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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:12 PM Jun 2019

Here is my list of favorites in order at the moment.

1. Warren
2. Harris
3. Biden
4. Buttigieg
5. Booker
6. O’Rourke

I voted for Sanders in 2016 Primary and Clinton in the General. I won’t be voting Sanders this time around unless he gets the nomination. Personally, I think he should drop out now and endorse Warren.

Just my thoughts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Here is my list of favorites in order at the moment. (Original Post) rateyes Jun 2019 OP
Ok, I'll play, using the same six names... ADX Jun 2019 #1
I'm exactly where you are about Sanders. marble falls Jun 2019 #2
I will Copy and Paste jayschool2013 Jun 2019 #3
Just want to beat trump DownriverDem Jun 2019 #4
Bernie has nothing to lose by staying in until his funding dries up which it might not. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #5
What deal would that have been? nt LibFarmer Jun 2019 #13
Obama agreed to fundraise to solve her campaign debt problems. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #23
That deal was made. Bernie didn't accept. LibFarmer Jun 2019 #31
Aiko, a lot of people don't realize how extremely different Hortensis Jun 2019 #34
Constantly blaming Hillary for other people's poor choices gets old. yardwork Jun 2019 #14
I;m not blaming Hillary. I was happy to see Bernie stay in until the convention. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #24
Unless you were in Hillary's inner circle, you have no idea. yardwork Jun 2019 #33
Always Hillary's fault obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #16
Unbelievable, isn't it? yardwork Jun 2019 #32
I like . . . Gamecock Lefty Jun 2019 #6
I don't think Warren would want to be Biden's VP. Harris comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #15
I have the same two favs marlakay Jun 2019 #29
Very concerned about debate format. zentrum Jun 2019 #7
They should have taken those w/highest nos., and split THEM between the 2 nights... Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #10
Yes, but if zentrum Jun 2019 #11
I think it's actually more likely that the first night will have more viewers Indygram Jun 2019 #25
You can make an argument either way. marylandblue Jun 2019 #18
Yes--when you're right... zentrum Jun 2019 #19
Warren is my second choice :) They are both speaking of big changes, and that's what we need. marylandblue Jun 2019 #20
... Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #8
Warren...inslee...Sanders...Biden Karadeniz Jun 2019 #9
Then why do you have Biden as your choice in your sig??? obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #12
Here are my current 8 favorites: mtnsnake Jun 2019 #21
just so you know Skittles Jun 2019 #22
even when a democrat gets elected president JI7 Jun 2019 #28
My list Lithos Jun 2019 #26
For me customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #27
Here are my Top 6... Mike Nelson Jun 2019 #30
 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
1. Ok, I'll play, using the same six names...
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jun 2019

1. Biden
2. Buttigieg
3. Harris
4. Warren
5. Booker
6. O'Rourke

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
2. I'm exactly where you are about Sanders.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:41 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
3. I will Copy and Paste
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:44 PM
Jun 2019

Because I agree with your list and mirror your history and opinion.

1. Warren
2. Harris
3. Biden
4. Buttigieg
5. Booker
6. O’Rourke

I voted for Sanders in 2016 Primary and Clinton in the General. I won’t be voting Sanders this time around unless he gets the nomination. Personally, I think he should drop out now and endorse Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
4. Just want to beat trump
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jun 2019

A Biden/Harris ticket would be formidable. We have never had a woman VP. She would be seen nationally in a leadership position. Americans are still behind when it comes to women leaders. Americans want normalcy. Biden represents normalcy. A lot of damage has been done by trump and the repubs that will take a long time to undo. Biden has the experience both in Congress and at the White House on how to get things done. He is a true Dem. trump does not want to run against Biden. Biden will not take trump's crap and will give it back. Winning the Electoral College and beating trump is all that matters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
5. Bernie has nothing to lose by staying in until his funding dries up which it might not.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:09 PM
Jun 2019

If that's true, it behooves Warren to extend the carrot and make deals with Bernie.

I was genuinely stunned that HRC couldn't create a good enough deal for Bernie to bow out earlier.

If I recall correctly, her campaign staff wanted Obama to promise to help HRC fundraise to solve her campaign debt which was also partially personal debt before she bowed out and threw her support toward Obama. Obama made the deal.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
13. What deal would that have been? nt
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:25 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
23. Obama agreed to fundraise to solve her campaign debt problems.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
31. That deal was made. Bernie didn't accept.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 07:25 AM
Jun 2019

Besides, Bernie didn't have any campaign debt remaining.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Aiko, a lot of people don't realize how extremely different
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:27 AM
Jun 2019

Warren and Sanders are. She didn't refuse to endorse him because she favored Hillary more.

Sanders is a lifelong wannabe socialist revolutionary who tried to misuse party rules to subvert the majority vote of 17 million Democrats and have himself effectively appointed the nominee. That's only one little thing, there's a lot more to the differences, but just by itself it should be a huge, atomic bomb explosion-size indicator that he's very, very different from all our Democratic candidates, not just her. Even our blue dog candidates don't have attempted election subversion on their record.

Deal with him? Seriously, get real. Warren and Clinton dealt with each other, with him not possible, though Hillary did pay him the courtesy of meeting with him as if it could be, giving him the opportunity to tell the press he would not work with her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
14. Constantly blaming Hillary for other people's poor choices gets old.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
24. I;m not blaming Hillary. I was happy to see Bernie stay in until the convention.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:20 PM
Jun 2019

It wasn't in her interest though.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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yardwork

(61,650 posts)
33. Unless you were in Hillary's inner circle, you have no idea.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:09 AM
Jun 2019

We all saw Bernie's behavior at the convention. Maybe offers were made and rejected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
16. Always Hillary's fault
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:23 PM
Jun 2019

Always the woman's fault. Never poor Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
32. Unbelievable, isn't it?
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
6. I like . . .
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:10 PM
Jun 2019

Warren and Mayor Pete as my two favs right now.

if Biden wins the nomination I think he chooses Harris or Warren as his running mate. If Warren or Harris wins the nomination I think either chooses Mayor Pete.

I like our chances in 2020 but I liked them in 2016, too. Keep the faith.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
15. I don't think Warren would want to be Biden's VP. Harris
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jun 2019

might do it though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marlakay

(11,473 posts)
29. I have the same two favs
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:08 AM
Jun 2019

And I agree about Bernie, I supported him last time but I am moving on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
7. Very concerned about debate format.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jun 2019

Last edited Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Recent NPR pundit has said the random way it was done---names in a hat---hurts the candidates on the first night, because except for Warren, it's not those with highest poll numbers.

Warren won't be able to debate her top tier rivals and the feeling is that everyone (the ordinary citizen) will wait until they can see Biden, Sanders and Harris together.

This pundit says it hurts Democracy. He said we need to have all the candidates at once doing just one a few main subjects. Then do it again and again until all major subjects are covered.

We need to really be able to compare them. For example, who cares what DeBlasio says vs. Warren?

Bothers me a lot that Warren won't be able to debate Biden and Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. They should have taken those w/highest nos., and split THEM between the 2 nights...
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:48 PM
Jun 2019

then split the remainder up. So there would be more than one first tier candidate each night.

Warren drew the short straw here, if there's low viewership. OTOH, she'll have more of an opportunity to shine.

Good that there will be several debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
11. Yes, but if
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:18 PM
Jun 2019

...her numbers stay the same because nobody sees her--because nobody bothers to watch the first night with many unknowns---and because they plan to watch the "hot" candidates on night two---that flat line becomes the story and hurts her.

I really need to see the top five together. She's my pick right now but until a few days ago I was "undecided".

What you're saying is what this pundit said---it would have been better to split the top tiers between the two nights.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Indygram

(2,113 posts)
25. I think it's actually more likely that the first night will have more viewers
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM
Jun 2019

The second night debate is up against 3 different TV finales....Life in Pieces, In the Dark and The Real Housewives of New York City.

Most people aren't even paying attention yet, so some may tune in the first night and not bother watch the second night.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
18. You can make an argument either way.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:32 PM
Jun 2019

Warren goes the first night without serious competition. If she knocks it out of the park, she has the news cycle to herself for 24 hours. She also has the substantive policies and can explain them in 2 minutes. They will generate interest. The others will be forced to respond the following night.

Am I right about this? I don't know and neither do the pundits.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. Yes--when you're right...
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jun 2019

...you're right. And BTW---I love your candidate too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
20. Warren is my second choice :) They are both speaking of big changes, and that's what we need.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:21 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
8. ...
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:56 PM
Jun 2019

1. Biden
2. Warren
3. O’Rourke
4. Buttigieg
5. Harris

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Karadeniz

(22,535 posts)
9. Warren...inslee...Sanders...Biden
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
17. Then why do you have Biden as your choice in your sig???
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:25 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to rateyes (Original post)

 

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
21. Here are my current 8 favorites:
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:49 PM
Jun 2019

1: Buttigieg
2: Warren
3: Klobuchar (I think she'd be the safest bet to beat Trump)
4: Swalwell
5: Harris
6: O'Rourke
7: Booker
8: Bennet

None of them would have any problem beating Trump in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
22. just so you know
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:50 PM
Jun 2019

Sanders will never drop out

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JI7

(89,252 posts)
28. even when a democrat gets elected president
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:32 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
26. My list
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:32 AM
Jun 2019

Warren
Harris
Buttigieg
Biden
Then a tie w/ Inslee, Yang, O'Rourke

I'm remaining Undecided as this list has changed several times over the past few weeks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
27. For me
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:41 AM
Jun 2019

it's between Biden and Buttigieg. It will come down to who has the "big mo" by the time of the SC primary. My heart wants Pete, but my head says Joe. However, if Biden does a lackluster job in campaigning, he will lose support in the country, and both heart and head will say Buttigieg. Of course, that's assuming he continues to shine the way he has. The debates will likely do a lot for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
30. Here are my Top 6...
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:37 AM
Jun 2019

(from your list)
1. Harris and Buttigieg (tie)
3. O’Rourke
4. Warren
5. Booker
6. Biden

I would be happy with any of them!

Warren has really moved up among my favorites. She explains things so well - and she can talk about both Hillary & AOC without negativity!

I would like Klobuchar and Swalwell to catch on some... maybe in the debates...

I agree with you about Sanders - and don't think he will drop out... even if it's obvious he won't win, he will want to go to the Convention with as many delegates as he can get... and that's fine because that's the system the Democrats have set up and he's free to take advantage of what is in place.


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