there is a difference between Primary politics in attempt to win the nomination and what Gabbard is JI7 Aug 2019 #25
It is exactly what Gabbard is doing. And calling someone a racist is an attempt to destroy them... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #28
I completely agree. Harris needs to stand up to her or this will continue. What Gabbard is doing is Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #33
Exactly...this is Harris's moment to lead...if she can. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #34
"so why not correct her earlier statement ?" thesquanderer Aug 2019 #20
I stand with Senator Harris with respect to these attacks Gothmog Aug 2019 #19
Who is Gadfly Morse, and why should we quote/link his feed? thesquanderer Aug 2019 #22
I'm not going by one person. I'm going by the general sentiment of all responses. DetlefK Aug 2019 #26
re: "the general sentiment of all responses." thesquanderer Aug 2019 #27
Yeah. That Qanon- or Pizzagate- or Birther- or Invasion-stuff will never have consequences. DetlefK Aug 2019 #30
Does Gabbard Have Russian Connections? dlk Aug 2019 #29
Now that you mention it... DetlefK Aug 2019 #31
This struck me as Russian trolling while I read it. n/t cynatnite Aug 2019 #36
Open season on open primary states. Amimnoch Aug 2019 #32
So much this obamanut2012 Aug 2019 #37
go away gabbard dsp3000 Aug 2019 #39
SIGH nbsmom Aug 2019 #40
Tulsi, who? NCLefty Aug 2019 #42
Tulsi Gabbard Endorsed Dennis Kucinich for Governor in April 2018 JI7 Aug 2019 #43
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
1. can't Tom Perez do something about this - perhaps using "soft power" if necessary?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:43 AM
Aug 2019

he probably can't come right out and tell her to stop

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RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
6. If he says boo to her, the Assange wing will start the "unfair" accusations
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:10 AM
Aug 2019

Let Tulsi die in the vine.

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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
17. That includes DUers rejecting her too
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:19 AM
Aug 2019

She’s an Assad apologist. She should have 0% DU support.

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RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
35. She also wanted us to accept Mueller's report as a nothingburger
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:29 AM
Aug 2019

And that the President is not in bed with Russia.

She is a Trump/Putin sleeper.

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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
38. Yes. She should have 0% support here.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:11 PM
Aug 2019
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Cha

(297,799 posts)
2. WTHH! Dumbshites!
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:21 AM
Aug 2019



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wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
3. why Harris?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:30 AM
Aug 2019

Am I missing something?

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
4. One strand of Kamala's defense after the debate
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:47 AM
Aug 2019

was to point to Gabbard's history as an apologist for Bashar al-Assad and for Russian involvement in Syria.

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pnwmom

(109,006 posts)
10. I think everyone should be pointing that out. Obama compared Assad's gassings
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:29 AM
Aug 2019

of his people to the Nazis. Gabbard's in denial on that.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
12. Nerve Gas - Sarin, used in Ghouta, Syria is the most horrifying weapon.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:47 AM
Aug 2019

It paralyses the lungs - victims suffocate to death, enduring 3 to 4 minutes of absolute terror.

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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
23. I think Sen. Harris should address the attacks...going after Gabbard only makes her look
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:44 AM
Aug 2019

like she has something to hide. She will need to address her past as a DA and AG at some point...sooner is better than later.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
41. I agree, that was a tactical mistake by Kamala... not that she can't recover, though she needs to
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:26 AM
Aug 2019

respond to the charges.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
44. She should do it sooner rather than later...and I agree she can recover...whether she does it or
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:58 PM
Aug 2019

not will also say something about her temperament and whether she should be president...a president can't let anger dictate his/her policy.

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pnwmom

(109,006 posts)
11. Some Rs have the theory that Harris is the biggest threat. But they probably
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:31 AM
Aug 2019

want to kneecap all the top candidates.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. She's a woman who could soar, best that a woman lead the attack.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 07:01 AM
Aug 2019

Remember Carly Fiorina and the Republicans fake-qualifying her for their debates in order to have a female attack dog to sic on Hillary?

Gabbard is currently performing the same function.

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thesquanderer

(11,996 posts)
21. Maybe she was auditioning to be Biden's VP?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:32 AM
Aug 2019

She did just was his VP should do... attack the biggest thorn in his side, so he doesn't have to do it himself. Harris zinged Biden first, and now she gets some comeuppence without Biden having to resort to doing it himself, he gets to stay out of the mud.

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betsuni

(25,686 posts)
5. Reddit has a "List of Damning Articles on Harris."
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 04:51 AM
Aug 2019

Conspiracy theories and misinformation. Also posted at JPR. Nutty.

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Cha

(297,799 posts)
7. lol..
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:16 AM
Aug 2019

jpr's on the case?

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Oh dear... I guess that means it's GAME OVER, eh?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:12 AM
Aug 2019


JPR has the biggest collection of fools and idiots I've ever seen.
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betsuni

(25,686 posts)
9. When JPR is on the case, you know ...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:14 AM
Aug 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
14. JPR?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:49 AM
Aug 2019

Even Manny Goldstein high tailed it out there

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JI7

(89,279 posts)
13. interesting that Trump and Tulsi Gabbard have both been going after Google
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:48 AM
Aug 2019

reminds me of how Trump, wikileaks, Putin, Stein and another campaign were all spreading DNC conspiracies .

people made excuses for her false claims about Mueller's report by saying that was before it was actually released.

so why not correct her earlier statement ?

why is she going after another democrat at a time when all democrats have been focused on gun violence ?

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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
18. Correct. Gabbards responsibility to the nation is to go after gun violence
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:22 AM
Aug 2019

Instead she’s criticizing another good Democrat.

Goodbye Tulsi. Please enjoy your primarying.

(There’s a real chance Gabbard will run as a third party candidate. In which case she will get Trump elected. Reject Gabbard now.)

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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
24. And Sen. Harris also criticized a good Democrat...not feeling sorry for Sen. Harris.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:46 AM
Aug 2019
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JI7

(89,279 posts)
25. there is a difference between Primary politics in attempt to win the nomination and what Gabbard is
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:56 AM
Aug 2019

doing .

Harris did not make comments like Biden was unqualified or his entire life is a lie and similar shit. she brought up on POLICY issue in an attempt to try to get some voters away from him. it didn't work but it wasn't anything more than that.

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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
28. It is exactly what Gabbard is doing. And calling someone a racist is an attempt to destroy them...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:25 AM
Aug 2019

worse than Gabbard's actions in my opinion...and Sen. Harris tried again in the second debate. Gabbard has bought up issues concerning Sen. Harris's tenure as DA and AG...fair game. She has questioned Sen. Harris's policy decisions. Now that aside, reputable sources have supported Gabbard's charges,thus Sen. Harris should address the substance of this not and continue to attack the messenger.

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Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
33. I completely agree. Harris needs to stand up to her or this will continue. What Gabbard is doing is
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:58 AM
Aug 2019

nothing, compared to what Trump would do in the general election. He knows no limits.

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Demsrule86

(68,715 posts)
34. Exactly...this is Harris's moment to lead...if she can.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:27 AM
Aug 2019

After seeing her get angry and flustered at the second debate....a fair question is -does she have the temperament needed in a president...but it is one debate so she has a chance now to show what she is made of...

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thesquanderer

(11,996 posts)
20. "so why not correct her earlier statement ?"
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:27 AM
Aug 2019

Good question. I'd like to see her asked about her current position.

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Gothmog

(145,666 posts)
19. I stand with Senator Harris with respect to these attacks
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:24 AM
Aug 2019
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thesquanderer

(11,996 posts)
22. Who is Gadfly Morse, and why should we quote/link his feed?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:41 AM
Aug 2019

I mean, you can find a queue of twitter nuts saying anything. What gives this any kind of legitimacy? I don't know about this OP. It seems kind of like quoting Brietbart. Or worse, just some right wing kook who reads Brietbart, and a handful of nutty followers. Seems about as relevant as posting a pizzagate tweet.

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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
26. I'm not going by one person. I'm going by the general sentiment of all responses.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 08:56 AM
Aug 2019

While Tulsi Gabbard gets a lot of hatred, those people who do love her see her as an opponent of the democratic establishment and they are obsessed with attacking Kamala Harris.

These people don't really care about supporting Tulsi Gabbard or touting her policies. They care about OPPOSING whatever they are supposed to oppose.

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thesquanderer

(11,996 posts)
27. re: "the general sentiment of all responses."
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:19 AM
Aug 2019

So he has a bunch of similarly nutty followers. It still looks like a pizzagate posting to me. Except that one had a LOT of nutty followers. I don't think we need to take every right-wing lunatic thread seriously.

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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
30. Yeah. That Qanon- or Pizzagate- or Birther- or Invasion-stuff will never have consequences.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:07 AM
Aug 2019
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dlk

(11,580 posts)
29. Does Gabbard Have Russian Connections?
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 09:39 AM
Aug 2019

We know they’re busier than ever this election cycle. Sowing discord and division is their goal (as well as flipping elections). I’m always suspicious of a candidate who spends more time attacking other candidates than promoting their policies and what they have to offer that’s superior.

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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
31. Now that you mention it...
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:18 AM
Aug 2019

Tulsi Gabbard is getting positive articles in russian propaganda like RT.

A few months ago, I checked what RT thinks about the democratic candidates in general. They loved Gabbard and they hated Warren. (Way back when Warren was the frontrunner.)

Then Kamala Harris became the frontrunner after making good showing against Biden, and all of a sudden they loved Gabbard and hated Harris.

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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
36. This struck me as Russian trolling while I read it. n/t
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:42 AM
Aug 2019
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Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
32. Open season on open primary states.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:21 AM
Aug 2019

With Cheetolini having no real primary contention, I am and have been concerned with tRumpublicon ratt-fuckery in states that have open primaries allowing Cheeto supporters to try to, en masse, affect our delegate outcomes in states where they are totally free to vote in our primary process.

States to keep an eye on during the season that have fully open or partially open processes:

Alabama
Arkansas
Colorado
Georgia
Illinois
Indiana
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Wisconsin

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dsp3000

(489 posts)
39. go away gabbard
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:23 PM
Aug 2019

NOT helping the democrats win at all.

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nbsmom

(591 posts)
40. SIGH
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:45 PM
Aug 2019

This is disturbing on all the levels. AGs and prosecutors need to be women and they need to be POC (ahem, Letitia James). Why is Gabbard piling on Harris? Wouldn’t shock me for several reasons. 1) it serves the purposes of the cable show bookers who want to maintain the “Dems in Disarray” narrative. 2) “Harris as AG did bad things “ is working for Gabbard as an issue, and she wants to qualify for the October debates somehow 3) Slamming on Harris means she doesn’t have to answer questions like, “Why are you an Assad apologist?” or “Who is paying for your media buys in N.H. and Iowa and SC.?”

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