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DemocratSinceBirth

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Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:17 PM Jul 2019

We've entered a period where Sanders is polling behind his numbers from four years ago.




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We’ve entered a period where Sanders is polling behind his numbers from four years ago.

RCP average on July 29, 2015: Sanders 17.5%
RCP average today: Sanders 14.3%

We don’t have enough Iowa polls for a real average, but on this day four years ago Sanders was at 25.5% there.

1:27 PM - 29 Jul 2019


Does familiarity breed contempt?


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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We've entered a period where Sanders is polling behind his numbers from four years ago. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 OP
I wonder if his less-ardent supporters all went to Warren of if there is just 'bern-out' wyldwolf Jul 2019 #1
That's it. This time 4 years ago it was only Sanders v Clinton. O'Malley was an after thought. brush Jul 2019 #4
You inspired a poll. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #8
i think a lot of his support was more about Hillary hatred JI7 Jul 2019 #5
well, that, too. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #6
There was an article a week or two ago that indicated that his most Blue_true Jul 2019 #14
There are more candidates now Gustafo Jul 2019 #2
There are more nuances in the candidates... LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #3
He has more rivals now, especially Warren. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #7
Yeah.. ain't life grand! Cha Jul 2019 #9
Yep Gothmog Jul 2019 #15
Last time around he pointed out that he was behind because no one knew him.... George II Jul 2019 #10
This is not a good sign Gothmog Jul 2019 #11
Gonna be rough but, he'll muddle through somehow. oasis Jul 2019 #12
I remain hopeful that sanders will fail to reach the 300 delegate threshold Gothmog Jul 2019 #13
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
1. I wonder if his less-ardent supporters all went to Warren of if there is just 'bern-out'
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:22 PM
Jul 2019

And they spread out across the field.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(53,791 posts)
4. That's it. This time 4 years ago it was only Sanders v Clinton. O'Malley was an after thought.
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:26 PM
Jul 2019

Now there are so many candidates, many of whom have taken up the progressive mantle that Sanders had a more or less monopoly on last time.

His window has closed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,252 posts)
5. i think a lot of his support was more about Hillary hatred
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:32 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
6. well, that, too.
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:32 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. There was an article a week or two ago that indicated that his most
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 11:16 PM
Jul 2019

affluent 2016 supporters had shifted over to Warren, not all of them, but the belief was that many had. It will be interesting to see how the numbers go after the debate tomorrow.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gustafo

(26 posts)
2. There are more candidates now
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jul 2019

Not a very fair criticism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
3. There are more nuances in the candidates...
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jul 2019

that voters can get behind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
7. He has more rivals now, especially Warren.
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:33 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,323 posts)
9. Yeah.. ain't life grand!
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:37 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. Last time around he pointed out that he was behind because no one knew him....
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jul 2019

For his sake, maybe that wasn't such a bad thing?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,389 posts)
12. Gonna be rough but, he'll muddle through somehow.
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 08:50 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
13. I remain hopeful that sanders will fail to reach the 300 delegate threshold
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jul 2019

I was a delegate to the Philadelphia convention and saw how the process works. One key item is that under the rules, a candidate cannot be put into nomination without 300 delegates. https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2020-Call-for-Convention-WITH-Attachments-2.26.19.pdf

Nomination of the Democratic Candidate for President: The Permanent Chair shall receive nominations from the floor for the Democratic candidate for the Office of President of the United
States in the following manner:

a. Requests to nominate a presidential candidate shall be in writing and shall have affixed thereto the written approval of the proposed nominee and the name of the individuals who shall be recognized to make the nominating and seconding speeches on behalf of a presidential candidate and shall be delivered to the Convention Secretary at a location as specified by the Secretary no later than 6:00 p.m. of the day preceding the day designated for the commencement of presidential nominations.

b. Each such request must be accompanied by a petition indicating support for the proposed nominee signed by delegates representing not less than 300 or more than 600 delegate votes, not more than 50 of which may come from one (1) delegation. A delegate may not sign more than one (1) nominating petition for president and for vice president. Pledged and automatic delegates may sign the petition.

If sanders is frozen out of enough states due to the 15% rule and remaining non-Biden delegates are split among several candidates, there is a chance that sanders may not reach 300 threshold
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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