Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhoopi Goldberg Defends Biden Over Segregationist Comments: 'You Can't Say He's Racist'
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/whoopi-goldberg-defends-biden-over-segregationist-comments-you-cant-say-hes-racist/The former vice president is facing criticism for his remarks about how civility in politics is possible because he managed in the past to work with segregationist senators. As Goldberg noted that Bidens Democratic rivals are pummeling him for his comments, she let out a deep sigh before remarking that there used to be a lot of racists and civil rights opponents in Congress, and this is the world as it was:
Ana Navarro said rivals like Cory Booker (D-NJ) are taking advantage of the situation to try to get attention. While Navarro agreed that Biden isnt a racist, she also said, I dont like that he did this because hes dragging up these dead racists instead of us talking about the live racists that were at the Donald Trump rally.
Sunny Hostin agreed that Biden has racial blindspots that could be problematic when it comes to securing votes among African Americans, but Goldberg continued to defend Biden, saying this is what [he had] to do back then. When the show came back from break, Meghan McCain also found it ridiculous for Democrats to hold Bidens history against him in this way in order to engage in Democrat on Democrat cannibalization.
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Video at the link.
I watched that part of The View this morning, didn't find video of it till just now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...for eight years.
It's the first time I think I've seen all five of them pretty much in agreement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)He keeps saying thing like this and creating the firestorms in the first place. What is this, the fourth or fith time since he announced that people have had to Bidensplain what he really meant?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demit
(11,238 posts)That's what Biden thinks about himself. He apparently has no perception that people are constantly having to explain him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)firestorms will continue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Joe was supposed to have gotten Talmadge in a choke hold and squeezed the life out of him when they were alone in the same room! Anything less is enabling racism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)who insisted Joe "must apologize". The two got into a mini shouting match, then Bernie abruptly cut her off.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,319 posts)stand up to BS?!
Mahalo for this, oasis!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)point of view.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,319 posts)detailed account I ran across..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=158100
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)brings it all back. Thanks. Hopefully others will take note on Bernire's rude behavior.
Mahalo Cha.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,319 posts)I see you saw George II's Vid on it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287159003#top
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mosby
(16,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)Hardly. Its those that need to parse every word that create the firestorm.
Unfortunately for the detractors, Joe has been through many faux firestorms.
So have his supporters.
Still Joe remains the most qualified both nationally and globally.
Those not looking for negatives about Joe dont need your Bidensplaining only folks who do do.
PS. When Joe said its a Big Effin Deal. That was not a mistake. It actually was a big effin deal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OhZone
(3,212 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
loyalsister
(13,390 posts).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Also, she is against inheritance taxes and calls them death taxes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And, as Biden has never run a dog--fighting ring, your tenuous (through imaginative) equivalency seems specious at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)I don't know if anyone actually called Biden a racist. I did hear & read people say that coddling segregationists, admiring them because they were nice to you personally, was wrong. And that making these comments on Juneteenth was tone deaf.
Nobody is holding Biden's history of working with the opposition against him. What leaves the bad taste is his insistence on speaking admiringly about horrible people.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)Nice try minimizing this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,820 posts)Dont start on me. You are the one accusing Whoopi of lying or misstating.
Im guessing Whoopi knows what she means.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)Biden a racist. When someone else pointed that out you said:
Just cuz you didn't hear it doesn't mean it isn't true.
That statement led me to believe you knew what Whoopi meant or at least you knew of someone who had called him a racist.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Cha
(297,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)I guess I scared 'em off.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,319 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Posters on here are making the same claim that people are accusing Biden of beign a racist. I haven't seen anyone here or Dem officials who have said that. Yet it's become a meme here, or rather a strawman as you said. The overall point is that he doesn't seem - from this and other statements - to understand what we are dealing with in 2019.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_liberal
(1,017 posts)His campaign needs to explain that yet because it's obvious people are still confused about it. The part about working with segregationists and being bipartisan I think he's winning on.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)a most disrespect thing to do towards a fellow Senator.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)There are better ways to get the message across to work with others. His staff advised him not to use a segregationist example and choose someone else. It's disappointing that Joe doesn't know why it's wrong.
Nonwhite Senators and congresspeople would not have the privilege to work with segregationists who block their very right to even vote or run for office. Obama faced unprecedented obstruction as president. This is white privilege.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Saying that you were able to get someone to vote on a bill, as disgusting as those senators were as human beings, is not pandering to anyone.
It was a bad example and not thought out on Biden's part, though. A bad example is not pandering.
But if what you are implying is that he was somehow winking and nodding at racists, that's something that is different than what happened. I hope you reconsider that opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)By letting sleeping dogs snooze, the reaction to son-boy would have faded from public consciousness faster.
But that's not what happened. And, here is where we are today.
The media loves an internecine fight. Sigh.
The problem with Biden's communications volley is that Biden can not make Booker apologize. But what Biden could have done is move on to something else because Biden has control over what his campaign does or says. Or, Biden could have allowed statements of support from POC to stay in the spotlight. There are many avenues he could have gone down other than tit-for-tat apology pleas.
Biden needs to be doing a lot of activity from day-to-day so things like the quote have a harder time taking root. Give people something or an array of things to talk about. Do something on social media. Just do something else.
Disclaimer: This is not a criticism of candidate Biden. It's a criticism of his campaign's communications strategy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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TDale313
(7,820 posts)I do think hes kinda out of touch and gaff prone, and thats an issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)community is well aware of who our friends and enemies are. When the dust settles, Biden will emerge unscathed, and the attackers will probably suffer much more than Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)We could do worse!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
That's my line lately.. ".. it could be worse.."
ucr
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
And I think it would be a great ticket. Who better than Whoopi to campaign with Joe? Heck I'd stand in line AND show some green to attend one of their rallies!
And if she became president? Watch out world!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Whoopi said the same thing I have been saying. Clyburn defended Biden, too!
Please post the video if you find it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden