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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:27 PM Aug 2019

Morning Consult POST-DEBATE poll: Biden 32%, Sanders 18%, Warren 15%, Harris 10%,

Buttigieg 6%, Booker 3%


https://morningconsult.com/2019/08/02/detroit-debates-deliver-meager-returns-for-bidens-challengers/


Detroit Debates Deliver Meager Returns for Biden’s Challengers




Standing in contrast to the first set of Democratic debates, this week’s matchups did little to immediately impact potential Democratic primary voters’ preferences for president.

Thirty-two percent of Democratic primary voters said they still want to see former Vice President Joe Biden at the top of the party’s 2020 ticket, according to new Morning Consult polling conducted after the Tuesday and Wednesday debates in Detroit. That figure hasn’t shifted much since the end of the first round of debates, when 33 percent said Biden was their first choice.

No candidate saw movement outside the survey’s margin of error of 2 percentage points. The Aug. 1 poll was conducted among 2,419 registered voters who indicated they may vote in the Democratic primary or caucus in their state.

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Author Marianne Williamson, despite having a breakout night Tuesday, did not attract more voters and still sits at 1 percent. She did inspire dozens of memes, however, along with a New York Times op-ed.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Morning Consult POST-DEBATE poll: Biden 32%, Sanders 18%, Warren 15%, Harris 10%, (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2019 OP
Just got my email a few minutes ago, was going to post this here. Excellent news for Biden.... George II Aug 2019 #1
MSNBC mentioned it, so I went looking for it. Neither RCP nor 538 had it on their list of latest highplainsdem Aug 2019 #4
Yes, it is excellent for Biden, isn't it? The others were supposed to Hortensis Aug 2019 #23
An unsurprising result. Joe's got staying power it seems. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #2
Yep. His lead has been remarkably consistent. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #6
I don't think this is surprising at all. MineralMan Aug 2019 #3
It's not surprising, but it's because frazzled Aug 2019 #7
Pete is really tanking BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #5
Not really FBaggins Aug 2019 #9
Gabbards polling not listed in the article and the full download will not open... Anon-C Aug 2019 #8
She's at 1% according to this tweet: highplainsdem Aug 2019 #10
Thank you, highplainsdem! Anon-C Aug 2019 #13
You're very welcome! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #16
Morning Consult is junk crazytown Aug 2019 #11
The results are very close to the last Quinnipiac poll, a few days ago. Main difference is highplainsdem Aug 2019 #12
Yes. crazytown Aug 2019 #15
You know the polls are pretty consistent... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #14
Thanks for the find. Biden is holding on to a strong lead. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #17
Excellent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #18
Let's go, Joe! Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #19
As soon as I heard the ratings, I predicted the race wouldn't change "appreciably". Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #20
Honestly this thing is over TSIAS Aug 2019 #21
Detroit Debates Deliver Meager Returns for Biden's Challengers Cha Aug 2019 #22
I expect Cory to get his official walking papers before the end of 2019. oasis Aug 2019 #27
Yeah, I'm not too Cha Aug 2019 #37
LOL! Trying to sound like he's from the hood. Where Cory Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #32
Mahalo for Booker's Cha Aug 2019 #38
+1000 Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #41
Amen. Princetonian Aug 2019 #45
Aaaaaandddd as expected. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #24
Lesson learned: If you mess with Joe you get your hat brought to you. oasis Aug 2019 #25
2419 peeps Faux pas Aug 2019 #26
This is how polls work Hav Aug 2019 #39
Thank you Faux pas Aug 2019 #44
I do believe Joe is the only one in this country calguy Aug 2019 #28
100% agree. oasis Aug 2019 #30
Yeppers. nt Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #34
Joe Biden continues to lead in most of the polls. democratisphere Aug 2019 #29
K&R stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #31
Glad to see Harris slipping back to Tier 2 status madville Aug 2019 #33
Hadn't noticed, but you're right that Harris is closer to Buttigieg than to Warren, and closer to highplainsdem Aug 2019 #35
Same here. Though Warren was never my cup of tea... Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #36
You can't really discount that Warren + Sanders is also 32% DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #40
I'm not. I've pointed out elsewhere in this forum that Warren and Sanders have dividing a highplainsdem Aug 2019 #43
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2019 #42
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Just got my email a few minutes ago, was going to post this here. Excellent news for Biden....
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:32 PM
Aug 2019

....lukewarm news for all the others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
4. MSNBC mentioned it, so I went looking for it. Neither RCP nor 538 had it on their list of latest
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:39 PM
Aug 2019

polls yet, but googling it turned it up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Yes, it is excellent for Biden, isn't it? The others were supposed to
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:46 PM
Aug 2019

be splitting significantly more of his "unrealistically" high initial support by now.

Some good news is that attack-to-break-out tactics haven't seemed to work, so maybe we won't be enduring the sight of a repeat in September.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,168 posts)
2. An unsurprising result. Joe's got staying power it seems.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:32 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
6. Yep. His lead has been remarkably consistent.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
3. I don't think this is surprising at all.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:37 PM
Aug 2019

There was some action in the polls after the first debates, which was expected. It settled back down over a few days. The second debates were pretty much the same as the first, so it's not surprising that there wasn't much movement this time.

Things seem to have found their level for now. Biden has a double-digit lead over his closest rival, much as he has had from the very beginning.

Maybe after some of the low-performing candidates drop out, we'll see some more changes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. It's not surprising, but it's because
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:55 PM
Aug 2019

very few people are watching these debates. And thus their minds (such as they are, mine included) are not changed.

Even I, who usually watches every single debate during a presidential year (and even debates for governor and other offices on the local level), found these last debates (not to mention the first ones) nearly intolerable: I turned it off after the first 75 minutes the first night, and although stuck with the second, used the mute button frequently, got up and did dishes, and turned to other channels on more than one occasion to check baseball scores or to see what house someone picked on House Hunters.

20-person debates in July and August, five and six months before the first primaries begin, are really more than the vast percentage of voters can tolerate. The polls haven't changed because nothing has caused them to change. The debates are pretty much like trees falling in the forest, no matter how intriguing they are to political junkies like us here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,411 posts)
5. Pete is really tanking
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:39 PM
Aug 2019

Also, I guess Booker got a .05 bump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
9. Not really
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:35 PM
Aug 2019

That's a slight bump up for him from the last Morning Consult poll and right in line with almost all of the polling for him over the last couple months.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
8. Gabbards polling not listed in the article and the full download will not open...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:31 PM
Aug 2019

...what was her polling if I may ask?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
10. She's at 1% according to this tweet:
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:40 PM
Aug 2019




.@MorningConsult 2020 Dem (Post-Debate)

Candidates polling at 1% or less

Castro 1%
Delaney 1%
Gabbard 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Klobuchar 1%
Ryan 1%
Steyer 1%
Williamson 1%
Bennet 0%
Bullock 0%
de Blasio 0%
Hickenlooper 0%
Inslee 0%
Moulton 0%
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
13. Thank you, highplainsdem!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:53 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
16. You're very welcome!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:59 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
11. Morning Consult is junk
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:46 PM
Aug 2019

" You know, I can predict what Morning Consult will be next week"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=215603

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
12. The results are very close to the last Quinnipiac poll, a few days ago. Main difference is
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:52 PM
Aug 2019

that Quinipiac has Warren doing better than Sanders, and this one has Sanders ahead. Which I'd expect Warren supporters to be unhappy about. But the RCP poll average has had them essentially tied for weeks.

We'll have more post-debate polls soon. But I'm not surprised this one didn't find any significant change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
15. Yes.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:58 PM
Aug 2019

My problem is Morning Consult had has consecutive polls with one candidate (Sanders) coming up with the same result week after week (18 or 19%). I can tell you what Morning Consult will be for Sanders next week. 18%. bank on it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,618 posts)
14. You know the polls are pretty consistent...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:55 PM
Aug 2019

Biden has been on top since day one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
17. Thanks for the find. Biden is holding on to a strong lead. NT
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 02:19 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
20. As soon as I heard the ratings, I predicted the race wouldn't change "appreciably".
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:32 PM
Aug 2019
"...this week’s matchups did little to immediately impact potential Democratic primary voters’ preferences for president."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
21. Honestly this thing is over
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:41 PM
Aug 2019

The media will create a horse race, but the only question really is which woman Biden will choose for VP. I hope its Gabbard but that seems unlikely.

Even as candidates drop out Biden should easily remain on top. All of these debates seem like a waste of time, only serving to trip him up and hurt his chances in the general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,405 posts)
22. Detroit Debates Deliver Meager Returns for Biden's Challengers
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:45 PM
Aug 2019

Cory got 1%, right?

Thanks, highplainsdem!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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oasis

(49,394 posts)
27. I expect Cory to get his official walking papers before the end of 2019.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:59 PM
Aug 2019

I will shed no tears for that guy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,405 posts)
37. Yeah, I'm not too
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:35 PM
Aug 2019

impressed with the Senator, either.

oasis

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
32. LOL! Trying to sound like he's from the hood. Where Cory
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:27 PM
Aug 2019

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grew up in Harrington Park, NJ, the black pop. was less than 1% black in 2010. Which means when Booker was growing up it was close to 0%. I'm actually from the hood. We had a funeral today where family members also from the hood (Newark where Cory was mayor) assembled. The consensus was, criminals belong in jail. As my cousin said, what should we do, open the doors and let them all out? Criminals are ruining Newark, not the crime bill.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,405 posts)
38. Mahalo for Booker's
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:37 PM
Aug 2019

backstory, Kahuna

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
24. Aaaaaandddd as expected.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:47 PM
Aug 2019

I wonder how disappointed CNN is right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oasis

(49,394 posts)
25. Lesson learned: If you mess with Joe you get your hat brought to you.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:51 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Faux pas

(14,686 posts)
26. 2419 peeps
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:56 PM
Aug 2019

is not a huge number to hang our hats on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hav

(5,969 posts)
39. This is how polls work
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:44 PM
Aug 2019

For polls like this, 2000+ participants is a relatively high number which explains their small margin of error.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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calguy

(5,319 posts)
28. I do believe Joe is the only one in this country
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:01 PM
Aug 2019

who has the depth of experience to command the huge problem of restoring our country from the damage trump has brought to us. Not only in this country alone, but with our allies around the world. Joe will have instant credibility with world leaders. The only one who won't welcome his presidency would be Putin and Kim.


Looks like the majority of Democrats agree with me, although I still don't put much faith in any polling until we get to January.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
29. Joe Biden continues to lead in most of the polls.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 04:57 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madville

(7,412 posts)
33. Glad to see Harris slipping back to Tier 2 status
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:27 PM
Aug 2019

My rankings right now:

Biden, Bernie, Warren - Tier 1
Harris, Mayor Pete, Beto(barely clinging) - Tier 2
Everyone else - Tier 3

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
35. Hadn't noticed, but you're right that Harris is closer to Buttigieg than to Warren, and closer to
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:31 PM
Aug 2019

Booker than to Sanders, in this poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
36. Same here. Though Warren was never my cup of tea...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:34 PM
Aug 2019

I believe she is running the best campaign so far. I'm not impressed with her, 'I've got a plan for that schtick.' I'm impressed with her demeanor and how she is staying above the nasty, tacky personal (Biden's too old ) attacks and smears. Truthfully, I always thought she'd be the first to go on the attack. But I do give her respect for commanding a presidential demeanor.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
40. You can't really discount that Warren + Sanders is also 32%
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:01 PM
Aug 2019

since these two candidates are both occupy the about the same space on the progressive/lefty side.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(49,012 posts)
43. I'm not. I've pointed out elsewhere in this forum that Warren and Sanders have dividing a
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:58 PM
Aug 2019

progressive bloc for months now, and that bloc is comparable to the support for Biden.

But they're two candidates, not one, and I can't see them merging their support, possibly by saying they'll form a ticket (I think a nominee in his or her 70s is fine with a younger VP, but two candidates in thee 70s on the same ticket would probably raise more questions about age). Nor can I see either of them stepping aside and trying to direct their supporters to the other. Not do I think they'd have much luck if they tried to do that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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