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madaboutharry

(40,213 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:21 PM Aug 2019

Kristen Gillibrand on CNN with Anderson Cooper.

I just saw her interview on CNN with Anderson Cooper. He was questioning her about this article Biden wrote in 1981, which was nearly 40 years ago, in which he wrote about women working outside the home. She attacked Biden about it in the debate last night.

She admitted to Anderson that she read the article only a couple of weeks ago.

So basically she, or her team, was trolling through the internet looking for something controversial on Biden. That feels so opportunistic and dirty to me.

She has worked with Biden for years and she knows what kind of man he is.

I also think it is hypocritical. Someone needs to remind Gillibrand of her past positions on gun rights. Is she the only one who is allowed to change one's views?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Kristen Gillibrand on CNN with Anderson Cooper. (Original Post) madaboutharry Aug 2019 OP
in my view she is just an opportunist pangaia Aug 2019 #1
That's the impression I get as well PatSeg Aug 2019 #3
Never miss an "opportunity"... Just another "Franken" thrown in her lap, I guess. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #2
No going to say what I think. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #4
She was looking for her Kamala Harris moment, thesquanderer Aug 2019 #5
Gillibrand telegraphed her line of attack before the debate. crazytown Aug 2019 #6
"I know you're not sexist, but..." LOLOL pangaia Aug 2019 #8
I'm not impressed with her. George II Aug 2019 #7
If you are in your 70's like me and Biden you lived wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #9
Apparently she didn't even read the article but relied on a staffer to spin it for her. wyldwolf Aug 2019 #10
Campaigns research their opponents' histories. Blue_true Aug 2019 #11
Deliberately misrepresenting something is Rovian. Whatever it takes, I guess. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #13
One of the unfortunate things for politicians is that unlike sausages and hotdogs, Blue_true Aug 2019 #14
This was beyond "unpleasantness" emulatorloo Aug 2019 #15
A good politician, like a Mafioso, is going to draw blood on the slightest opening. Blue_true Aug 2019 #16
It was awkward and rehearsed Trenzalore Aug 2019 #17
Can't say that I disagree with anything that you wrote. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #19
Uh huh. Fortunately her dishonest mafia-style hit was a big fail. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #20
Gillibrand played a weekly squash game with Franken and hung out with him in social circles Trenzalore Aug 2019 #18
They are all opportunist Trenzalore Aug 2019 #12
 

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. in my view she is just an opportunist
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:25 PM
Aug 2019

she also happens to be one of my senators

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PatSeg

(47,547 posts)
3. That's the impression I get as well
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:29 PM
Aug 2019

Gillibrand does whatever is good for Gillibrand and will apparently throw anyone under the bus if it serves her. Unfortunately, I don't think her kind of raw no-holds-barred approach is serving her very well, but she insists on doubling down. Perhaps she is getting lousy political advice, but she's turning a lot of people off.

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hlthe2b

(102,319 posts)
2. Never miss an "opportunity"... Just another "Franken" thrown in her lap, I guess.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:26 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
4. No going to say what I think. n/t
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:30 PM
Aug 2019
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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
5. She was looking for her Kamala Harris moment,
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:34 PM
Aug 2019

especially since this debate was probably her last chance to try to break through. I'm almost surprised she didn't preface the attack with, "I know you're not sexist, but..."

It was a lousy argument, but really, so was Harris'.

Harris at least benefitted from a commanding presence that Gillibrand lacks, and also from being able to present that she felt aggrieved having grown up as a black girl in a segregated neighborhood. Gillibrand didn't have any such angle to work, having grown up a privileged white girl.

In the end, honestly, I think they're both opportunists. But Harris wears it better.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
6. Gillibrand telegraphed her line of attack before the debate.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:40 PM
Aug 2019

It was the shock value of "that little girl was me", that gave Harris a break through. In comparison, Gillibrand had nothing.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
8. "I know you're not sexist, but..." LOLOL
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:50 PM
Aug 2019


I am glad she votes with dems.. but for the most part i find her rather silly...
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George II

(67,782 posts)
7. I'm not impressed with her.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:41 PM
Aug 2019
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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
9. If you are in your 70's like me and Biden you lived
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:00 PM
Aug 2019

in times before accepted ideas evolved to what they are today.

Very few of us held the evolved views back then but we have evolved and no longer have to older views.

Some still want to rerun to the past but Biden and I don’t.

So you can’t do anything but say we held different views in the past.

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wyldwolf

(43,868 posts)
10. Apparently she didn't even read the article but relied on a staffer to spin it for her.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:06 PM
Aug 2019
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primary today, I would vote for:
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Campaigns research their opponents' histories.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:24 PM
Aug 2019

There is nothing dirty about that, calculating yes, but dirty no.

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emulatorloo

(44,144 posts)
13. Deliberately misrepresenting something is Rovian. Whatever it takes, I guess.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:33 PM
Aug 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. One of the unfortunate things for politicians is that unlike sausages and hotdogs,
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:51 PM
Aug 2019

we get to see how they are made, and there is a lot of unpleasantness.

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emulatorloo

(44,144 posts)
15. This was beyond "unpleasantness"
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:05 PM
Aug 2019



Have a great night.
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. A good politician, like a Mafioso, is going to draw blood on the slightest opening.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:10 PM
Aug 2019

That is just the way it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
17. It was awkward and rehearsed
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:13 PM
Aug 2019

Harris hit points because she seemed genuinely upset about the position he took and she was the first person to take a swing at him.

Gillibrand telegraphed this for a week before the debate. I read an article she was planning on going after him over something he said in the 80s a few days before the debate.

She isn't good at the national thing and needs to go back to the Senate.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Can't say that I disagree with anything that you wrote. nt
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:19 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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emulatorloo

(44,144 posts)
20. Uh huh. Fortunately her dishonest mafia-style hit was a big fail.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:35 PM
Aug 2019
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
18. Gillibrand played a weekly squash game with Franken and hung out with him in social circles
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

She wouldn't take his phone call to give his side of the story before she led the charges to call on him to resign.

McCain says if you want a friend in politics get a dog. She is probably one of the most blatant examples of that maxim.

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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
12. They are all opportunist
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:32 PM
Aug 2019

Gillibrand just happens to be one of those politicians that has no ability to hide it.

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