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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:02 AM Jun 2019

Warren is climbing, Sanders is...






The national Monmouth poll is just the latest survey (national and state) showing Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) catching up and even inching ahead of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Former vice president Joe Biden is out in front with 32 percent but Warren is now at 15 percent, Sanders at 14 percent and Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) at 8 percent. Sanders is obviously a lot closer to Harris than to Biden.

Warren’s strength, if you look at the poll’s cross tabs, comes from liberals (25 percent vs. 17 percent for Sanders), women (Warren plus five points), older voters (plus eight) and especially those voters with a college degree (23 percent vs. 9 percent). This is hardly surprising given that Warren has batches of detailed plans, many designed to help women and children (e.g., subsidized day care, free college, black maternal mortality).

Many observers with no favored candidate say Warren is running the best campaign of any Democratic contender. Eschewing fundraisers, she has more time to campaign (famously willing to give anyone and everyone an autograph or a selfie) and, she said recently, to hold more than 100 town halls and take 2,000 questions. She appears the most energetic, most prepared and most accessible of the top candidates. She’s excited about all her plans — and that gets voters excited about her.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/20/warren-is-climbing-sanders-is-panicking/?utm_term=.3591ed350dc2
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
1. Bernie Sanders adocated free tuition first
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jun 2019

...and has a bill which Elizabeth Warren co-sponsored.

She hasn't put out a detailed plan of her own for free tuition.

Warren's black maternal mortality plan would probably increase mortality. It would punish hospitals for black maternal deaths with funding loss like George W. Bush's "No Child Left Behind" punishes schools for students getting low scores. Hospitals/schools who need money the most get the least.

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George II

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2. "Free tuition" is not a revolutionary new concept. When I was applying for admission to college....
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:19 AM
Jun 2019

...both the State University of New York and City University of New York had free tuition. That was back when BS was in college himself.

Plus, the title of BS' bill is a misnomer, the "College for All Act" isn't what the bill would accomplish, it would be free tuition for PUBLIC (i.e., state and municipal colleges like SUNY and CUNY)

Finally, he introduced the bill in April 2017, what is it's status?

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Eric J in MN

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6. He also introduced a Free Tuition bill in 2015.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jun 2019

Any bill from before 2019 which didn’t become law is inactive and would have to be reintroduced to pass.

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BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
7. I guess this kind of post is what we can expect from Sanders supporters when she finally moves ahead
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jun 2019

Really nasty, rough stuff too.

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George II

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3. I'm afraid that the more Warren rises and BS falls, the nastier this is going to get.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jun 2019
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honest.abe

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14. Soon the BS'ers will be calling Warren a corporatist.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:23 PM
Jun 2019

I really wish he would go away... far away.

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George II

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16. He insinuated that yesterday:
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019
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SouthernProgressive

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4. From intelligence to coalition building....
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jun 2019

Warren tops him. It isn't even close.

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Eric J in MN

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8. Bernie Sanders built the coalition
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jun 2019

...to get Congress to pass a bipartisan bill against the War in Yemen.

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SouthernProgressive

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13. The coalition for that was there.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jun 2019

He didn't build the coalition. Amazing how some will say anything for him.

It's no secret that Sanders has opposed coalitions since the beginning. It's why he is in the position he is in today after being a career politician.

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hueymahl

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9. It sure appears that Warren is siphoning votes from Sanders
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jun 2019

Are there any polls to support this? My guess is that if Sanders were to drop from the race (and he will eventually), Warren would be the primary beneficiary. If that happens, we would have a very interesting choice to make between she and Biden.

Personally, I would love to see a Biden-Warren ticket. The other way around would be pretty dang good too, but I find it less likely to happen.

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hueymahl

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12. Another poster answered my question here re Support in the Polls
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:09 PM
Jun 2019
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aikoaiko

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10. I doubt that Bernie is panicking. Oh its Jennifer Rubin opinion piece.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jun 2019


Figures.
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Gothmog

(145,300 posts)
15. From Nate Silver-Warren is hurting sanders
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jun 2019
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