Democratic Primaries

book_worm

(15,951 posts) Mon Jul 29, 2019, 11:51 AM Jul 2019

Biden leads Trump by 13 in new Michigan poll (Trump no more than 38% against Dems)

Biden runs best, but all tested Dems run ahead of Trump, who pulls no more than 38%.

Biden 49-36 over Trump
Sanders 48-37 over Trump
Warren 44-38 over Trump
Harris 41-38 over Trump
Pete 40-37 over Trump
Booker 39-37 over Trump

https://climatenexus.org/wp-content/uploads/Michigan-Poll-Toplines-PR1916.pdf

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden leads Trump by 13 in new Michigan poll (Trump no more than 38% against Dems) (Original Post) book_worm Jul 2019 OP

The more Trump falls down the IMMORALITY hole..... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #1

If real, this is very good news indeed. honest.abe Jul 2019 #2

K&R Scurrilous Jul 2019 #3

Good news for Joe as well as for our Democratic field peggysue2 Jul 2019 #4

Biden/Harris-that's the winning ticket Downtown Hound Jul 2019 #5

Maybe DownriverDem Jul 2019 #9

In 16 years, the Silent Generation will be gone Downtown Hound Jul 2019 #16

Excellent news crazytown Jul 2019 #6

Don't forget DownriverDem Jul 2019 #10

I think that makes it abundantly clear. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #7

Then DownriverDem Jul 2019 #11

Not me. He is always angry, I can't live with 4 more years of anger. katmondoo Jul 2019 #13

Yeah, because being angry at the people extracting us literally to death is the same.... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #15

Putin and the Rethugs say: abqtommy Jul 2019 #8

It's a bit troubling that only Biden and Sanders come close to 50%. Drunken Irishman Jul 2019 #12

let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #14

Does that take Turbineguy Jul 2019 #17

Thanks, book! Cha Jul 2019 #18

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)

1. The more Trump falls down the IMMORALITY hole.....

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 11:54 AM

Jul 2019

The more Joe Biden rises.

I believe in baby steps, Biden is talking up decency and humility. The differences between Joe Biden and Trump could not be more stark. One would have to be totally brain dead and blind not to see that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)

2. If real, this is very good news indeed.

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:01 PM

Jul 2019

I don't think any type of cheating, manipulating, interfering, etc. can close that big of a gap.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)

3. K&R

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:13 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)

4. Good news for Joe as well as for our Democratic field

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:15 PM

Jul 2019

We need those numbers up as high as possible to kick this slug and his enablers to the curb. The wider the margin, the better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)

5. Biden/Harris-that's the winning ticket

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:23 PM

Jul 2019

Then after eight years: Harris for president!

Then after eight years for Harris: AOC for president!

Hey, I can dream, right?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)

9. Maybe

Reply to Downtown Hound (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:36 PM

Jul 2019

Let's see if Harris attacks Biden in the debate. As for AOC, yes you are dreaming.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)

16. In 16 years, the Silent Generation will be gone

Reply to DownriverDem (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:53 PM

Jul 2019

And boomers will be mostly gone. That leaves Gen X'ers, Millenials, and Gen Z, all of which are way more liberal than their predecessors.

They will be way more open to AOC than their predecessors. Although it's hard to see sometimes given that we're living in the thick of their bullshit, conservatives are dying out. And there's nothing on the horizon to replace them. These generations will see the effects of global warming. And they will look to progressive leaders like AOC to do something about it.

I said Obama would probably be president someday when he first bounced onto the scene in 2004. People told me I was dreaming then too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

6. Excellent news

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:25 PM

Jul 2019

The results for Sanders suggest name recognition is key here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)

10. Don't forget

Reply to crazytown (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:38 PM

Jul 2019

BS won the Michigan Primary last time. Young folks voted him in. Let's hope more of us vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)

7. I think that makes it abundantly clear.

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:30 PM

Jul 2019

We need to nominate Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)

11. Then

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:39 PM

Jul 2019

we lose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)

13. Not me. He is always angry, I can't live with 4 more years of anger.

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:48 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)

15. Yeah, because being angry at the people extracting us literally to death is the same....

Reply to katmondoo (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:52 PM

Jul 2019

..... as trump being angry at poor people, minorities, and refugees.

Makes complete sense.

Like the saying goes, if you aren’t outraged you aren’t paying attention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)

8. Putin and the Rethugs say:

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:36 PM

Jul 2019

nice election you got there, be a shame if anything happened to it...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)

12. It's a bit troubling that only Biden and Sanders come close to 50%.

Reply to book_worm (Original post)

Mon Jul 29, 2019, 12:39 PM

Jul 2019

I'm assuming a bit of that is name recognition, though. Still, one constant from 2016 with the polls was just how many of 'em had Hillary leading Trump with less than 50%. What happened was that while Trump was polling significantly lower than you'd need to be to win - his rival was polling below a majority, as well, and it seems, at least in 2016, most all the undecideds broke for Trump.

Take Michigan from 2016:

In the final RCP average, Hillary was at 47% and Trump 43.4%. That's a decent spread (+3.6 points, so, nearly 4) but that also meant there was 9.6% of votes who either were going to vote third party or hadn't made up their mind who they'd vote for. The final results? Hillary won 47% of the vote and Trump 47.3%. Hillary's numbers were spot-on, Trump's improved by 3.9%. So, he got a significant portion of the undecided vote (likely due to the Comey Letter).

The good news is that Trump is far more underwater right now in Michigan than he was in Nov., 2016. That alone should concern Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden