Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden's past working relationship with a segregationist senator comes to the forefront
Joe Biden was a freshman senator, the youngest member of the august body, when he reached out to an older colleague for help on one of his early legislative proposals: The courts were ordering racially segregated school districts to bus children to create more integrated classrooms, a practice Biden opposed and wanted to change.
I want you to know that I very much appreciate your help during this weeks Committee meeting in attempting to bring my antibusing legislation to a vote, Biden wrote on June 30, 1977.
The recipient of Bidens entreaty was Sen. James O. Eastland, at the time a well-known segregationist who had called blacks an inferior race and once vowed to prevent blacks and whites from eating together in Washington. The exchange, revealed in a series of letters, offers a new glimpse into an old relationship that erupted this week as a major controversy for Bidens presidential campaign.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tensions-ripple-through-biden-campaign-as-his-past-working-relationship-with-a-segregationist-senator-comes-to-the-forefront/2019/06/20/2518afe6-9394-11e9-b570-6416efdc0803_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8dc767916dba
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)are the opinions that matter most to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)His support for Hillary was absolutely trashed to the core. As it will be here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)John Lewis is highly respected, however John Lewis doesn't speak for the entire African American community. He is one man. Therefore, his take on any matter does not end a discussion. I understand the sentiment Lewis was trying to convey. However, working with opposing ideologues for the greater good, is totally different from what Biden did with Eastland. Unless we should now think anti busing was a good measure for the enhancement of race relations.
Instead of fighting with Booker, I would love to here present day Biden critique his past stance on busing. All I'm hearing are excuses. I also, do not believe Biden is a racist and I do think Booker has overblown this issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)Such divisive propaganda will not work this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)Campaign's henchmen feed stories to their buddy reporters to report, including documents and where to find those documents for corroboration.
That is how a sausage is made!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Its so old school.
That being said, these docs were all over the net months ago. Probably why his aides, errrr uh henchmen, begged him to stop bragging about his relationship with the dude.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)Fascinating.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)and you can tell by all the positive coverage he gets there.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Im sure Biden and everyone else patted each other on the back and sent meaningless notes to one another as a form of etiquette. Theres no controversy to be found in this note.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)But the letters show a different type of relationship, one in which they were aligned on a legislative issue."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tensions-ripple-through-biden-campaign-as-his-past-working-relationship-with-a-segregationist-senator-comes-to-the-forefront/2019/06/20/2518afe6-9394-11e9-b570-6416efdc0803_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.10b2761c59b8
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,420 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)"A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy. A woman on her knees, a woman tied up, a woman abused."
A woman enjoys intercourse with her man as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously."
The man and woman get dressed up on Sunday and go to Church, or maybe to their 'revolutionary' political meeting."
Writing and publishing rape fantasies. I am not shitting you. This is what Sanders was doing during this period yet you never hear about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)One can find them on google.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Melman, do you have any positive threads yet? We really want to hear good stuff about from you about your favorite candidates.
It may be popular in the press and the twittersphere to try to damage and destroy Warren and Biden right now.
But honestly the press and twitter have that nasty business covered.
They wanna make this a Thing out of this for Biden and they want to smear Left liberal Warren as a moderate puppet of the establishment.
Both of those topics are fake will be dead and gone in a day or so.
So tell us good things about who you like! Thats not a fad, it is exactly what DU needs right now. The debates are coming up and lots of us are ready to decide.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)This is a major endorsement. I was at the National Convention when the sanders delegates engaged in a planned stunt of booing Congressman John Lewis. The Clinton campaign had a great "whipping infrastructure" and my whip warned me of this stunt 20 to 30 minutes in advance. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this planned stunt and declined.
I have been privileged to hear Congressman John Lewis tell his "preaching to chickens" story four times in person
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
This is a major endorsement
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Martin Savidge: "Everybody we talked to said that Joe Biden's words did not change their opinion of him..."
Looks like this just isnt going to be a thing.
Def time for some positive posts about the candidates you support!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Voters arent in the mood for fact-free negative attacks this Primary season. Or in the GE either.
Trying to damage and weaken our canidates isnt cool. Everyone knows Trumps gotta be defeated, and any of our candidates would make a great president.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Remember, Biden was only 34 years old at that time and was in the Senate for only four years.
Link to tweet
By the way, I know you're "undecided" ( ) but in 1974 BS was against busing, too. But he wasn't in much of a position to do anything about it in the Senate at the time, he was still a member of the Liberty Union Party in Vermont:
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)Yeah I actually am undecided.
Are you suggesting I'm not? If so, please explain how it is that you would know.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Only negative threads and posts.
If you were decided, youd no doubt be lifting up candidates.
Im undecided too but I try to say positive things about all of our candidates. They all want to do the right thing by the 99%. The all want to lift up the most vulnerable in our society. They all want to protect the environment. They all want to undo the damage Trump has done to our country.
And any one of them can and would acheive those things, including Biden and Senator Warren. As I said before it is very popular on the twitterverse to try to destroy those two.
Lift somebody up! You are a thoughtful guy and a very capable writer. Show us the wonderful constructive things you have to say!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)It doesnt.
Im addressing another DUer specifically about how David Sirota isnt doing the best job he can to promote Senator Sanders candidacy.
The post is not related to you. I take your word that you are undecided and I defending you against someone who insinuated you were not undecided.
Also, if all I post is negative awful stuff how do you know I'm such a thoughtful guy?
Oh Mehman, what a terrible thing to say about yourself. You arent awful and clearly you are passionate about our core progressive values.
Your posts do seem to be mostly negative, but I dont believe you are a negative person.. And I see tons of potential in you to do something better and bigger to help a Democrat candidate win.
Because I know you are passionate and your heart is in the right place for getting our country
back on track!
Just try to say something good about one of our candidates. Youll probably find it very satisfying.
Have a great weekend.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)beating this almost dead horse? They must know that this is divisive and didn't work for Sanders in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)his strengths, because he has a lot of them.
Attempting to paint Biden as a segregationist and Warren as a moderate tool of the establishment aint gonna work. Voters know better.
I cant imagine Bernie likes this, he signed a pledge that said no negative campaigning.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)He is the one who hired David Sirota, Brihana Joy-Grey and Nina Turner. He knew what he was doing. The pledge was disingenuous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)I bet I know what hes doing wth them!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden