Can we please, on these pages, stop calling a candidate a "teflon?"

[question everything]

This, of course, was what Reagan was.

[aidbo]

1. calling a politician "teflon" does not make me want to vote for them

[SouthernProgressive]

3. How does that work.

Some posters use the word "teflon" with someone and it has an impact on your voting preference? Sounds really strange to me.

[aidbo]

12. Really? you need this explained?

smh

[SouthernProgressive]

14. Yes. How does an innocuous word used on a discussion forum alters ones voting preference?

I don't think there is an explanation for such a thing. At least not one that is straight forward and honest. It defies logic.

[LanternWaste]

15. It's important we let the benign names directly influence our vote

Otherwise, we may have to being thinking rationally and for ourselves, independent of others' opinions.

[SouthernProgressive]

2. Never heard of Reagan referred to as "Teflon Reagan."

Learn something new each day.

I can't find a problem with calling a candidate "teflon." I don't think dead ass Reagan has ownership rights on the word.

When someone has bogus smear after bogus smear launched at them, and they have little to no impact, teflon seems like the appropriate word.

[MiniMe]

6. All the time, nothing ever stuck to him

Ketchup is a vegetable. Cutting taxes will increase revenues

He came up with a lot of crap in his alzheimers mind that made no sense, and it would just slide right off of him.

[sacto95834]

7. Teflon

Wow, you must be young. I remember almost all the Analysts calling Ray-gun that.

I really disliked RR, it took me decades to figure out why so many people liked him so.

[SouthernProgressive]

10. Doesn't sound like a bad thing for a candidate of ours. NT

[Celerity]

19. Teflon-coated presidency (Rep. Pat Schroeder (D-CO) coined it for Reagan in 1983)

https://politicaldictionary.com/words/teflon-coated-presidency/

A president’s ability to deflect charges of corruption or scandal.

The term originally was coined by Rep. Pat Schroeder (D-CO) when she took to the House floor in 1983 and said of President Ronald Reagan: “He has been perfecting the Teflon-coated presidency: He sees to it that nothing sticks to him.”

Writing in USA Today two decades later, Schroeder explained she “got the idea of calling President Reagan the ‘Teflon president’ while fixing eggs for my kids. He had a Teflon coat like the pan.”

Steve Kornacki notes Schroeder’s characterization “was meant to be disparaging, but in coining the term ‘Teflon president,’ Schroeder actually identified a significant phenomenon in politics — the willingness of voters to excuse in some politicians shortcomings that they wouldn’t accept in most others.”

snip

[BannonsLiver]

24. John Gotti was called the Teflon Don

It’s been used on other contexts which I guess would come as a surprise to the OP.

[peggysue2]

4. Yes, Reagan was the Teflon Prez

He also won (ahem) two long terms. And this time out?

WINNING IS EVERYTHING

I don't find the 'teflon' moniker terribly offensive. Because our nominee is going to need that armor to withstand the garbage assault awaiting him/her (in this case Biden) in 2020.

Here's my wish: that all our candidates develop a teflon and/or kevlar surface. Because they're going to need it to survive the campaign. This is going to get wa-a-y more ugly as we approach the actual election.

So, strap it on now! And be happy you have it.

[Peacetrain]

11. Well the younger supporters of VP Biden would not know that was Reagans nickname

kevlar.. there you go..

[peggysue2]

16. Then I guess us oldsters need to educate them

But then, Kevlar Joe works just as well, peacetrain.

[LongtimeAZDem]

21. Bulletproof Biden

[jberryhill]

27. Jesus

Please consider deleting.

[DrToast]

5. How about "Cast Iron Joe"

Doesn't quite have the same ring.

[wyldwolf]

8. Actually sounds better to me.

[CrispyQ]

13. Excellent.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. It's MC Joe or Master Of Ceremonies Of Joe for me.

[TwilightZone]

17. Pretty sure it was done as a joke.

The poster who was using it is mocking the nicknames given to Biden by Trump and others, like "sleepy" or "creepy" Joe.

[D23MIURG23]

18. Can we please stop trying to micromanage how other people talk about things?

It's weird and authoritarian. If you don't think some description is apt, just explain why.

For example: I don't think Vermin Supreme merits the name "teflon vermin" because he has a bunch of scandals that don't go away, and his head boot doesn't seem particularly smooth.

If you argument seems to hold water, probably fewer people will engage in what you consider a mischaracterization.

On the other hand, I've never read a thread pleading with me to "please stop saying X" and felt inclined to make the change being requested. I'm not going to change my way of speaking about things as a personal favor to you.

[Celerity]

23. Vermin Supreme finishes fourth in N.H. Democratic primaries

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vermin-supreme-finishes-fourth-in-new-hampshire-democratic-primary/

roflmaooooooo

[jberryhill]

28. Even HE gets a toothbrush

[Celerity]

29. +10000

first thing I thought of after I posted it

but didn't want to edit

[cwydro]

20. Who the hell cares?

Meantime, I thought you were all concerned with Buttigieg’s whereabouts...

[Celerity]

30. +1

[loyalsister]

22. Yeah

It could also refer to a candidate who could shoot someone and still get elected. It's not exactly a good thing to have a constinuency with low standards.

[Indygram]

25. I've heard people say Trump is made of teflon too

eom

[Mike Nelson]

26. I've heard the expression used for...

… Bill Clinton and Crooked Donald, too. But Crooked Don has never been popular...

[Politicub]

31. Here is a new guideline to consider:

I’m like rubber.
You’re like glue.
Bounces off me. Sticks to you.

This should clear up all of the issues with Teflon.