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trueblue2007

(17,239 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:24 PM Jun 2019

Guillibrand is REALLY PISSING ME OFF. This is not the GUILLIBRAND HOUR. She is rude !!

I just can't support someone who is not honest. She knows the rules and she is shouting over the others. Her opinions and statements have NOT "turned me on" ..... she just want her voice out there because she is not well known and low in the polls.

This is just my opinion and I hope I'm not seen as Anti-Dem. I love my Dems !!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Guillibrand is REALLY PISSING ME OFF. This is not the GUILLIBRAND HOUR. She is rude !! (Original Post) trueblue2007 Jun 2019 OP
I'm not watching.. good Cha Jun 2019 #1
and there were those who doubted she CHOSE to EXPLOIT the Franken issue.... SO damned obvious hlthe2b Jun 2019 #2
You're sharing my thoughts! no_hypocrisy Jun 2019 #3
did she ever respond to the latest allegation against trump? nt msongs Jun 2019 #7
Actually she has repeatedly called for Trump to resign Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #17
She does act like it's all about ME ME ME. I view her as a selfish person who's only out for herself trueblue2007 Jun 2019 #10
Yep PatSeg Jun 2019 #43
THIS zentrum Jun 2019 #39
She thinks it's junior high dalton99a Jun 2019 #4
No u in her name. nt Tipperary Jun 2019 #5
...But she'll turn on u in a hearbeat. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2019 #19
BAM! BamaRefugee Jun 2019 #37
We're not liking her at all at our house 😕 n/t Liberal Jesus Freak Jun 2019 #6
Couldn't agree more SCantiGOP Jun 2019 #8
Agree! MFM008 Jun 2019 #9
She sounds DESPERATE ! She knows that she is LOW IN THE POLLS & sees this as her only way up trueblue2007 Jun 2019 #11
Absolutely. She is so embarrassing. I almost puked when she lied about how she got elected to mtnsnake Jun 2019 #12
She's too snippy to pull off moral outrage. milestogo Jun 2019 #13
True PatSeg Jun 2019 #44
The DiBlasio/Booker strategy is not working for Kirsten peggysue2 Jun 2019 #14
She made some good points but she was way too Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #53
I guess men are only allowed to interrupt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #15
It might be bearable if she interrupted to say anything besides dflprincess Jun 2019 #21
I guess only men Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #22
Not if they say it as often as Gillibrand does. dflprincess Jun 2019 #23
I don't know about this particular debate but research shows that women are perceived pnwmom Jun 2019 #25
Last night actually PatSeg Jun 2019 #46
De Blasio's comments tended to call out for Dem principles bigbrother05 Jun 2019 #58
That's true PatSeg Jun 2019 #60
Which is about as often as anyone else Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #66
Lol, here we go again. Nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #49
Lol Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #67
She's getting tired of men talking over her. RandySF Jun 2019 #16
Maybe she should try waiting her turn. Drahthaardogs Jun 2019 #18
it's all about ME ME ME..... She has been horrible tonight. trueblue2007 Jun 2019 #20
She's nailing it Generic Brad Jun 2019 #24
Face it; she didn't have a chance. This was her Hail Mary and Mary went off and left the field. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2019 #26
Yes, based on her lack of poll numbers she really needed to make a splash and get noticed. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2019 #51
I hope she is challenged in the next primary. aaaaaa5a Jun 2019 #27
How about AOC? Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #31
Perfect! aaaaaa5a Jun 2019 #33
AOC would never win ValidateThis Jun 2019 #57
Dream on ValidateThis Jun 2019 #56
And it's most obvious leftieNanner Jun 2019 #28
Harris has shown passion Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #34
That's a perfect description of Gillibrand. nt dflprincess Jun 2019 #38
Hmmm. Saw her doing almost the same thing. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #54
She would probably not take advice well from staff. Just saying. Irishxs Jun 2019 #29
That's pretty much how I see it, too - she's speaking up on EVERY question asked of others... George II Jun 2019 #30
totally agree. barbtries Jun 2019 #32
This will likely be her final debate. democratisphere Jun 2019 #35
Hopefully. IluvPitties Jun 2019 #50
She never had traction...didn't get any tonight ashredux Jun 2019 #36
I thought she looked like a self-important high school mean girl. rainin Jun 2019 #40
I have never liked her and I find her incredibly annoying. nt Mars and Minerva Jun 2019 #41
Get over your hate of KG. bornsunny Jun 2019 #42
Very few of the critics tonight mentioned Franken Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #52
TOTALLY agree Raine Jun 2019 #45
She was very rude, and I'll be happy to not hear her voice again... blue neen Jun 2019 #47
I don't think she's any ruder than some others. MarvinGardens Jun 2019 #48
She's as wonky as Paul Ryan, i.e. all an act bigbrother05 Jun 2019 #61
After Al Franken I can't with her. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #55
Notice that she blinks a lot when she talks Perseus Jun 2019 #59
DiBlasio interrupted all night long last night and people said he was forceful and passionate. TeamPooka Jun 2019 #62
He was rude too. meadowlander Jun 2019 #64
I never cared much for Gillibrand. And I still don't. TryLogic Jun 2019 #63
She'll be gone soon enough. RhodeIslandOne Jun 2019 #65
 

Cha

(297,692 posts)
1. I'm not watching.. good
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:26 PM
Jun 2019

to know, trueblue.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)
2. and there were those who doubted she CHOSE to EXPLOIT the Franken issue.... SO damned obvious
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jun 2019

it is all about ME ME ME

If I were to vote in a presidential
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no_hypocrisy

(46,192 posts)
3. You're sharing my thoughts!
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

msongs

(67,443 posts)
7. did she ever respond to the latest allegation against trump? nt
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:29 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
17. Actually she has repeatedly called for Trump to resign
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:59 PM
Jun 2019

as well as having the most anti-Trump vote record in the Senate.

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trueblue2007

(17,239 posts)
10. She does act like it's all about ME ME ME. I view her as a selfish person who's only out for herself
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:37 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
43. Yep
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:09 PM
Jun 2019

She is an extremely ambitious politician and it really shows. If she'd just interrupted one time, it might not have bothered me, but she did it over and over again. Not an appealing trait in someone who wants to President of the United States.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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dalton99a

(81,590 posts)
4. She thinks it's junior high
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jun 2019

So annoying and loathsome

If I were to vote in a presidential
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TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
19. ...But she'll turn on u in a hearbeat.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jun 2019

Ask Al Franken.

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Undecided
 

Liberal Jesus Freak

(1,451 posts)
6. We're not liking her at all at our house 😕 n/t
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:29 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
8. Couldn't agree more
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:30 PM
Jun 2019

Moderators need to shut her up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MFM008

(19,820 posts)
9. Agree!
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:31 PM
Jun 2019

Shes sounding frantic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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trueblue2007

(17,239 posts)
11. She sounds DESPERATE ! She knows that she is LOW IN THE POLLS & sees this as her only way up
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
12. Absolutely. She is so embarrassing. I almost puked when she lied about how she got elected to
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:41 PM
Jun 2019

a red district in NYS when she was in the House. She got elected to a red district in NYS by cozying up to the NRA as a pro-gun candidate, AND she was anti-immigration back then as well. Sickening.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
13. She's too snippy to pull off moral outrage.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jun 2019

She tries, but it doesn't work.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
44. True
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:11 PM
Jun 2019

And I have to say, I'm really getting tired of faux moral outrage from politicians.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
14. The DiBlasio/Booker strategy is not working for Kirsten
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jun 2019

She's coming across desperate rather than strong, rude rather than passionate. A good part of this is gender-bias. But it is what it is.

That being said, I'm sure Gillibrand feels she has nothing to lose at this point. She's getting her voice heard, one way or the other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
53. She made some good points but she was way too
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:40 PM
Jun 2019

tone deaf on the interrupting. I am tired of yellers. Mayor Pete really stood out. He never yelled and didn't act shaky and frantic. People think it's appealing but it's not to the average person. They want a calm thoughtful person not the Energizer bunny.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
15. I guess men are only allowed to interrupt
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:54 PM
Jun 2019

Just as only men are allowed inappropriate behavior toward women especially if they are a white guy TV star.

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dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
21. It might be bearable if she interrupted to say anything besides
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jun 2019

"I, I, I, me, me, me."

Harris just ignored Todd trying to shut her down and (I thought) she came off well.

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Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
22. I guess only men
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jun 2019

are allowed to say I and me.

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dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
23. Not if they say it as often as Gillibrand does.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jun 2019

We already have a narcissist in the White House, we don't need another one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
25. I don't know about this particular debate but research shows that women are perceived
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:39 PM
Jun 2019

to be interrupting more than they really are, and men less.

And when women are assertive, they are perceived differently than when men are.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
46. Last night actually
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:15 PM
Jun 2019

it was de Blasio who did a lot of butting in, but I know what you mean about women being perceived differently than men.

Tonight, I found Gillibrand to be excessively rude, which made it hard to actually listen to what she had to say.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
58. De Blasio's comments tended to call out for Dem principles
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:55 PM
Jun 2019

As noted it was her way of inserting herself in the conversation with no other purpose.

Context will not favor her performance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
60. That's true
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:59 PM
Jun 2019

It looked like "Me, me, me, call on me!!!" I think she went into the debate expecting to be marginalized and was determined not to be ignored. Not a great way to get attention, especially in a presidential race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
66. Which is about as often as anyone else
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:09 AM
Jun 2019

Perception vs reality

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
49. Lol, here we go again. Nt
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:32 PM
Jun 2019
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Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
67. Lol
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:10 AM
Jun 2019

Sad that truth and fairness is so disturbing to some

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RandySF

(59,238 posts)
16. She's getting tired of men talking over her.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:55 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
18. Maybe she should try waiting her turn.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jun 2019

She is rude.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

trueblue2007

(17,239 posts)
20. it's all about ME ME ME..... She has been horrible tonight.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:18 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
24. She's nailing it
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jun 2019

Nailing her electability coffin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
26. Face it; she didn't have a chance. This was her Hail Mary and Mary went off and left the field. nt
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:40 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
51. Yes, based on her lack of poll numbers she really needed to make a splash and get noticed. n/t
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
27. I hope she is challenged in the next primary.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ValidateThis

(87 posts)
57. AOC would never win
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:52 PM
Jun 2019

statewide office in New York. Outside the city NY is much more conservative.

Gillibrand owns that senate seat until she decides toleave it. She is popular in NY.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ValidateThis

(87 posts)
56. Dream on
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:50 PM
Jun 2019

She’s quite well liked by New Yorkers as a senator and provides excellent constituent service and votes the will of her supporters. She’s going to be a NY senator for many terms and the nastiness towards her here feels super sexist. I’m not supporting her for president but lol at the idea of primarying her. In your dreams.

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Undecided
 

leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
28. And it's most obvious
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jun 2019

When you compare her to Kamala Harris.

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Bradshaw3

(7,529 posts)
34. Harris has shown passion
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:48 PM
Jun 2019

Gillibrand, as another poster said, has acted like the annoying kid in class waving their hand, saying "me, me me teacher".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
38. That's a perfect description of Gillibrand. nt
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:57 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
54. Hmmm. Saw her doing almost the same thing.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:42 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Irishxs

(622 posts)
29. She would probably not take advice well from staff. Just saying.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
30. That's pretty much how I see it, too - she's speaking up on EVERY question asked of others...
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jun 2019

...it's embarrassing.

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barbtries

(28,811 posts)
32. totally agree.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:48 PM
Jun 2019

this must have been her plan, to dominate the debate. but it's really disrespectful and fuck her because Al Franken anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
35. This will likely be her final debate.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:49 PM
Jun 2019


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ashredux

(2,609 posts)
36. She never had traction...didn't get any tonight
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:50 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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rainin

(3,011 posts)
40. I thought she looked like a self-important high school mean girl.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jun 2019

From what I saw, the rest of the panel (minus the love girl author on the end) did well. We have such great candidates!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Mars and Minerva

(369 posts)
41. I have never liked her and I find her incredibly annoying. nt
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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bornsunny

(32 posts)
42. Get over your hate of KG.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:08 PM
Jun 2019

She did nothing wrong and she wasn't rude. OK so she pressured Franken out of the Senate. Like move on already!

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Bradshaw3

(7,529 posts)
52. Very few of the critics tonight mentioned Franken
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:39 PM
Jun 2019

They commented on her performance in the debate. She did interrupt repeatedly and was rude.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Raine

(30,540 posts)
45. TOTALLY agree
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:11 PM
Jun 2019

I got so tired of her butting in, she was so annoying.

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blue neen

(12,328 posts)
47. She was very rude, and I'll be happy to not hear her voice again...
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:29 PM
Jun 2019

for quite a long time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
48. I don't think she's any ruder than some others.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:31 PM
Jun 2019

Talking past time limits and over the debate moderators, etc. They want to get their point across and are very competetive about it. It's practically the norm in presidential debates.

That being said, she comes across as wonky and not charismatic enough. It's not going to be her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
61. She's as wonky as Paul Ryan, i.e. all an act
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:00 AM
Jun 2019

Learn some insider phrases and try to sound earnest doesn’t equal credibility.

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gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
55. After Al Franken I can't with her.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jun 2019

She also comes across as a bit distant.

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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
59. Notice that she blinks a lot when she talks
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:59 PM
Jun 2019

Once she stops talking the blinking stops.

According to studies, people who blink repeatedly when they talk is because they are lying.

In her defense to your comment, they do that because they are not being called, and they need the cameras. Bill de Blasio did that yesterday but he was very effective when he did, Gillibrand was just, Gillibrand.

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TeamPooka

(24,256 posts)
62. DiBlasio interrupted all night long last night and people said he was forceful and passionate.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:02 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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meadowlander

(4,406 posts)
64. He was rude too.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:06 AM
Jun 2019

Shouting over each other for attention makes the whole field look like clowns.

A+ to Kamala Harris - we're not here to watch a food fight.

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TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
63. I never cared much for Gillibrand. And I still don't.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:10 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
65. She'll be gone soon enough.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:42 AM
Jun 2019

She's wasting money.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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