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dsc

(52,162 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:19 PM Jul 2019

What the ever loving f***? (Homophobic New Republic Article)

The New Republic literally ran a story that contained this along with other paragraphs.

https://newrepublic.com/article/154457/mayor-pete-problem?fbclid=IwAR3eYBQ_iSWAwdG1554SbfwZ5Wm0ZsphtBhXJCFOaDH7RD3D6Vz8b0aSZs8

All this makes Mary Pete different from every other left-leaning neoliberal in exactly zero ways. Because let’s face it. The only thing that distinguishes the mayor of South Bend from all those other well-educated reasonably intelligent white dudes who wanna be president is what he does with his dick (and possibly his ass, although I get a definite top-by-default vibe from him, which is to say that I bet he thinks about getting fucked but he’s too uptight to do it). So let’s dish the dish, homos. You know and I know that Mary Pete is a gay teenager. He’s a fifteen-year-old boy in a Chicago bus station wondering if it’s a good idea to go home with a fifty-year-old man so that he’ll finally understand what he is. He’s been out for, what, all of four years, and if I understand the narrative, he married the first guy he dated. And we all know what happens when gay people don’t get a real adolescence because they spent theirs in the closet: they go through it after they come out. And because they’re adults with their own incomes and no parents to rein them in they do it on steroids (often literally). If Shortest Way Home (I mean really, can you think of a more treacly title?) makes one thing clear, Mary Pete was never a teenager. But you can’t run away from that forever. Either it comes out or it eats you up inside. It can be fun, it can be messy, it can be tragic, it can be progenitive, transformative, ecstatic, or banal, but the last thing I want in the White House is a gay man staring down 40 who suddenly realizes he didn’t get to have all the fun his straight peers did when they were teenagers. I’m not saying I don’t want him to shave his chest or do Molly or try being the lucky Pierre (the timing’s trickier than it looks, but it can be fun when you work it out). These are rites of passage for a lot of gay men, and it fuels many aspects of gay culture. But like I said, I don’t want it in the White House. I want a man whose mind is on his job, not what could have been—or what he thinks he can still get away with.

end of quote

I am simply amazed they thought this was OK. Just imagine for a second them doing this to any other minority candidate.

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What the ever loving f***? (Homophobic New Republic Article) (Original Post) dsc Jul 2019 OP
Heard about this from John Aravosis, elleng Jul 2019 #1
Doesn't it seem like almost nothing is edited anymore? LisaM Jul 2019 #2
I am just flabbergasted dsc Jul 2019 #5
Dale Peck? Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #3
And he "thinks" his friend's last name was "Cox". LisaM Jul 2019 #11
I knew someone with that surname. TexasTowelie Jul 2019 #16
That was a horrific read...screw you Dale Peck and your hatred AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #4
This kind of stuff is infuriating and thankfully has been mostly off limits in our party. brush Jul 2019 #6
The New Republic is a "liberal" magazine. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #9
Yeah no. It was founded as such in 1914, but has become a conservative rag. All its good writers ancianita Jul 2019 #12
It was sold in 2016. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #13
I know. I did say "mostly" off limits. brush Jul 2019 #20
They must really disliike neo-liberals whom they believe Mayor Pete is one. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #24
Yeah, saw this on the Twitter... SidDithers Jul 2019 #7
That's plain vile. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2019 #8
I have met several embittered old "queens" like that writer Glorfindel Jul 2019 #30
I think he snorted some bath salts before he wrote that article. LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #43
That is a widely shared assessment, from what I've read. yardwork Jul 2019 #55
Absolutely disgusting. Princetonian Jul 2019 #10
Messed up. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #14
Had to double check CDerekGo Jul 2019 #15
It is horrible, but one thing we should all know is this: madaboutharry Jul 2019 #17
Way, way over the top. MineralMan Jul 2019 #18
He's a hate writer Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #19
It's ugly and disgusting and sadly, this kind of despicable and vile hatred Indygram Jul 2019 #21
More about the author... jberryhill Jul 2019 #22
the fact he writes books for gay youth fills me with horror dsc Jul 2019 #23
Sleazy old chicken hawk LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #44
WTF? mcar Jul 2019 #25
they answered someone on Twitter claiming it was satire that was over the top dsc Jul 2019 #26
I'm not seeing the satire in this either MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #36
Astonishing, but had to read the last line of the quote twice, because it described Trump perfectly. Raven123 Jul 2019 #27
"I want a man whose mind is on his job" cwydro Jul 2019 #28
That is a vile and disgusting article... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #29
WTF is that ? i can't even finish reading the whole thing JI7 Jul 2019 #31
It was satire, they say mcar Jul 2019 #32
The typical excuse of a bigot. "I was joking! Can't you take a joke?!" yardwork Jul 2019 #53
Well said mcar Jul 2019 #54
Thank you for bringing this "article" to our attention MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #33
The link didn't work for me. It just says, "OOPS." Looks like they took it down. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #34
It worked when I posted it so I am wondering if it got taken down dsc Jul 2019 #35
Who was the author? Maybe it was a hack into the site. Honeycombe8 Jul 2019 #37
TNR responded to criticism of it by claiming it was satire dsc Jul 2019 #38
They took it down. Like locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen. Glorfindel Jul 2019 #40
you know the new attitude about publicity.... not_the_one Jul 2019 #41
I don't think it was a hack MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #39
This is insane. It's written by a deeply homophobic person. Disgusting. n/t Politicub Jul 2019 #42
it got pulled for offensive content Celerity Jul 2019 #45
actually he calls it inappropriate not offensive dsc Jul 2019 #46
Here's the New Republic's Response: MineralMan Jul 2019 #47
as I said above not even close to good enough dsc Jul 2019 #48
The article was horrible. MineralMan Jul 2019 #49
Since the catalyst for the attack was that Pete is accused of being a neo-liberal DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #50
OMG. What in the world? yardwork Jul 2019 #51
What a bizarre, disgusting op-ed. It's good TNR took it down and semi-apologized, but highplainsdem Jul 2019 #52
 

elleng

(130,961 posts)
1. Heard about this from John Aravosis,
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jul 2019

who is very angry about it.

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LisaM

(27,813 posts)
2. Doesn't it seem like almost nothing is edited anymore?
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jul 2019

I think back to the glory days of great editing with a lot of longing. And it's not okay. It's bad enough that it was published, but who writes that in the first place? And why would a magazine like the New Republic even consider printing it?

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dsc

(52,162 posts)
5. I am just flabbergasted
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:26 PM
Jul 2019
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
3. Dale Peck? Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jul 2019
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LisaM

(27,813 posts)
11. And he "thinks" his friend's last name was "Cox".
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jul 2019

I wasn't sure it wasn't a satire piece for a minute.

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TexasTowelie

(112,227 posts)
16. I knew someone with that surname.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jul 2019

Her first name was Mary. The trash talkers always said that she had sister named Minnie.

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AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
4. That was a horrific read...screw you Dale Peck and your hatred
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jul 2019
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brush

(53,784 posts)
6. This kind of stuff is infuriating and thankfully has been mostly off limits in our party.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:31 PM
Jul 2019

In a general election it won't be though. The repugs will get dirty.

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. The New Republic is a "liberal" magazine.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:34 PM
Jul 2019
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ancianita

(36,061 posts)
12. Yeah no. It was founded as such in 1914, but has become a conservative rag. All its good writers
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jul 2019

gone.

Its readership is half what it was 10 years ago, down to around 53,000.

So fuck this rag.

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hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
13. It was sold in 2016.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:44 PM
Jul 2019
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brush

(53,784 posts)
20. I know. I did say "mostly" off limits.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jul 2019
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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. They must really disliike neo-liberals whom they believe Mayor Pete is one.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:38 PM
Jul 2019

I find the whole labeling thing reductionist.

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
7. Yeah, saw this on the Twitter...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:32 PM
Jul 2019

WTF indeed.

Sid

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greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
8. That's plain vile.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:33 PM
Jul 2019

What's wrong with the writer?

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Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
30. I have met several embittered old "queens" like that writer
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jul 2019

They loathe themselves and everyone else. This writer is seething and churning with jealousy of Mr. Buttigieg's youth and talent, both of which are blindingly evident, and his achievements, which the writer sorely lacks.

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LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
43. I think he snorted some bath salts before he wrote that article.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:07 AM
Jul 2019

Anyone who knows this asshole should shun him. He's a vile piece of trash.

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yardwork

(61,634 posts)
55. That is a widely shared assessment, from what I've read.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jul 2019
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
10. Absolutely disgusting.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:38 PM
Jul 2019

Who approved this garbage?

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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
14. Messed up.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:51 PM
Jul 2019

Leaving it at that. Thank you for putting it front and center.

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CDerekGo

(507 posts)
15. Had to double check
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:54 PM
Jul 2019

the link more than once to see that this WAS NOT The Onion...

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madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
17. It is horrible, but one thing we should all know is this:
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 07:59 PM
Jul 2019

Pete Buttigieg knows who he is and doesn't give a shit what some jerk writes about him. We can all follow Mayor Pete's lead on this because no doubt he will shrug it off.

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. Way, way over the top.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jul 2019

Email going out to the publisher.

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Farmer-Rick

(10,182 posts)
19. He's a hate writer
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jul 2019

I read some of Peck...er's other articles and I wish I had gone blind before I read them. They were 2 reviews that eviserated the authors. I think this one is by far his most awful. I wish he would stop writing and getting published. He really is a bad writer. Like a better spoken Rush Limpballs with a homophobic twist.

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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
21. It's ugly and disgusting and sadly, this kind of despicable and vile hatred
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:10 PM
Jul 2019

would motivate even more right wing religious whack jobs to vote for Trump. While good, decent, normal Americans may be ready for a gay president and would support and vote for Buttigieg...if he is the nominee it will also cause usually dormant hate mongers that don't vote to rise up in support of Trump.

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
22. More about the author...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jul 2019

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Peck

Dale Peck (born 1967) is an American novelist, critic, and columnist. His 2009 novel, Sprout, won the Lambda Literary Award for LGBT Children's/Young Adult literature, and was a finalist for the Stonewall Book Award in the Children's and Young Adult Literature category.

...

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dsc

(52,162 posts)
23. the fact he writes books for gay youth fills me with horror
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:22 PM
Jul 2019
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LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
44. Sleazy old chicken hawk
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:11 AM
Jul 2019
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dsc

(52,162 posts)
26. they answered someone on Twitter claiming it was satire that was over the top
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:06 PM
Jul 2019

To say I don't see satire here is an understatement. If Falwell Jr. wrote this, the screams from gay would be heard on Mars.

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MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
36. I'm not seeing the satire in this either
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:59 PM
Jul 2019

I think they're just covering their asses. That article is offensive in every way.

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Raven123

(4,844 posts)
27. Astonishing, but had to read the last line of the quote twice, because it described Trump perfectly.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:09 PM
Jul 2019
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
28. "I want a man whose mind is on his job"
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:23 PM
Jul 2019


Has this person paid attention to some of our straight presidents???

Lmao.
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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
29. That is a vile and disgusting article...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:24 PM
Jul 2019

horrible

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JI7

(89,251 posts)
31. WTF is that ? i can't even finish reading the whole thing
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:36 PM
Jul 2019
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mcar

(42,334 posts)
32. It was satire, they say
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:53 PM
Jul 2019



?s=19


Brian Stelter

@brianstelter
TNR's response to my request for comment: "The New Republic recognizes that this post crossed a line, and while it was largely intended as satire, it was inappropriate and invasive," Chris Lehmann says
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yardwork

(61,634 posts)
53. The typical excuse of a bigot. "I was joking! Can't you take a joke?!"
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jul 2019

We've all heard it. Confronted for saying something racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, misogynistic - always the same excuse. "Can't you take a joke?! What's wrong with you??!!!"

Makes no difference if the writer claims to be gay himself. There's plenty of parallel violence in the world.

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MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
33. Thank you for bringing this "article" to our attention
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:54 PM
Jul 2019

I can't believe this garbage was even published. What a disgusting hit piece against Mayor Buttegieg. And what was with the photo at the top right? It makes him look like a predator.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. The link didn't work for me. It just says, "OOPS." Looks like they took it down.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:57 PM
Jul 2019

Who was the author? Was it a hack into the site maybe?

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dsc

(52,162 posts)
35. It worked when I posted it so I am wondering if it got taken down
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jul 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. Who was the author? Maybe it was a hack into the site.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jul 2019

I would think all their articles are cleared for publishing before published. Maybe it was a hack by a troll.

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dsc

(52,162 posts)
38. TNR responded to criticism of it by claiming it was satire
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:05 PM
Jul 2019

so it wasn't a hack. I think they just took it down.

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Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
40. They took it down. Like locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:42 PM
Jul 2019

Editor’s Note
By THE NEW REPUBLIC
July 12, 2019
Dale Peck’s post “My Mayor Pete Problem” has been removed from the site, in response to criticism of the piece’s inappropriate and invasive content. We regret its publication.

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not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
41. you know the new attitude about publicity....
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 11:00 PM
Jul 2019

that there is no such thing as "bad" publicity.

If it gets attention, and "clicks", it does what it was intended to do.

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MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
39. I don't think it was a hack
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:06 PM
Jul 2019

Read posts 22 for author info and 32 for an excerpt of the hit piece.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
42. This is insane. It's written by a deeply homophobic person. Disgusting. n/t
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 11:29 PM
Jul 2019
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Celerity

(43,404 posts)
45. it got pulled for offensive content
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:44 AM
Jul 2019
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dsc

(52,162 posts)
46. actually he calls it inappropriate not offensive
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jul 2019

and this isn't remotely good enough. TNR should be banned from all campaigns press rooms and no candidate should consent to an interview from them or any writer that is writing for them until an abject, total, and complete apology complete with firing of both the writer and the editor is forthcoming.

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
47. Here's the New Republic's Response:
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:28 AM
Jul 2019
Editor’s Note
By THE NEW REPUBLIC
July 12, 2019

Subscribe
Dale Peck’s post “My Mayor Pete Problem” has been removed from the site, in response to criticism of the piece’s inappropriate and invasive content. We regret its publication.


It's gone, and good riddance.

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dsc

(52,162 posts)
48. as I said above not even close to good enough
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jul 2019

First, this wasn't inappropriate it was offensive and bigoted. Second, TNR should be banned from every campaigns pressers, no candidate should grant interviews to this magazine or its writers unless and until there is an abject apology for this coupled with the firing of both the writer and the editor.

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
49. The article was horrible.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jul 2019

The apology from New Republic is what it is. They pulled the article and now say they regret publishing it. That's about as far as any publication will go in such situations.

I don't read New Republic. Not very many people do. Even fewer will after this.

I doubt that the writer will ever see print in NR again. As for the editor, I have no idea what will happen to him or her.

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
50. Since the catalyst for the attack was that Pete is accused of being a neo-liberal
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:45 AM
Jul 2019

Since the catalyst for the attack was that Pete is accused of being a neo-liberal who doesn't conform to the author's idea of how a gay person should act can someone answer my question:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287200156


Thank you in advance

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yardwork

(61,634 posts)
51. OMG. What in the world?
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 11:10 AM
Jul 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,994 posts)
52. What a bizarre, disgusting op-ed. It's good TNR took it down and semi-apologized, but
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 11:15 AM
Jul 2019

only complete failure of editorial judgment could explain it being published in the first place.

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