Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMorning Joe badgers Democratic candidate: Are you a capitalist? He ends with the perfect answer.
Joe Scarborough gave his best attempt to get former governor John Hickenlooper to say he is a Capitalist. Hickenlooper though awkward in his response initially, finally got it right after Scarborough badgered him several times.
https://egbertowillies.com/2019/03/09/morning-joe-capitalist-john-hickenlooper/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CrossingTheRubicon
(731 posts)Have a shot at the nomination.
This is not the "Democratic Socialist" Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,832 posts)socialism? We lose. Elizabeth Warren has identified herself as a progressive capitalist, capitalism with regulations/guardrails. That is the appropriate, reasonable answer. Not skirting the issue or trying to play to all sides. Because socialism is a losing meme, period. And Elizabeth Warren is smart enough to know that. Kamala Harris has said pretty much the same. Brava to both of them!
Simply put: Americans are not socialists. We can talk about a mixed economy which is what we actually have. But the namby-pamby, "I don't like labels?" That will not fly because it sounds as if you're trying to avoid an actual answer. Which is exactly what Hickenlooper is doing here in an awkward and disingenuous manner.
It. Does. Not. Work.
And it's really rotten politics. Particularly in an era when the lack of transparency is unforgivable.
If you're a socialist? Okay then, spit it out. But if not, stop the lame tap dancing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)badgering the guy. It was borderline bullying and that is not particularly compelling in a debate.
Let the guy explain. Just the term "socialist" doesn't really say much. There are all different kinds of socialists. All by itself it is kind of a useless term. I kinda like "progressive capitalist."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,832 posts)I've seen Scarborough do a hatchet job on people. So I concede the tone of the interview could have been partly responsible.
I did read yesterday that Hickenlooper came out and stated plainly that he was a capitalist with regulations. That leads me to believe that he knew or was given a heads up about how badly that the segment landed.
Live and learn, as they say. The national stage is brutal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
David__77
(23,421 posts)They both have their place.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)perhaps? We are mostly a capitalist society with socialist aspects.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,421 posts)Some people want it to be more or less capitalist in nature. I dont need candidates I support to uphold the ideology of capitalism or of socialism. I care about the policies they advocate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)But Joe Scar would have none of it and kept repeating his question/accusation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)That would put the burden on Joe to answer yes or no, neither of which is a "good" answer for Joe. And Dems watching at home would cheer...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)is like taking a stand on using EITHER all nails OR all screws.
It's even sillier, and profoundly more dangerous, when people start mistaking it for a moral issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Hickenlooper, and all Dems, need to be prepared before going on talk shows where the hosts are raging egotists like Joe. It was a waste of an interview.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Outside of Fox, he promoted Trump more than any other MSM newscaster, and now he has started the 'socialist boogieman' scare that he warned RW media would be all over. Yup - it is. And he's them. His Dem conversion was incomplete at best. He is the enemy. Boycott Morning Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Occasionally I'll get up earlier and have my first cup of coffee with him and Mika. I don't like the other shows that are on at that time. I have the morning NY Times that I can peruse while Joe and Mika are gabbing...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)He shot himself in the foot. It was as much of an unforced error as Warren's DNA test. I like Hickenlooper a lot so I was sorry to see him screw up that easy answer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Right approach, right answer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden