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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 03:27 PM Jul 2019

Among African Americans, Biden still leads nationally at 46% followed distantly by Harris at 17%...

African Americans know Joe!


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The former vice president comfortably leads the field among African-American Democratic primary voters, according to the NBC/WSJ poll. He garners 46% of support, trailed distantly by Harris at 17%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/11/biden-warren-harris-sanders-lead-2020-democratic-race-nbcwsj-poll.html


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
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Among African Americans, Biden still leads nationally at 46% followed distantly by Harris at 17%... (Original Post) Skya Rhen Jul 2019 OP
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #1
Obama coattails... SidDithers Jul 2019 #2
I do wonder if Joe's number a ceiling or a floor. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #7
I think it's a ceiling... SidDithers Jul 2019 #8
Maybe... right now 46% of the polled AA vote is a big number considering the # of candidates Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #12
I do remember that. I attended one of the big Clinton campaign events in Georgia and Politicub Jul 2019 #18
I think it depends who else breaks out. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #20
Go Joe!! AA voters are savvy, they know a good thing when they see it Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #3
We love Joe's authenticity and decency. He will be rewarded, accordingly, throughout the Primaries Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #4
Indeed He Will be Rewarded by the AA Community. Indykatie Jul 2019 #5
And he served without the slightest hint of any undermining, Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #9
Anyone criticizing his relationship with President Obama, GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #22
Agree, but i'd like Kamala to shift her attacks to the DOTUS & GOP onetexan Jul 2019 #24
Solid. oasis Jul 2019 #6
You're right. We know Joe! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #10
Sanders lost the primary due solely to the black vote. joshcryer Jul 2019 #11
Hopefully the same folly won't play out in 2020 wellst0nev0ter Jul 2019 #13
Since Obama isn't running, at this time it looks as though the best hope for high turnout among highplainsdem Jul 2019 #14
Good! Steady as it Cha Jul 2019 #15
Mahalo, Cha!!! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #16
Harris was at 6% crazytown Jul 2019 #17
Mayor Pete at 7% DavidDvorkin Jul 2019 #19
That's a high percentage! It's great for Biden's campaign. Politicub Jul 2019 #21
what happens if Harris wins black women but Biden gets mostly black men ? JI7 Jul 2019 #23
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
2. Obama coattails...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jul 2019

I expect this to change as more voters begin to recognize Kamala Harris as a viable candidate.

Sid

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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. I do wonder if Joe's number a ceiling or a floor.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jul 2019

Kamala's and Elizabeth's are definitely floors.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
8. I think it's a ceiling...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 04:03 PM
Jul 2019

Remember that Hillary led Obama in AA support early in the 2008 Primary.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/17/poll.blacks.democrats/

When Obama became viewed as a viable candidate, that support moved from Hillary to Obama.

Sid

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Thekaspervote

(32,769 posts)
12. Maybe... right now 46% of the polled AA vote is a big number considering the # of candidates
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
18. I do remember that. I attended one of the big Clinton campaign events in Georgia and
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jul 2019

remember John Lewis speaking for her. Lewis switched his endorsement to Obama later in the primary.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28lewis.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. I think it depends who else breaks out.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 11:16 PM
Jul 2019

If Harris starts breaking out you may well be correct. And I would be fine with that.

But if it is Warren or Sanders I think it is not a ceiling. Because Africa Americans will support Biden over either of them.

President Obama is, correctly, staying out of the fray till the primaries are settled. But he tied himself so closely to Biden it makes a difference. And Joe made it clear who was the boss and there was not a hint of the backbiting Presidents normally have with the vice.

One thing I am confident of. Once the candidate is apparent. Be it in March, April or May, President Obama will weigh in hard for that candidate. He will do all he can to prevent an obviously losing campaign to take the division into the convention.

I have said for over a year now that a Biden/Harris ticket is unbeatable. I believe that more than ever. That woman is as impressive as all get out.

Have a nice evening.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,769 posts)
3. Go Joe!! AA voters are savvy, they know a good thing when they see it
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 03:30 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
4. We love Joe's authenticity and decency. He will be rewarded, accordingly, throughout the Primaries
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jul 2019

and General...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
5. Indeed He Will be Rewarded by the AA Community.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jul 2019

Biden was a loyal VP and friend to Obama. People who question whether it's fair for him to speak about his work and relationship with Obama need to get over it. He has ever right to talk about the 8 years he spent by Obama's side.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
9. And he served without the slightest hint of any undermining,
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 04:28 PM
Jul 2019

which has not gone unnoticed. He is an honorable man...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. Anyone criticizing his relationship with President Obama,
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 11:20 PM
Jul 2019

The most popular living President, is sucking on sour grapes.

If Joe wins the primaries and Obama pitches in, especially if Harris is on the ticket, we will win. She is pretty impressive. If Joe goes down she is my next choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
24. Agree, but i'd like Kamala to shift her attacks to the DOTUS & GOP
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 03:08 AM
Jul 2019

Not to fellow Dems candidates, stick to ISSUES and present her IDEAS on how to generate jobs for americans, improve their lives, save the environment from catastrophic failure, improve obamacare, repair crumbling infrastructure, etc. Political expediency will only go so far. She is still wet behind the ears in national & foreign policy experience compared to Joe. She should know her place. If she keeps attacking Joe like that she w ruin her chances of VEEP pick.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
10. You're right. We know Joe!
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
11. Sanders lost the primary due solely to the black vote.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 04:49 PM
Jul 2019

This will not change this time around for Joe.

Reminder that the Democratic primaries are set up to give more proportional representation. The Fairness Commission was prompted by the 1984 primaries.

Hart and Jackson had more votes than Mondale but far fewer delegates. Jackson in particular had half as many votes but got a lot less representation in the delegates. It's also why the southern states get to go first in many ways, long term planning by the party to represent the underrepresented.

If it was proportional back then we might have had a Hart/Jackson ticket because they could've combined their delegates in a brokered convention.

Hart should've been elected, he would've won, and Jackson would've likely been the first black President, had we had proportional representation in our primaries back then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
13. Hopefully the same folly won't play out in 2020
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jul 2019

Hillary captured the black vote in the primary, but hemorrhaged Obama's black vote percentage in the general when it mattered.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,981 posts)
14. Since Obama isn't running, at this time it looks as though the best hope for high turnout among
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:11 PM
Jul 2019

black voters is the candidate the current polls show they favor.

Biden.

That may change.

But at this point there's no reason to believe any other candidate in the race will do better with black voters than Biden will.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,240 posts)
15. Good! Steady as it
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jul 2019

Goes, Biden!

Mahalo, Skya!

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
17. Harris was at 6%
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 09:26 PM
Jul 2019

She needs a second place in SC - She got the bump she wanted.

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DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
19. Mayor Pete at 7%
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jul 2019

I wish it were more, but that's far better than the zero support I've seen claimed.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
21. That's a high percentage! It's great for Biden's campaign.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jul 2019

He won't have to spend as much money or time shoring up support since he's a known quantity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,250 posts)
23. what happens if Harris wins black women but Biden gets mostly black men ?
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 12:29 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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