**Brand Spanking New Mississippi Poll** MC Joe 50% Bernie 7% Elizabeth 7%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

http://www.millsaps.edu/_resources/documents/2019-june-millsaps-chism-pre-debate-survey.pdf

[shanny]

1. Mississippi. Democratic hotbed.

Alert the media!

[JI7]

2. it is during the primary which is mostly black voters

[shanny]

31. In a state that hasn't gone Democratic

since Jimmy Carter--and that was a squeaker.

That was my only point. An exercise in futility, just like several of the states I've lived in.

[JI7]

36. Black Voters do go Democratic in the GE . Do you think we should only hold Primary in states which

are blue in the GE ?

that just makes no sense.

Alabama wont go blue in a presidential election but black voters there helped to keep the child molestor out by voting for the democratic candidate for Senate.

[honest.abe]

40. That poster is desperate to downplay any good news about Biden.

That is an exercise in futility!

[LongtimeAZDem]

72. This

[honest.abe]

38. You really do need a lesson in primaries!

https://www.britannica.com/topic/primary-election

[Midwestocrat]

5. Uh... it's the primary. So... yes, actually.

And there's an actually competitive governor's race THIS YEAR, with really strong contender Democratic Attorney General Jim Hood.

[Cha]

7. Thank You for that positive news aobut Mississippi.

[JI7]

37. yup, it's unlikely they will go blue in presidential elections

but in some governors and senate elections we do have chances of going blue.

and that's where we have to start if we want to go blue nationally.

and as we have seen with the ACA and other issues having state power helps when a republican is in the white house.

[Cha]

6. Oh, you don't think much of The Democratic Voters

in Mississippi, shanny?

Your snide remarks on positive Biden Threads aren't helpful.. they only tend to backfire.

[cwydro]

54. Weird.

Isn’t it?

[Cha]

99. That's one word for it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. "It is during the primary which is mostly black voters."

[nolabear]

9. You insult a great number of good people with your prejudgment.

You might want to rethink that.

[George II]

10. This is a poll about the PRIMARY to get delegates for the convention. Would Warren reject any....

....that she wins in Mississippi?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. The Dalai Lama would not approve.

You hurt a great number of good people with your prejudgment.

You might want to rethink that.

[TwilightZone]

14. Has anyone mentioned that this is a primary?

Yes? Well, good.

[Drunken Irishman]

21. Well considering in the 2016 primary, 71% of the voters were black...

I think it's an important indicator.

[SouthernProgressive]

24. How did this one work out for ya? NT

[Demsrule86]

45. Veiled threats...

I wonder how Stein fels today with the drowned 23 month old...no difference in parties after all...sarcasm.

[redstateblues]

27. Warren is surging!

[honest.abe]

41. The Democrat Who Could Be Mississippi's Next Governor

If any Democrat can be elected governor of Mississippi, it’s Jim Hood. The state’s four-term attorney general is the only Democrat who has won a statewide race in Mississippi in the last 16 years. That’s one reason Republicans are taking him seriously.

https://www.governing.com/topics/politics/gov-south-governor-democrat-mississippi-jim-hood.html

[LanternWaste]

75. Irrelevant response! Don't bother alerting the media, though...

It's not really news anymore.

[FloridaBlues]

3. Wow 50% the highest yet.

[Midwestocrat]

4. BOOOOM!!

Only in the progressive bubble -thus far- is this primary even close. That could change... but, I don't see it.

[Scurrilous]

11. K&R

Biden Crushing It In Mississippi

https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/25/biden-crushing-it-in-mississippi/

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. It's over.

This clinches it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. You can lead a horse to the well....

"



This clinches it.


."

[Demsrule86]

34. Pretty much. And that is a good thing. Biden can win...there are more moderates in our party than

left of left...win some hearts and minds is my suggestion. Perhaps instead of going after sitting Democrats, some could target Republican seats and work to change folks opinions.

[Skya Rhen]

16. Thanks - this proves that Biden will likely win all of the Southern states and rack up the

delegates, thereby winning the primaries. Then, off to defeating Trump in the general...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Some posters are suggesting the south doesn't matter

I hope it has nothing to do with the demographics.

[TwilightZone]

18. Some made the same assertions in 2016.

The claim then was that it's because they're red states we can't win in the general, but it's highly dismissive, regardless.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. It really is a bad look for those who engage in that line of thought.

[TwilightZone]

20. Agreed.

[Skya Rhen]

22. But they need to realize that their candidate needs to win the Primaries first. Without the South,

among other states, their candidate loses. Oh, well...

[TwilightZone]

42. Agreed, it never made much sense.

I always got the impression that they thought there was a path to the nomination without "those" states, but the math didn't tend to agree.

[treestar]

32. It's insulting

For Democrats in a state like Mississippi, this is their only chance to have a say.

[Demsrule86]

33. I heard that in 16...somewhere. Thanks for the post.

[Kahuna7]

35. I'll never forget that the formerly lovely, Mr. Tim Robbins rolled that one out...

I used to be a fan. Then many Bernie supporters immediately latched on to it.

[LanternWaste]

79. Their "she won the confederacy" routine was called out two years ago...

so they're going with the "primary votes don't matter" routine. Just as absurd as premise, but with none of the character reveals "plantation mentality" brought with it.

[oasis]

23. Mississippi? I guess local folk never fell for the Sen.Eastland "nothing burger".

Smart people.

[Skya Rhen]

25. True...

[still_one]

26. I always thought Sanders would do well in the South

[redstateblues]

28. The anti Joe talking heads will still be saying

“It’s still early”

[joshcryer]

29. AA people will decide the primary.

Just as they did in 2016.

[quickesst]

30. Awkward Moment

When someone posts hysterically laughing smileys and sarcastically proclaims "that clinches it", then it dawns on them that it really does clinch it.

[honest.abe]

39. Wow.. thats a good sign for Biden in the south.

He will likely run the table in the deep south states.

[Autumn]

43. Joe polling 50% in a state he has no chance of winning in the GE. Alert the media!

[honest.abe]

44. So Democrats in Mississippi don't matter??

Would you prefer we only allow blue states to participate in the Democratic primary?

[Autumn]

46. Nice read of what was never said. I said a Democrat will not win in the GE, Joe can poll 100%

but it won't go in a win column for the Democrats. Get it?

[honest.abe]

47. Why does that matter?

We are talking about a Democratic primary decided by Democrats... all Democrats. Get it?

[Autumn]

49. The primary leads to the GE. The goal is to win the White House and get

rid of the orange asshole.

[honest.abe]

57. What does that have to do with the significance of the Mississippi primary??

[Autumn]

59. How does it not have everything to do with it? The only reason for a primary is the GE.

It's not a beauty contest.

[honest.abe]

61. So are you saying the opinion of voters in Mississippi is less than voters in bluer states??

[Autumn]

63. No,I did not say that but nice try. Done here.

[honest.abe]

67. Glad to hear you are done.

Your comments are not helpful.

[treestar]

69. You certainly implied it

[TwilightZone]

48. All Democrats contribute to determining the eventual nominee.

Not just the ones you think are important.

[Autumn]

51. It's not a matter of importance, every state gets to vote in the primary. When was the last

time a Democrat won Mississippi?

[ucrdem]

53. Hillary won 80% of MS delegates in 2016

33 to Bernie's 7:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MS-D

[Autumn]

55. Did she carry Mississippi in the GE? That's the "poll" that matters. nt

[ucrdem]

56. She got to the GE, which is the first step.

[Autumn]

58. The goal is to win the White House, not a popularity contest. nt

[ucrdem]

62. Yes but the process requires winning the consent of the people.

That's democracy for ya.

[Autumn]

64. I'll save my excitement for when a Dem actually wins Mississippi in a GE. nt

[LanternWaste]

77. Then your purpose on this thread in trivializing the polling data is exactly what?

I'm not near as clever or rational as you, and the relevance of your point to the OP eludes me. I imagine you could explain clearly, or simply make another excuse. Your call, of course.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

80. The Mississippi Democratic electorate is seventy percent African American

Do they or do they not have a say in who should be our next president?

[Gothmog]

81. This will be fun to watch

[George II]

90. Apparently not to some.

[Cha]

97. The Mississippi Democratic Electorate definitely

has a vote in our Democratic Primary!

[George II]

83. This is a PRIMARY poll, not a General Election poll. Since a Democrat hasn't won....

...a general election in Mississippi in a long time, should they not participate in choosing the Democratic nominee?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

85. James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner literally gave their lives

James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner literally gave their lives so everybody in Mississippi could vote and have their vote counted.

[Gothmog]

86. Many died to fight for the right to vote

I volunteer a great deal of my time on voter protection issues. The GOP is the party of voter suppression and the GOP can only win elections by cheating and suppressing the vote

[Peacetrain]

87. I cry at the memory of those who gave their lives

Every vote counts.. a huge price has been paid..

[George II]

89. It's a pity that some don't think the voters of Mississippi are as important....

....as voters in other states. The disrespect shown to those people is stunning.

[Cha]

98. Mahalo for reminding us of James, Chaney, Andrew Goodman,

and Michael Schwerner and what they gave for Democracy, DSB.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

100. Displaying contempt for the Mississippi Democratic electorate is a really bad look.

[Peacetrain]

82. A bit gobsmacked here... I do not even quite know where to begin

All elections are popularity contests in a way.. they are popular because people agree with them

[George II]

88. Democratic primaries are "popularity contests"? That's quite disrespectful toward....

....the people of Mississippi (and other states) and Democrats in particular.

[treestar]

70. What has that got to do

With the primary?

[ucrdem]

52. Mississippi has proportional delegate pledging

so every vote will count in their primary which will be on March 10, a week after Super Tuesday:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MS-D

[Autumn]

60. Again and for the last time. When was the last time a Dem won Mississippi in the GE? nt

[ucrdem]

65. The poll in the OP is about the primary. nt

[Autumn]

66. Yes it is, and the primary leads to the GE. When was the last time a Dem won Mississippi

in the GE?

[ucrdem]

68. Carter in 1976, JFK in 1960.

So it happens.

[treestar]

71. The primary does not lead to the GE

it only leads to which candidate will be the nominee. All Democrats get a say no matter what their state does in the GE.

[sheshe2]

102. ...and the times they are a changing.

For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'

Times are a changin'

[LongtimeAZDem]

73. You're right; they don't matter. We shouldn't care about them, and how Democrats in that state

feel is of absolutely no consequence.

/s

[Drunken Irishman]

91. You do know a massively large proportion of Miss. Democratic voters are black, right?

When was the last time a Dem won a presidential election without sizable support from the black community?

[LanternWaste]

76. What is the relevance between the GE and primary polls? (no media alerts necessary)

Or is your simply another attempt to minimize positive polling to make reality more palatable?

[MineralMan]

84. Well, right now, it's all about selecting the Democratic nominee.

Democratic voters in every state get a vote in that choice. I don't understand your dismissal of the voters in Mississippi.

It's not beyond possibility that Mississippi will go Democratic in the general election, either. It has happened before.

Every voter counts, especially in primary elections. Every state sends delegates to the Democratic national convention.

[SouthernProgressive]

94. Seems you don't understand the primaries. NT

[Autumn]

101. I understand the primaries quite well. I also understand how long it's been since a Dem won

the GE in Mississippi.

[ucrdem]

50. Milestone!

First time I've seen Biden at 50% or above.

[LibFarmer]

74. K&R

This means Biden is likely to get all the delegates from Mississippi.

[FakeNoose]

78. OK well this is mainly about name recognition at this point

I'm glad that Biden polled well in Mississippi, but these numbers are all going to change by next week. I'm assuming that at least some Dems in Mississippi are planning to watch the debates tonight and tomorrow. Then let's see how they feel about the candidates. There are so many good Dems on this slate that it's hard to pick a favorite.

[MineralMan]

92. It's unlikely that the debates are going to change

such results very much at all. They will tell some people who are not polling well that they're not polling well, even after the debates, but I doubt they are going to cause large changes in the leaders' poll results.

These numbers from MS are significant. They are an indication of who is supported by AA voters in the deep south. That is going to matter a lot, since those states send a bunch of delegates to the convention.

If their preferred candidate becomes the nominee, that will help to drive up turnout, which could lead to some Democrats winning where they might not have with a lower turnout.

It is all in play.

The South helped Hillary Clinton win the nomination, which put some people who did not support her off their feed in 2016. We may be seeing some of that in this thread, I think.

Onward...

[FakeNoose]

96. I'm sure you're right about that however ...

... I believe Liz Warren will do better in the polls after people hear what she has to say in the debate. I've always thought that Joe Biden would do well, but Liz is killing it right now.

[peggysue2]

93. Curious. Thought we were all on board with a 50-state strategy?

But when it comes to Joe Biden racking up numbers in MS, we should dismiss our primary voters? Sorry, this does not compute.

In order to get to the GE, our candidates need to rack up numbers in the South. Yes, even in Mississippi. Is an MS victory in the GE plausible. Certainly a long-shot at best. But chucking out our voters like yesterday's newspaper is not a good look.

I suspect if it were anyone but Biden, this discussion would be far different. Curious.

[stonecutter357]

95. K&R