Looks Like MSNBC Joy is All in for Kamala

[oasis]

Guest in her last panel were all pushing against Biden. I'm done with her for the primaries.

[MBS]

1. I've been frustrated with her, too.

I used to really like her. She used to have a broader and more honest perspective on both issues and politicians than she's been showing lately. As the primaries have heated up, she's even been (deliberately?) reporting facts inaccurately – which for me was the last straw.
So I've stopped watching her.
Actually, in the last month, I've stopped watching cable news commentary entirely– better for my health that way.

Actual news, or actual talks by actual candidates, is one thing.
Pointless speculation is another.
So no talking-head shows for me for a long while, I think.

[madville]

6. Of course she doesn't mind presenting facts inaccurately

She flat out lied about her homophobic blogs being "hacked". I'm surprised she kept her show.

These are some of my favorite Joy Reid quotes from her blogs (sarcasm):

“adult gay men tend to be attracted to very young, post-pubescent types.”

“most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing”

[MBS]

12. wow. Flat-out bigotry.

In the last few months, she's lied about both Biden and Buttigieg, too, in both cases with regard to African-American issues. In both cases, the truth was out there, reported in the mainstream media. Because the facts are out there for any responsible journalist to see, her inaccurate reporting had to be a deliberate choice, not just a "mistake." (Even a "mistake" would be indefensible, as it would reflect malpractice-level journalistic laziness).

I presume that there are more instances, too - those are just the ones I've noticed.

[cwydro]

39. Yep, many of us here can't stand her.

She’s an obvious liar.

[True Blue American]

111. I quit watching her

When she had Kamala on while Elizabeth was giving her speech. I had been getting more and more disgusted. That finished me. I wanted to hear Elizabeth, not Joy praising Kamala.

I despise race baiters as much as racists because the are keeping the division alive.

Just turned on Nicolle and there she was pushing her book. CNN for me. I just watched drug dealers on the History channel.

[oasis]

7. I've been a huge Joy fan until today. She really went overboard.

"Democrats have to choose if they want to be stuck in nostalgia, or move forward" I'm paraphrasing what she said, but that is how she wrapped up her last segment.

[gldstwmn]

88. She's actually right about that.

Having said that I don't watch her show.

[FloridaBlues]

18. Have to agree with you.

[madville]

2. She's not backing Mayor Pete?

I figured Joy would be a big supporter of his, weird.

[customerserviceguy]

27. Sistahood is powerful. n/t

[Iggo]

80. Thanks for flying your flag so prominently.

[customerserviceguy]

97. Whether we want to admit it or not

politics is often identity politics. And that's on both sides.

[demmiblue]

108. Oh, that flag has been flying high. n/t.

[leftofcool]

44. Joy is anti-gay

[shanti]

58. Why would you think that? n/t

[madville]

70. It was sarcasm

Joy is anti-LGBT, I should have indicated that.

[shanti]

110. Sorry

Guess I'm out of the loop as I had no idea

[Celerity]

113. lol

[treestar]

3. I was overhearing that

STILL on that Harris thing and then playing her saying it again! If I hear that one more time - gets more annoying every time I hear it. I hope Harris is not the nominee as it will be the first time I have to not like who I'm voting for. She gets more unlikeable every time I hear that stupid, stupid set of words about busing and her being a little girl and being "hurt" by random Joe Biden words and the tone of it. She needs to go to another issue soon and so do the pundits.

[oasis]

9. It was both shocking and sickening at the same time. nt

[MBS]

15. I'm on the same page. n/t

[oasis]

20. I'd vote for Harris in the G.E., but I'm more confident Joe

will extend a Dem victory in 2020 beyond his first term.

[samnsara]

40. i was reminded of a mean girls meme..

.....i had a co worker like harris. She got to know all those folks she worked with....feigned friendship.. then used every one of her co workers to claw her way to the top. I quit my job because of her and Kamala is giving me flashbacks. I cant stand it when someone betrays the friendship of another just to advance themselves. Thats not who i hold in higher esteem....and its definitely someone i respect. I felt (in my opinion) the performance was disturbing.

[oasis]

46. That's kind of the picture I have of her character. nt

[Zoonart]

4. Not just you ...

I have found her to be annoying in her primary coverage.

[oasis]

10. Her attacks on Trump have been right on. Her megaphone endorsement

of Kamala Harris is disturbing.

[oasis]

5. If Joy continues building on the idea that Biden IS NOT our

best candidate to defeat Trump, it will have the effect of suppressing the AA vote if, and when Joe becomes our nominee.

Joy's Kamalamania is going to hand us 4 more years of Trump.

[madville]

8. I was thinking the same thing this week

If they continue to frame Biden as some sort of segregationist or even racist, it could have an effect on Black voter turnout in many states that have been getting more competitive like Texas and Georgia. 1 or 2% somewhere like Michigan can make the difference. We'll see how scorched earth they are willing to go to drag Joe down I guess.......

[Midwestocrat]

16. I think you overestimate her.

White progressives watch her more than black moderates.

[oasis]

30. Many white progressives rejected the "smart choice" HRC. But,

while that's neither here, nor there, I'm worried about a repeat of potential AA voters being picked off by disinformation in this election as they were in the last one.

[Midwestocrat]

65. I agree with you.

[ooky]

26. Not just Joy, M$NBC.

They've been slamming Joe and praising Kamala like foaming rabid dogs from the moment the debate ended last week.

[hlthe2b]

50. The show prior to AM Joy (with David Gura had to be worse. The entire panel were so biased

against Biden that it may as well have been Trump they were talking about. It was waaaay over the top. I think even David Gura was taken aback by all the vehemence and frankly, venom. I turned it off

And to the DUer on the other thread that curtly asked me why I tuned in at all (I wasn't able to respond in that misplaced thread in GD), but I really don't expect MSNBC to allow itself to become so one-sided against one or more Dems. I really don't and as I said, it appears the host (Gura) didn't feel comfortable about it either--but he did little to stop it. I know the word "militant" has unfortunate connotations, but I have to use it especially for the woman pundit seated next to Elie Mystal. He was likewise on a tear, but at least not so aggressive about it. On edit it was this person (Sally Kohn, https://twitter.com/sallykohn who ironically has a book on her twitter account for sale: 'The Opposite of Hate: a Field Guide to Repairing our Humanity' ... Oh, brother, the irony drips... Oh, and get this, she was a former Fox News commentator. Any wonder, folks?

I have both Kamala and Biden in my top five, so before the few who always want to imply I'm for (fill in the blank) candidate and against (fill in the blank) candidate, that isn't the case. I do expect MSNBC not to be overtly picking sides during primary season.

[oasis]

53. A Biden presidency would likely be less turbulent than it would

with any of the other leading candidates.

Less contention and disention
means less cable news revenues.

[hedda_foil]

71. That's delusional thinking. The Trumpbots will constantly smear and hit him with gok what crap.

He can no more shut them down than any other candidate and if he stays low profile as POTUS it will be even worse.

[oasis]

75. Biden, being more electable, will also be more acceptable.

Reduced hostility towards the Democratic Party would be not only be a bonus, it's key to getting things done.

Call me "nostalgic" but, I like a political climate that's conducive to passing legislation that would beneficial to all Americans.

[hedda_foil]

95. You actually believe that will happen???

[Lordquinton]

107. So you're saying that the calims that Biden is the best

candidate will suppress turnout when he isn't the nominee?

I agree with that.

[oasis]

109. Those who unfairly discredit our front runner by constantly

claiming he's wedded to the past, have to share part blame for a depressed Dem vote when he faces Trump in the GE.

[ecstatic]

144. Actually, I know a lot of AA viewers who have been irritated

by her biases lately. Including myself. It's OK to show a little favoritism here and there, but her heavy handedness has been really obvious and over the top. I really hope someone sits down with her soon and tells her how it's coming across.

Then again, there's a possibility that she's being forced to do this by MSNBC.

On a side note, when you think about the ridiculous questions asked at the debates--like the one on healthcare for undocumented immigrants, etc, it's almost as if reporters and/ or networks are eager to attend their own funeral--because if trump "wins" next year, it's not just the 99% who will be f*cked. It will be a wrap for them as well. Yet, they keep helping trump and his narrative.

[oasis]

146. Joy's sincere in her Trumphate, so no problem there. I just hope

she'll channel Michelle Obama and stay the hell away from showing favoritism in our Democratic Primary.

As far as MSM is concerned, their corporate bosses don't know if Trump will put a muzzle on them if he gets another 4 years. Hard to say if they would be willing to roll the dice with Trump in control of both SCOTUS and the Atty. Gen.

[KPN]

11. Joy has never been an objective journalist. She simply

can not resist the temptation to use her position to try to influence outcomes that align with her personal preferences. I’ve been done with her for 3-4 years.

[oasis]

32. She's a great attack dog when it comes to Trump, but she needs to

stay neutral during the Dem primary battle.

[KPN]

52. I can agree with that.

[FloridaBlues]

13. She has been a never Biden for a long time

[democratisphere]

22. That's OK. Never Joy it will be.

[Cha]

90. Yep.. and this is her insulting Biden Supporters..

Joy Reid certainly insulted Biden Supporters on May 29, 2019..
FloridaBlues

[FloridaBlues]

99. Hi Cha

[Cha]

104. Sorry, FloridaBlues.. I forgot the tweet!

Link to tweet

[Midwestocrat]

14. Good thing no one watches her.

With apologies to Harris supporters.

[Rene]

17. Saw that on her show and I'm not happy about it.

I consider Harris disloyal.and won't consider her....for the way she attacked a fellow Dem. Joy is wrong to show her favoritism.

[StarfishSaver]

23. "Disloyal" to whom?

[madville]

48. She stabbed Biden in the back with a premeditated hit job

And then had T-shirts at the ready to raise money with. She showed anyone paying attention that she will hurt the party to promote herself.

[oasis]

33. Joy and her panel were shockingly one sided. I'm done with her. nt

[oasis]

49. If Joy continues to build Kamala up and she loses to Joe,

Democrats are likely to take a hit on valuable AA support.

Joy has probably made that calculation, but is will to roll the dice on the outcome of the 2020 GE.

[ucrdem]

122. Booker's already walked his nonsense back officially

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and Kamala's running into problems on her busing flip flops. And I expect Warren to re-take #2 either before or right after the next debate.

ETA: I took the first part out as I misinterpreted your remark

[oasis]

124. That could very well be the way things will play out. Joe,

unburdened with having to defend himself on the "race" issue, can focus on his original campaign strategy.

[ucrdem]

125. Joe did the right thing, so did Cory,

but I don't see Kamala changing her strategy. She was flatlining and now she's passed Warren. I don't think it will last beyond the next debate, but for now she's getting some traction. And she doesn't seem to care much about anything beyond SC.

[democratisphere]

19. And for that reason MSNBC is no longer known to my remote.

[Green Line]

24. Same

They have been brutal going after Joe. I'm sick and tired of seeing Harris throw her sucker punch and they keep playing it.

[democratisphere]

25. Yep. That network and candidate are done for me.

[oasis]

51. MSNBC may believe Joe would have a less turbulent 4 year term

than any of the other leading candidates.

That will cost them 💵💵💵💵💵viewership.

[democratisphere]

77. MSNBC is all about the chaos and slow zooming in and out

a giant still pic of drumpf's head.

[StarfishSaver]

21. She's also all in on impeachment now

[oasis]

34. Of course. "Impeachment: Cable News Bonanza". nt

[Frustratedlady]

28. I switched channels a couple months ago. I think she has really changed...

When she first came on, I was really impressed with her, but she has either changed or is showing her real self. Whatever the reason, I no longer care to hear what she has to say.

[oasis]

43. I was going to buy her recent Trump trashing book. That money

will now go to the DNC.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

29. These shows are all the TV equivalent of newspaper op-ed pages.

Joy has her opinion, and we can take it or leave it. What has bothered me about her for a while is that she often doesn't seem to have her facts straight, or she overstates or exaggerates something. I don't care which candidate she supports - she's just doing an op-ed piece - but I do care whether she's accurate. I don't watch anymore when she substitutes for some of the regulars like Rachel Maddow (who is scrupulously accurate) for that reason.

[oasis]

38. She usually has sharp guests on her panel. They examine Trump's

screw ups inside out. I've got problem with that.

Joy needs to stay the hell out of our primaries if her coverage continues to be slanted.

[Skya Rhen]

62. To be honest, 98% (and I'm being generous) of MSNBC's panelists/analysts espouse Joy's views

and attack Joe just as hard, if not harder - it's sickening...

[oasis]

69. MSNBC envisions Joe chipping away at their revenues if he's

elected. He represents a return to calm, reasonable governance with a hint of reaching across party lines.

How boring. It's poison for cable news.

[left-of-center2012]

31. She lost me as a fan with her homophobic comments

"When Bush nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, Joy wrote that the real question people should be asking is whether or not Miers was a lesbian.
She then mocked the lesbian haircuts of the directors of NOW and GLAAD."



https://www.kolotv.com/content/news/MSNBCs-Joy-Reid-apologizes-for-hurtful-comments-481151211.html

[emmaverybo]

56. For me, her homophobia discredits her opinion on any issue.

[oasis]

59. Joy's dodged so many bullets during her MSNBC tenure, she

probably believes she's untouchable.

If she continues to lose longtime fans such as me, there will be no comeback for her.

[Kahuna7]

112. Yep. She will Melissa Harris Perry herself right out of a job. nt

[LibFarmer]

35. I have never been a fan of Joy Reid

I despise her "know-it-all" attitude same as Chris Hays'

[JaneQPublic]

36. Chris Hayes has been called "Bernie's Hannity"

So, if Joy is slanted toward a particular candidate, she's not the only one on MSNBC.

[oasis]

41. Both need to stay with attacking Trump, and then, clock off. nt

[shanti]

61. So

Who is Rachel's choice, in your opinion? I haven't noticed any biases there.

[Skya Rhen]

66. She is very professional - I can't tell who she favors, as it should be. Seems as if the rest of

MSNBC has lost control...

[samnsara]

37. they started biden bashing and i turned over to the IT CROWD...

..i needed to laugh!

[oasis]

42. You didn't turn too soon, they kept on w/the bashing in the

next segment with a different panel.

[redstateblues]

45. Liked her at first. Her lying really turned me off

The only show I watch now is Nicole Wallace and honestly her Republican roots are getting more prominent as we get closer to the election.

[oasis]

54. IMO, Nicole is whole heartedly invested in taking down Trump.

Her guest panels have reflected that in recent months.

[madaboutharry]

47. I lost any interest and respect for her when she tried to claim her blog was hacked.

The entries in her blog sound just like the way she talks. No one hacked her blog. She wrote hateful things and to this day refuses to own the things she said. Her apology was meaningless.

The only time I have watched her show since is if there is a particular guest I want to hear. But from what I have read here it sounds like she has gone off course. I wonder what her rating are.

[oasis]

55. She's got way ahead of her skis with her Kamalamania. nt

[Skya Rhen]

67. Yet she is using her bully pulpit to try to pressure Biden to apologize for something that was

misrepresented. She definitely wrote those blogs but is not apologizing, herself...

[StarfishSaver]

119. Biden apologized

[Butterflylady]

57. By doing what she's doing

In the long run it's only helping them. Joy should not be badmouthing anybody after she was for given for her transgressions.

[oasis]

63. You are 100% correct. nt

[Demsrule86]

60. Me too...I was driving and switched to CNN where the coverage was more balanced.

[oasis]

64. Joy had better release the hot air from her Kamala balloon

and float back to earth.

[Skya Rhen]

68. I find CNN much more balanced, as well - what has MSNBC become?

[underthematrix]

72. Let me begin with I, a REGISTERED VOTER

will VOTE for the DEM nominee. PERIOD.

I have that sense that Joy is all in for KH.

I tweeted this to her in response.

Link to tweet

[oasis]

78. Good. Joy needs a wake up call. nt

[Kahuna7]

91. Doesn't matter. I tried tweeting some sense into her and her..

sister girlfrends weeks ago...to no avail.

[DeterDeter]

73. the funny thing is

I distinctly remember Joy egging on the idea of Biden running in 2016 (early, early days of primary, before he had announced that he would not be running), so that there would be an "alternative to Hillary", and said that he would be running on "a continuation of the Obama years". It's clear to me now that she was not being genuine, and that it was just a talking point against Hillary.

I'm not officially decided on anyone, but the thing that's really turning me off is...if you want to run against Biden from the left, there are plenty of contrasts to be made on his record and many years of public service. But every time I go on Twitter (I acknowledge that only a small percentage of the actual voting population is on Twitter), the emphasis is on some new fake controversy over something Biden has said, the latest one apparently people being outraged that, when asked in an interview whether Biden would be open to nominating Merrick Garland again, he basically said "sure I'd be open to it". John Legend tweeted something like "he just doesn't get it. He's running for a panel on MTP". Give me a break. A lot of it seems phony, and I wish they would just stick to the very legitimate contrasts between the candidates rather than grasping at straws for each piece of evidence that Biden is "out of touch". I fear that it's not going to do us good in the long run.

[oasis]

79. Welcome to DU, DeterDeter, and

Thanks for bringing up your take on Joys subtle anti-Hillerism in 2016. I never noticed it back then, but I was watching CNN, MSNBC and Fox at the time.

I totally agree that the constant tearing down of Biden with distortions and outright lies will, in the long run, hurt him in the G.E..

That's essentially the same kind of bull Hillary's campaign had to deal with. And it cost her votes.

[elfin]

74. Identity Politics - KH is both black and a woman

So is Joy. There it is. Yes, both of them are extremely talented, but IMO they are playing what they see are the winning cards for the campaign and for their segment of the electorate.

It seems to pundits that this is the year for Black Women voters to make or break our 2020 hopes.

I became disappointed with Joy some time ago when she danced around her former homophobic remarks on her blog. Yet she is so damn smart --- HOWEVER as a host for a major cable network, she should be as unbiased as possible amongst our primary candidates until we have a nominee.

But the network lets her get away with it. Perhaps because of the weekend? Don't know, but now when I see her I change the channel and I used to seek her out.

[oasis]

82. Joy had no bigger fan than ME. She's gotta tone down the

Kamala-love and rev up the Trump-hate for me to get back on board.

[Kahuna7]

94. Joy has come right out of her mouth and stated, in essense..

white men, need not apply.

She actually said this during her program on June 23.
"next up, Democratic front runner white male Joe Biden looks forward to breaking bread with fellow white male Senators who are segregationists...that's next after the break" I kid you not.

[oasis]

101. Too bad I missed Joy's 6/23 show. Woulda dumped her sooner.

Thanks for your help in exposing Joy's destructive advice on how Democrats should be running their party.

[Cha]

105. Yeah, Reid knows how to spin it

ugly.

Link to tweet

Mahalo, Kahuna

[Polly Hennessey]

76. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago.

Still watch her but mute or fast forward when the Kamala shrillness begins. I still like her but with reservations.

[oasis]

83. She's on probation with me. Not looking too good right now.nt

[namahage]

92. So Senator Harris is now "shrill"?

Who else have we seen that term used for?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

93. Shrillness was a favorite criticism RWs raised against Hillary. I don't like it as a criticism.

I don't want to see it on DU. It smacks of sexism to me because it rarely true.

[UniteFightBack]

81. She has been doing this for some time now. It's pretty transparent. Doesn't matter..I don't vote

according to whom Joy Reid or anyone else says for that matter.

[oasis]

85. I expect her to be back on board once Joe's the nominee, but,

for now, she's registering too many unfair shots against him. This kind of shit is what suppressed HRC's voter participation/support in 2016.

[Iggo]

84. You know, Joy Reid is easier to type than MSNBC Joy.

For me, anyway.

You could have used that extra effort to type Harris.

[gldstwmn]

86. Oh look it's another thread

bashing Kamala Harris on DU. Good lord.

[oasis]

87. Exposing MSM bias is Kamala bashing.

Got it.

[Cha]

89. Joy Reid certainly insulted Biden Supporters on May 29, 2019..

Link to tweet

oasis

[oasis]

96. I remember that, Cha. I was in denial about her motives

at that time and gave her a pass. Her show today really jarred me awake.

Thanks for your valuable contribution to this thread. It helps to highlight the Joy Reid history of bias against Joe, who is our best chance to get Trump out of the Oval Office.

With much appreciation.

[Cha]

98. No worries, oasis!

That's when I dropped her.. I could see she had no idea what she was talking about.

Really, Joy.. "Exhibit A: Joe Biden's consistent polling lead, despite generating almost negative base enthusiasm beyond baby boomers longing for the status quo ante & Dems fearful of their Trumpy neighbors' aversion to anything but an elder white man"''

Freaking rude and gratuitously insulting.

[oasis]

103. I just read Kahuna7's post# 94. Seems like Joy

has been promoting Kamala over Joe with mind boggling consistency.

[Cha]

106. Thanks for the heads up, oasis.

I just posted to Kahuna that Reid sure knows how to spin it ugly and left the tweet about her take on Biden Supporters.

[R B Garr]

100. My husband said this morning that Joy had jumped the shark

I said I had noticed that, too. Berating anyone who supports Biden, and as others have said, she wants an AA running, so it’s all Kamala. Supporting whom you like is expected, but tearing others down who don’t agree is tiresome. Sick of it. I have no patience for it anymore.

[oasis]

102. You are exactly right. Joy doesn't need to tear down Joe

in order to advance Kamala.

[highplainsdem]

114. She made her contempt for Biden and Biden supporters clear already months ago.

She's as obviously biased as Chris Hayes is.

[progressoid]

115. Heh heh heh.

What happened to the Joy Reid love fests of yore?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210536741

[oasis]

117. Much time has passed since April '18. She'll have a chance to

redeem herself when she offers generous support for Joe Biden after he's nominated.

[StarfishSaver]

118. I'm not sure she thinks it's her job "to offer generous support" to any candidate.

[oasis]

120. Think about it. General Election 2020. Biden Vs. Trump. MSNBC.

Are you still "not sure" about which candidate Joy will support?

[SMC22307]

116. No surprise there. (n/t)

[Peacetrain]

121. Okay oasis.. I have my coffee.. and am actually going ot turn the tv on

[oasis]

128. Don't expect Joy to be singing a different tune until after Kamala's

completely out of the race.

Coffee sounds good. I'll have some too. Enjoy your day Peacetrain

[Peacetrain]

130. You have a good day too oasis!!

[wyldwolf]

123. Part of my issue with MSNBC's coverage has been that, as well as...

these young (they look 18!) "Democratic strategists" who don't know shit. I could argue them down until they're crying for daddy.

[oasis]

129. Their anecdotal contributions are sometimes amusing but hold no

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weight with me. I've been around the block a time or two and know what I know.

[brooklynite]

126. Because listening to someone who disagree with you is intolerable?

[oasis]

131. I unsubscribed to Fox because of the propaganda. Joy needs to

check herself before she wrecks herself.

[brooklynite]

134. If one person gives you her opinion on an opinion show, that's not really propaganda...

Are you suggesting that MSNBC is all in for Harris and biasing its coverage accordingly?

[oasis]

135. I'm saying JOY is "all in for Kamala". Their are links on this thread

which back up that claim. Care to take a look?

[brooklynite]

136. I don't need to, because I don't care...

If she want to pick a preferred candidate, what difference does it make?

[oasis]

138. You "don't care" about getting your information straight

before making a judgement about my opinion? Alrighty then

[brooklynite]

139. I don't care because I don't watch political opinion shows.

It’s easier than trying to find the opinions I already agree with.

Question: if she was a Biden supporter, would you be complaining about bias and propaganda?

[oasis]

141. To me, Biden's our best hope to win the WH.

I would rather Joy not make subtle digs at him like "do America's voters want to cling to nostagia, or do the want to move forward?"

Come General Election 2020, Biden vs. Trump, Joy had better damn well be in whole hearted support of Biden.

On a side note, I agree 100% with your position on reparations being a loser for 2020 Democrats.

So we at least have that to build on.

[aikoaiko]

127. This is how she rolls during the Democratic primary.

She has her favorite and the maligns others.

[oasis]

132. How dumb to damage the most likely Democratic nominee. Joy

should know better.

[emmaverybo]

133. Was reading a WaPo political commentary on the debate. What was interesting were the comments

following it.

Despite the article’s congratulatory tone for Harris’s debate performance, the majority of well over a thousand comments in response criticized her tactics. One responder mentioned that across online news sites, she was often finding that while a news piece was laudatory to Harris and trashed Biden, reading audiences weren’t necessarily “going with the program.”

Now the news headlines and tv programs are stating that Joe has apologized for the “segregationist remarks” he made when he “praised two segregationists.”

I’ve already had to shut off MSNBC for the day, even before Joy, as a frequent guest continued to
raise doubts about Biden’s record, turning now to his recent comments about the 1994 crime bill in South Carolina, deeming them self-serving, an example that he still refuses to accept responsibility for his disastrous legacy.

Interestingly, an audience of two hundred, predominantly black South Carolinians roared their approval at the speech’s end.

Go figure.

[oasis]

137. I saw the outrageous MSNBC "segregationist" banner yesterday

and my mouth. Dunno what to think except MSM wants a horse race so they need to take Joe down a peg or two.

[emmaverybo]

140. Makes me mad, but then I remember being mad day and night at Obama coverage in 2008,

probably the most unfair I have ever seen. Once they got hold of Reverend Wright they could not
control themselves. And they did not bother to even find out who Wright was, listen to the entire
speech, put it in context, interview any supporters. They built an ugly anti-Obama campaign around guilt by association.
It is what they do.
Gawd give me a thicker skin and give Joe the strength to plough on.

[oasis]

142. Sometimes it appears we only have DU to turn to when MSM

goes to those extremes to boost their revenue. Staying positive is the best medicine.

"Keep the faith my children don'tcha get weary, we'll get to the promised land some day" the words of the late, Adam Clayton Powell can be applied to the issues of today.

[emmaverybo]

143. Thank you. NT

[TSIAS]

145. The irony here has me LOLing

Everyone at DU loved Joy Reid when she spent her time attacking Sanders. Now that she's critical of another candidate she's suddenly awful.

You know who else thinks Joy Reid is awful? Glenn Greenwald.

The troubling aspect in this thread, whichever candidate you support, is that its the job of a journalist to help a politician win or lose an election. Joy isnt a particularly great journalist, but you can't blame her if Trump is reelected.

[oasis]

147. Joy's on TV probation at my house. Today, Women's Soccer caused

me to limit my monitoring her level of Kamalalove/Bidenintolerance.

Joy should channel Michele Obama and stay the hell out of the Democratic primary favoritism game.

[R B Garr]

149. Actually, she is not for any white men, as has also

been noted in this thread, and especially as you listen to her lately. Especially older white men. She’s only singling out Biden now because his polling numbers stand in the way of Kamala.

[Gothmog]

148. I turned AMJOY off yesterday