Wow! Warren! MoveOn straw poll has her with gigantic lead

[berni_mccoy]

https://front.moveon.org/elizabeth-warren-in-first-place-bernie-sanders-in-second-in-moveons-latest-member-straw-poll%E2%80%A9/

WASHINGTON, DC — Sen. Elizabeth Warren leads a new MoveOn straw poll with the support of 38% of members nationwide, followed by Bernie Sanders with 17%. Warren is also in first place among MoveOn members statewide in the early voting states of Iowa (37%), New Hampshire (38%), Nevada (36%), South Carolina (32%), and California (39%).

Warren is the first or second choice of 63% of MoveOn members nationwide. This represents a substantial shift in MoveOn members’ support toward Warren since the organization conducted its first 2020 Democratic primary straw poll in December 2018. In that straw poll, MoveOn member support was up for grabs, with a plurality of MoveOn members either undecided or supporting a candidate not listed in the poll.

[shanny]

1. Love it! Ranked choice voting tells the tale.

[DCofVA]

2. She's very popular with the base.

And that will be crucial in the upcoming election.

[still_one]

3. The MoveOn Poll represents the base?

[PatrickforO]

10. I'm part of the base, and I've signed a number of MoveOn petitions.

The way I see it, once we've defeated Trump and forced the racists, misogynists, homophobes, xenophobes, and other kluxer or nazi types back under their slimy rocks, we simply cannot go back to business as usual. Expectations are too high.

I want healthcare because I'm sick of having crummy, rationed healthcare with financially crippling copays. I'd be willing to pay A LOT more in taxes for Medicare for All. You see, it doesn't bother me a bit that other people can get great healthcare without having to be wheeled through the accounting department before getting treatment to make sure they can pay. I don't want that for myself, my family or for you and your family. There's no excuse for us not extending healthcare to every single American.

Problem is, we spend more on 'defense' than the next 7 or 8 countries behind us, combined. We have to contract that budget slowly so people working in that industry don't suffer unduly, but it needs to be substantially cut. Healthcare, subsidized childcare, free college - these really ARE the things we need to be spending our tax money on.

And we most definitely need to reverse the giant tax cut for billionaires and corporations, and substantially raise taxes, and then DO stuff with that revenue that actually helps Americans.

Green New Deal? I'm for it. Several of the candidates have very strong environmental policies.

Bottom line....MoveOn does represent a bunch of people, but like any organization in any democratic republic, it doesn't mirror every position I have. And I do not mirror every position MoveOn has.

But most of it? Yes. There's GOT to be some substantive and fairly rapid change around here. NO MORE business as usual. These people we elect need to actually go into office and DO stuff that benefits us.

[SammyWinstonJack]

13. +1000000!

[sop]

30. You've pretty much summarized all my political priorities

[Honeycombe8]

25. It's a poll of MoveOn Members.

MoveOn is a progressive org. I don't know if they would be the base, but they are progressives.

[still_one]

28. I know. It is a progressive PAC with about 3 million members. The Democratic base is made up

of different groups and demographics

[Honeycombe8]

29. Yes. I wonder where most Democrats fall, in the liberal spectrum?

That would be interesting to know.

And which ones vote more reliably.

[still_one]

33. I think the progressive caucus is a good representation of that, but how that translates into

actual numbers or percentages would be interesting to know

[Honeycombe8]

35. I don't think so. I think older ages go more right of far left (in the liberal spectrum).

The older ages wouldn't be greatly represented in the far left wing, I think.

And people self-identify, so hard to say if someone who self-identifies as far left is really far left, or moderate is really moderate.

[still_one]

36. Doesn't the progressive caucus represent the liberal wing for the most part regardless of age?

[Honeycombe8]

37. Yes, but each section of the liberal spectrum would have a prominent age group...

unless it's evenly spread out. People tend to get a tad more conservative as they age, and older people vote more reliably.

But maybe I'll look all this up soon to see if there's any data.

[still_one]

38. True

[CTyankee]

63. Was this a poll of all 3 million members?

I always ask how big a poll (how many people sampled) in order to gauge the Margin of Error. Roughly speaking, the larger the poll the lower the MOE. The smaller the poll, the larger the MOE.

[still_one]

65. Interesting. Have no idea CT. I read your post about lyrica. I hope it is working

and things are better for you. Take care

[CTyankee]

67. I'm feeling fine. The Gabopentin is working. No problems!

[still_one]

69. Good

[Cha]

8. The Democratic Base is our African American

voters.. they always get out and vote Democratic with the highest number of voters. Especially WOC.

[djacq]

12. Waiting for the debates.

Senator Kamala Harris is my number 1.

Senator Elizabeth Warren is still my number 2.

[still_one]

17. The person seems to have a convenient memory of what happened in 2016, and our Democratic nominee

wasn't the one that MoveOn preferred at the time

A MoveOn poll does not necessarily represent the Democratic base. It is a PAC. It has about 3.1 million members.

There are a lot more Democrats in the U.S. than 3 million people

The Democratic party's base is made up of several groups and demographics.

[Cha]

19. Right.. moveon.com is not

"the Democratic Base".. and so far.. not exactly the harbinger of what's to come in the Democratic Primary..

[still_one]

23. ++++++++++++++. Definitely a huge part of it

[Honeycombe8]

26. AA demographic group isn't the only group in the base.

It's the largest group, I'm sure. And some AAs are more conservative (in the liberal spectrum) and would not be considered part of the base.

But I guess it depends on how you define base. It's kinda tricky trying to lump all members of a race or gender together.

[Cha]

27. It's the largest.. right.. those who are the most

loyal by GOTV consistently.

[NurseJackie]

20. Define "base".

[still_one]

31. Lower than tenor and soprano

[crazytown]

50. Lower still

[DarthDem]

51. That Is Genius!

I saw another YouTube vid with that guy. He's a terrific bass player and very funny. Thanks for posting.

[mtnsnake]

55. +1

[George II]

5. MoveOn restricts respondents to their polls to only their own members.

[still_one]

61. an important point!!!!!!!

[left-of-center2012]

6. This is a poll of 'progressives' by 'progressives'

From the OP:
“Warren leads a new MoveOn straw poll with the support of 38% of members”

"MoveOn is a progressive public policy advocacy group and political action committee."

[osmium]

9. This is true. I came here to post that - sans a Wikipedia link. N/T

[left-of-center2012]

14. So it's just a small segment of the party

The 'progressives'.

[still_one]

18. and they don't necesarrily speak for all progressives in the progressive wing of the party

[Skittles]

21. I would hope very one of us is a "progressive"

[left-of-center2012]

34. i think 'progressives' are seen ...

I think 'progressives' are seen as being on the left side of the Democratic 'middle'.
So, there are 'middle-of-the-roaders' who do not consider themselves to be 'progressive'.

imho

[Skittles]

39. are they regressive?

if so, that would make them republicans

[left-of-center2012]

41. "are the regressive?"

Huh ?

[Skittles]

42. *they

having problems with keyboard after I spilled a coke on it

[left-of-center2012]

44. Are who the regressives?

The 'middle of the roaders'?

IMHO, a regressor wants to 'go back'.
I view 'middle of the roaders' as moving forward, but at a slower pace.

As my DU name suggests, I am "left-of-center".

[Skittles]

45. I just think that all Dems should be "progressive"

since we are not for standing still or moving backwards

[mopinko]

22. it's also a big segment of door knockers and donors.

doors win elections.
shoe leather wins elections.

who those people want is not unimportant.

[Renew Deal]

7. Will she be a better president than President Dean?

[hedda_foil]

46. Dean would have been a superb President. The "scream" was manufactured.

[msongs]

11. and how did the 2016 poll winner fare in the election? nt

[FloridaBlues]

15. Not too surprising that Warren and Bernie poll the highest with move on.

[zentrum]

16. Very encouraging.

[madville]

24. Bernie polled at 78% to Clinton's 14% in 2016 among this group

And then Bernie went on to soundly defeat Clinton in the 2016 primary anchored by overwhelming Moveon.org support......

[still_one]

32. Lol, yeah that's how I remember it too

[NurseJackie]

54. Yep!

[mtnsnake]

56. Funny how this poll means nothing but the ones polling Biden being ahead are bible. lol

[still_one]

58. Because this poll ISN'T representative of all the Democratic voters.

[mtnsnake]

62. But all other polls are, right?

[still_one]

66. Depends on the poll, but the major pollsters goal is absolutely that. MoveOn is representative of

those who are part of MoveOn. The major pollsters don’t limit themselves to MoveOn members

[madville]

68. Because the ones showing Biden ahead are an example

Of the actual electorate weighted across all 50 states or in a particular state.

A poll of a progressive organization's members doesn't mean much besides explaining why Bernie has slid backwards a bit in the major polls and Warren has picked up some of those progressive votes. That makes sense.

[Bhkylib]

40. How many minorities among MoveOn members?

I'd love to know.

[betsuni]

47. I thought the headline said that Warren has a gigantic head.

[joshcryer]

48. Move On has a historical tendency of not moving on from populist candidates.

Apparently.

[Midwestocrat]

49. You should see Biden's lead!!

...among my family members! It's even larger and just as representative of the Democratic Party as MoveOn!

[DarthDem]

52. I Just Stopped Five People in the Street

Looks like Andrew Yang has GOT this, folks!!

[still_one]

59. No doubt about it.

[mtnsnake]

64. My buddy who predicted the Columbus Blue Jackets would sweep the TB Lightning in 4 straight games

just predicted that Steve Bullock would win the Democratic nomination. He doesn't rely on polls, though.

[mtnsnake]

57. MoveOn over, Joe. This is just the beginning.

[colsohlibgal]

60. Encouraging

She has a legit shot. Some of them who do not should figure that out and maybe run for the Senate, if we don’t take that over and we win the White House the Turtle will be a roadblock.