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Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:20 PM Jun 2019

To whom do you give the Session 1 hook?

All of this is my opinion and worth what you paid for it.

To be sure, almost any of this crowd could do the job. The issue now is WINNING.

Group One - No Chance to Win
John Delaney
Bill DeBlasio
Jay Inslee
Tim Ryan
Tulsi Gabbard

Group Two - Carry On but chances are between slim and none
Beto O'Rourke
Amy Klobuchar (who was my very first pick to support)
Julian Castro

Tonight's Winners
Corey Booker - Runner Up

Elizabeth Warren - The clear winner by a wide margin

And for the record, this is my second Primaries post, the first being something inane when the forum first opened.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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To whom do you give the Session 1 hook? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jun 2019 OP
My list is close to yours Lefta Dissenter Jun 2019 #1
My "out list" is the same as yours. MontanaMama Jun 2019 #5
Vastronwere? cannabis_flower Jun 2019 #23
She meant "Castro were." She is probably typing on a little tablet . nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #27
Oh crap! MontanaMama Jun 2019 #33
If I never see Mr Delaney again, I'll be happy tishaLA Jun 2019 #2
But.. but.. Matthews thought deBlasio won question everything Jun 2019 #3
Tweety is ridiculous. MontanaMama Jun 2019 #7
Wish Tweety could be given a permanent hook. A Big F minus. n/t MarcA Jun 2019 #10
Yeah, I actually used to like Castro, but now I can't stand him after tonight Indygram Jun 2019 #14
I agree with the no-chance list. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #4
Just my opinion, but DiBlasio was the big surprise, good old school democratic answers. EarnestPutz Jun 2019 #6
Almost same as yours, just promote Gabbard and Castro one level each. Eom. tarheelsunc Jun 2019 #8
Obviously, I think that Klobucahr was the best. Steady, no fireworks sticking to policy question everything Jun 2019 #9
Klobuchar had a really strong debate, she went after Rump too Celerity Jun 2019 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Jun 2019 #11
Not Bad colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #12
I disagree about Gabbard. She is on Breibart right after the debates. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #25
I thought Tim Ryan did well Generic Brad Jun 2019 #15
Me too,..and people go by ideolgy but they should also consider geography. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #26
really curious why you claim "Warren will not win the rurallib Jun 2019 #30
She has been branded East Coast and will be branded big spending socialist byTrump/GOP. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #31
Not sure why Klobachar isn't liked by more. ooky Jun 2019 #16
As I said in the OP, she was the first person I supported, even before she or anyone announced Stinky The Clown Jun 2019 #17
Understood. ooky Jun 2019 #22
Rachel Maddow likes her a lot . i think she got a bad deal with those stories about how tough she JI7 Jun 2019 #19
I think that you are right about the alleged staff issues. ooky Jun 2019 #21
John Delaney Captain Zero Jun 2019 #18
Elizabeth Warren, by far. I'm fairly in alignment with the rest of your picks as well. However... Hekate Jun 2019 #20
I think Booker is out unless he gets a bump. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #24
Warren and booker the rest pick a side and Watchfoxheadexplodes Jun 2019 #28
My take Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #29
Interesting take. I don't disagree. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #32
I hope people pay attention to people like my relative. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #34
 

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
1. My list is close to yours
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:23 PM
Jun 2019

I just made teeny donations to Warren, Booker and Castro.

De Blasio, Ryan, Gabbard and Delaney are out for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MontanaMama

(23,333 posts)
5. My "out list" is the same as yours.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jun 2019

The only advantage to DiBlasio is the ass whooping he’d give MF45 in a one on one debate. I thought Warren and Vastronwere very impressive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tblue37

(65,457 posts)
27. She meant "Castro were." She is probably typing on a little tablet . nt
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 08:41 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MontanaMama

(23,333 posts)
33. Oh crap!
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 11:30 AM
Jun 2019

Voice typing... which always bites me in the butt...I said Castro! I’m sorry for the confusion. I thought Castro was very impressive. Vastronwere should drop out of the race immediately.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
2. If I never see Mr Delaney again, I'll be happy
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:26 PM
Jun 2019

My winners are Warren, Castro, and Booker (in that order)

Most of the rest had goo moments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

question everything

(47,509 posts)
3. But.. but.. Matthews thought deBlasio won
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:26 PM
Jun 2019

Now I know why we no longer listen to him.

Was surprised how Castro went after Beto..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MontanaMama

(23,333 posts)
7. Tweety is ridiculous.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:28 PM
Jun 2019

I think it’s why he's in the “spin room” and not at the big desk upstairs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
10. Wish Tweety could be given a permanent hook. A Big F minus. n/t
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:36 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indygram

(2,113 posts)
14. Yeah, I actually used to like Castro, but now I can't stand him after tonight
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:06 AM
Jun 2019

I'm just glad he will never be the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,782 posts)
4. I agree with the no-chance list.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jun 2019

I'd say Booker is tied for second with Castro. Klobuchar still has a chance, maybe for VP if not the head of the ticket. My fantasy is that she gets either that or a cabinet appointment (AG?) so our governor appoints AL Franken to her empty Senate seat. O'Rourke was a little weaker than I expected; he seemed kind of vague.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
6. Just my opinion, but DiBlasio was the big surprise, good old school democratic answers.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jun 2019

Booker and Castro did well, Gabbard did not. Warren was expected to do very well and she really did. Give her the win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
8. Almost same as yours, just promote Gabbard and Castro one level each. Eom.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:30 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(47,509 posts)
9. Obviously, I think that Klobucahr was the best. Steady, no fireworks sticking to policy
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:31 PM
Jun 2019

But I agree with your "out" list.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,458 posts)
13. Klobuchar had a really strong debate, she went after Rump too
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:02 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

 

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
12. Not Bad
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:01 AM
Jun 2019

I would move Gabbard and Inslee up to group two, Booker down to group 2. Warren scored well not sure she was a clear winner..

I would put Delaney in the no chance in Hell category.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
25. I disagree about Gabbard. She is on Breibart right after the debates.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 08:28 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
15. I thought Tim Ryan did well
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:06 AM
Jun 2019

But, then again, I live in a left behind red state. I guess I’m one of his target voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
26. Me too,..and people go by ideolgy but they should also consider geography.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 08:30 AM
Jun 2019

I like Elizabeth Warren but she wii not win the rustbelt and we have no other path in 20 and probably 24.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rurallib

(62,432 posts)
30. really curious why you claim "Warren will not win the
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:52 AM
Jun 2019
rustbelt ." it is a long time until November 2020.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
31. She has been branded East Coast and will be branded big spending socialist byTrump/GOP.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:36 AM
Jun 2019

I live in Ohio. But the same hold true in the blue wall states (PA, WI and MI). We must win three states to stop Trump...those mentioned previously. I can tell you MFA does not play at all here. They are already running commercials about taking away health care...a Warren nomination would be a disaster as we would lose badly. We would also lose any chance at the Senate (moderate coattails) and I am not sure our House majority would survive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ooky

(8,926 posts)
16. Not sure why Klobachar isn't liked by more.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:23 AM
Jun 2019

I think she comes across strong and thoughtful every time I see her. Tonight was no exception. If she was showing any kind of support she'd be my favorite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
17. As I said in the OP, she was the first person I supported, even before she or anyone announced
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 01:03 AM
Jun 2019

I still like her and for most of the same reasons.

I ranked her as I did based on her ability to win the nomination and go on to beat Trump. That said, I still feel very good about her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ooky

(8,926 posts)
22. Understood.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 02:07 AM
Jun 2019

I also initially supported her as well but backed off some until I can better judge if she's electable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,259 posts)
19. Rachel Maddow likes her a lot . i think she got a bad deal with those stories about how tough she
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 01:35 AM
Jun 2019

on her staff. a lot of sexism with that also.

i do find her very likable also.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ooky

(8,926 posts)
21. I think that you are right about the alleged staff issues.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 02:04 AM
Jun 2019

I've hoped she can overcome that rap and move past it in the primaries. I think she could be a good general election candidate in the battleground states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Captain Zero

(6,819 posts)
18. John Delaney
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 01:26 AM
Jun 2019

Needs to keep his day job, and go back to it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hekate

(90,751 posts)
20. Elizabeth Warren, by far. I'm fairly in alignment with the rest of your picks as well. However...
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 01:40 AM
Jun 2019

Don't you just hate it when Tweety, Toady, Donny D, and Brian Williams all get going? Brian boasting about how all week he had bets going that the candidates would all pile on Joe Biden, and he was amazed that they didn't? Gimme a break!

Oh, and the aforementioned (as Brian would say) all agreed that Trump was He Who Shall Not Be Named and hardly got mentioned at all. Um, what? They are all running against Trump; he was mentioned by name several times; and his abominable policies were referred to many times.

These people are 3 parts infuriating and 1 part embarrassing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
24. I think Booker is out unless he gets a bump.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 08:26 AM
Jun 2019

My list is the same other than that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
28. Warren and booker the rest pick a side and
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:09 AM
Jun 2019

Get out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. My take
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:18 AM
Jun 2019

As much as I like a couple of them, none of the candidates on the stage will win a general election against Trump, and only Warren has a slim chance of winning the nomination.

Everyone but Warren and Klobuchar needs to give up the ghost.

I include Klobuchar not because of her numbers, but clearly she is above the pack and is the quality female candidate I have been waiting for for decades. Even an independent relative, who watched just a part of the debate with me, wanted to know who she was, and was impressed by her. He thought the others were clowns and have no chance of winning a Presidential election...including Warren, of whom he said, "Oh,,,,that's Pocahontas, right?" (don't shoot the messenger...I swear that's what he said)

Ones he singled out..."Who's the bald guy?" I had to say that I didn't know; it wasn't Booker. My relative said, "I've never seen any candidate with so little presence before. Why is on the stage?" He thought Booker was weird. Klobuchar seemed Presidential and was cute. Warren is irritating. DeBlasio "Oh, that's the NY mayor. Yeah, they don't like him in NY. Why is he running?"

He knew who Beto was and had neither a good nor bad impression of him. I was unimpressed...his greenness was apparent. He's not ready for prime time. But as a VP? Maybe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
32. Interesting take. I don't disagree.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:40 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. I hope people pay attention to people like my relative.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jun 2019

He really is an Independent. He leans Republican, but he HATES Trump. He is NOT a Republican. He really does agree with some liberal policies, and with some conservative ones. He did NOT vote in 2016. Why? He didn't want to vote for Trump, and he didn't like Hillary. In retrospect, he regrets not voting. He had no idea Trump would be as bad as he turned out to be.

He wants to vote Democratic, but he likely won't make it to the polls if the Democratic candidate is "weird," in his eyes. If the Democrats select someone who is not too far left, is more of a normal person, who has some leadership abilities and is reasonably likable....he'll show up to vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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