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Related: About this forumJoe Biden will deliver a speech defending his record on issues of race
By Colby Itkowitz July 6 at 11:23 AM
Joe Biden will give a speech Saturday afternoon defending his record on issues of race, in which he plans to focus on his tenure as vice president as he tries to overcome criticism for positions he took decades ago. As Biden aims to reclaim his own narrative, he will invoke his relationship with President Obama, the nations first black president.
I was vetted by him and selected by him. I will take his judgment of my record, my character, and my ability to handle the job over anyone elses, Biden will say, according to excerpts of his speech.
Biden has focused much of his presidential campaign on his work as vice president, while rarely talking about his time as Delawares U.S. senator from 1972 through 2008. Bidens rivals, however, have sought to focus on Bidens past stances on issues like busing.
In recent weeks, Bidens challengers homed in on racial issues as a potential weakness after he described working with well-known segretationists in the Senate and how one of them always called him son, and not boy. They signaled out his opposition to federally-mandated busing of black students to white schools, culminating with Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) telling him during that debate that she was one of the little girls who benefited from busing.
America in 2019 is a very different place than the America of the 1970s, Biden will say. And thats a good thing. Ive witnessed an incredible amount of change in this nation and Ive worked to make that change happen. And yes Ive changed also.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sounds like an opportunity for another gaffe. This has been over-covered already! Why extend it? He can discuss his positive contributions. But the media will find a way to make it negative.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Politicub This message was self-deleted by its author.
Busing, good lord. Anyway this should be an important contribution to the discourse.
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wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)... before quietly agreeing with him next week...
Millennial guests on MSNBC will pretend to have lived through it all.
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I'm sure she's winning lots of new Iowa fans.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,110 posts)It isn't "are you a racist". He isn't.
It is: If local governments don't or won't do what is needed, should the federal government step in?
To me, that was the single most important piece in the entire exchange. It was largely ignored. I'd like an answer, from all of the candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,110 posts)no, the federal government should never step in? Is that what you're saying?
Or are you saying "sit down and shut up"?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)Both Black and White parents hated it.
It created White flight into suburbia and leaving ruins of inner cities behind.
Federal government should have had a long term plan of integration instead of forcing to do it all at once.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,110 posts)busing. It is a general question: does the federal government have the responsibility to take action if states/local governments won't.
So, I'm guessing your answer is that the federal government should never get involved and all should be decided on a local basis.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)I said any precipitous plan by Feds will only cause massive discontent.
Just as the government doesn't mandate emission standards to be put in force immediately but gives goals for the future. This allows the auto manufacturers time for retooling and redesigning which makes the goal attainable.
Any fed involvement should set intermediate and longer term goals so that the action is more digestible and doesn't create a wall of resistance.
The lesson of busing is a classic example -- a vast majority of whites and blacks were for integration as a noble goal. They just didn't want their kids bused to schools hours away and this actually worsened the situation. If the feds had set a 10 year goal with smaller goals for the earlier years, gradually increasing to full integration, it might have worked.
In fact, rotating teachers from good schools to bad would have worked even better. The issue was equal quality of education for all and not actual bodies being in the same classroom.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)to gay couples if the local government refuses to do it voluntarily? Or should they just give them "goals" and hope they do the right thing - and if they don't, oh, well ...
The federal government and courts gave local governments plenty of desegregation "goals." The problem was the local governments ignored and reaisted them until they were ordered to do otherwise.
And yes lots of white folks said they were for integration, until they actually had to integrate. Then it was too much trouble.
And if you think the issue was simply "equal quality of education for all and not actual bodies being in the same classroom," you should read the Brown decidion to understand why you're wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)Issuing marriage licenses to LGBT couples doesn't cause a massive upheaval in the system.
It should be done and the feds should get involved because it is isolated to one or few county clerks.
Anyway, Biden never said anything to the contrary about LGBT marriage equality.
Nice try.
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StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)That's not how it works.
School desegregation caused a "massive upheaval in the system" because school segregation WAS the system, so the only way to undo the systemic inequality imposed on black children was through a massive disruption. Desegregation doesn't become a bad thing just because it inconveniences people who aren't being harmed by the wrongdoing the desegregation is designed to remedy.
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dsc
(52,162 posts)There are some great, some good, some mediocre, and some bad teachers in nearly every school.
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delisen
(6,044 posts)The "separate but equal" claim did not deliver on the equal part.
Integration experience in childhood is not just a "noble" cause, it can bring people together as one country, and prevent the the rise of authoritarianism and neo naziism we are now experiencing.
Integration is working now and many places and increasingly people whose forbears ran scared from their cities are returning and seeking integrated environments for their own children. Also many suburbs are now integrated as they have developed much more diverse populations.
The global nature of commerce today has caused enlightened corporations to seek to hire workers who can work effectively in diverse workplaces and who are culturally competent.
Actually busing and combining of school districts has worked in many places, and is still working where people have shown both leadership and commitment to all the children a community. Often this leadership bubbles up from the communities to lead the way and politicians then follow.
One of the biggest threats today to integrated schools are those seeking to turn education into profit centers for themselves or creating new"markets" where they take a big slice of tax money and create charter schools that are not accountable to the people and can select students rather than educate all.
While I agree with some of what you wrote, I think the period of turning away from integration has created a few generations of children less prepared for living in our modern world and less prepared to function in a democratic society than were the generation which experienced serious attempts to integrate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)The period under discussion was the seventies. Most white flight had already taken place by then.
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LibFarmer
(772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)If he wants the narrative to change, he needs to stock the content pond.
Well see how his mini campaign (CNN, this speech, and whatever else he does this weekend) helps him.
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Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)impact them - they are already feeling the backlash...
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)It's a good move and shows that he's serious about these issues. Which he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,831 posts)Biden needs to write his own storyline rather than having others do it for him. His narrative, his memory, his personal context. Then let the voters decide.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)
good idea. I think Obama "vetted" Biden a little differently, though... I think he picked someone that could make some white "folks" a bit more comfortable voting for the ticket. I'm not sure that will be a topic... I do like the "incredible amount of change in this nation" Biden mentions and look forward to this speech... and Biden does get credit for being there and advocating some of the recent advances. The past may be mixed, but he's been ahead of the curve, recently. These are the parts of his career that should matter most.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)around the issue of Rev Wright if memory serves
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden