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Jay Inslee Says He May Defy the DNC on a Climate Change Debate
He claimed the DNC is effectively blacklisting candidates who want to have one.
Rebecca Leber
Washington Governor Jay Inslee says he wont rule out participating in a primary debate on climate change, a move thatif he followed throughcould risk his being barred from participating in the formal Democratic National Committee sponsored debates.
Inslee claimed the DNC is trying to eliminate an opportunity to have a debate by effectively blacklisting candidates who want to have one.
You have to understand how constricted the opportunity for a full discussion for this will be when were talking about mobilizing and rebuilding the entire economy to decarbonize over the next couple decades, he said. You cant describe the mobilization of the economy in 60-second sound bites.
When asked about this matter, DNC spokesperson Xochitl Hinojosa replied, It is the DNCs job to organize the debate schedule, and the ground rules on unsanctioned debates were made clear with all the candidates, including Governor Inslee, and media partners months ago. The DNC welcomes candidates to join issue-specific forums instead.
At the moment, there is no climate change debate scheduled, whether sanctioned by the DNC or not. But Sunrise Movement, the primary Green New Deal advocacy arm that is planning to protest outside the second debate in Detroit, told Mother Jones it is considering staging its own. The American people deserve a climate debate, Varshini Prakash said in a statement to Mother Jones. If the DNC isnt willing to put it on, well consider organizing one ourselves.
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https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2019/06/jay-inslee-says-he-may-defy-the-dnc-on-a-climate-change-debate/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,133 posts)And every other economic, social, immigration and ecological dimension associated with it.
His Global Climate Mobilization Plan is the best one out there.
https://www.jayinslee.com/issues/global-climate
Time is up.
Gradualization won't save us.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a8b2f10017db29af12740d5/t/5afda271575d1f58a9520ae9/1526571637727/Paris+commitments+-+safe+climate+pathway.png?format=500w
https://www.theclimatemobilization.org/science
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,133 posts)?lkfmoahuwvswsRsKZHRa2FMazya_Asrb&itok=azeHuK21
If this scares you, good.
But if it doesn't scare you into paying attention to Inslee, we will have passed up on the most important human project ever undertaken.
Saving the planet can begin with spending $5 TRILLION.
Not doing anything will cost us ten times what we could have paid up front. And mass death.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)Climate is extremely important and Inslee is not the only candidate talking about it.
Beto has a great plan on Climate Change but he also has a great plan on Immigration, Voting Rights and Choice...all of which are critical as well.
Inslee should just try to get a Climate town hall or something similar. It doesn't have to be a debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)seeing right now at the border. And no one wants to see this mass migration as climate disaster related. But it is.
Inslee knows how to put our domestic and political problems in perspective.
You're right, the climate crisis isn't up for debate. And climate crisis doesn't care how you see it. It is here.
A town hall for Inslee is fine, as far as it goes.
My view is that he needs to sponsor a major conference on this climate crisis for the country.
Americans are slow to wake up to the disasters around them, for a lot of reasons, one of which is that, if it hasn't happened to them, it's not that serious a political priority.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Climate change has to be addressed NOW, not down the road. Inslee is right, the DNC should have a debate on this, and they should not stop others from attending one by another group by removing anyone who does. It's just plain stupid!
I want to see how everyone of our candidates will take this on. So far Inslee has done more, and put out more information than anyone else. I want so see all of the candidates debate this issue. I also want a candidate who will make this the NUMBER ONE issue as soon as they take office. If we don't get things fixed on this issue, nothing else will matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sprinkleeninow
(20,255 posts)What's not to love in admiration.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"[The] goal is to provide a platform for candidates to have a vigorous discussion on ideas and solutions on the many issues that voters care about, including the economy, climate change, and health care. While climate change is at the top of our list, the DNC will not be holding entire debates on a single issue area because we want to make sure voters have the ability to hear from candidates on dozens of issues of importance to American voters."
DNC communications director Xochitl Hinojosa
https://www.axios.com/dnc-tells-inslee-no-climate-primary-debate-84f304e8-5a1c-4a94-87a6-cd63ee5234ec.html
No, you can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need
Rolling Stones
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)That is his strong suit and in my opinion his ONLY strong suit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)Name one other candidate who has experience as a chief executive - not second in charge, and experience in Congress. Pit their records against Inslee's: see what you think.
Washington under Inslee's leadership has been bold in its approach to economic issues, racial divisions, and the environment.
We'll all vote for who we want, but it's better to credit effective liberal leaders for their successes, don't you think? In no way is Inslee a one-issue candidate. He just addressed the climate issue with an urgency that is lacking nearly across the board - among both parties. Remember, 12 years and counting to avoid the worst effects.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's the #1 issue for some Americans.
Why would the DNC blacklist anyone participating in a non-DNC sanctioned debate?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)How many of the scheduled debates should be single-issue, and what issues don't get one when you run out?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)If we don't get this right the rest is just rearranging deck chairs while the boat sinks.
And anyone thinking Inslee is simply pushing this to further his candidacy has it ass-backwards.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)social issues, science and reproduction issues, legal issues and who we are as a nation all become part of the larger project of saving ourselves and Earth in the looming climate crisis.
All those #1 issues of other Americans do get addressed in the climate change mobilization project.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's separate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Inslee will be in the debates. And when and if he qualifies for DNC support he'll get it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)they can't devote on of them to the life-and-death struggle for the planet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)if not at the DNC debates, then elsewhere, in detail. Here in Oregon, we spend the summers choking on brown air and fearing well get the call to evacuate. I keep a go bag in my car.
I can sort of understand Perez not wanting to devote a whole evening to one topic, so as not to appear to favor the candidate who made it his signature issue. But I do not get the punitive aspect at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LibFarmer
(772 posts)He will just be barred from future debates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)But not a single issue debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...on CNN or MSNBC. I'm sure if he wanted to do one on that issue one of them will run it on their network.
I don't recall ever seeing a debate limited to just one topic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Not one candidate's ideas in a Town hall.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,264 posts)in a town hall he can give detsils .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)have to be set up to only talk about candidates votes.
It can and should talk about their PLANS, and why their plans are needed and why they were the best of the alternatives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Andy823
(11,495 posts)I don't get some of the things people are saying here about why NOT to have this debate. Every single candidate should be willing to put up or shut up when it comes to what they will do to stop the threat of climate change. I don't want our candidate to "KICK" it down the road once in office. I want our candidate to have a "real" plan that will start the day they take office. We have some great candidates, lets here their plans in front of the American people. Let they them explain things in detail.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,264 posts)the debates wont really get into what each candidate has to offer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Fighting back for the good of mankind by any Republican? Don't make me laugh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,264 posts)and what he would do.
debates won't give much time for that. instead people will spend a lot of time on attacking over some votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)What Inslee is talking about would cause huge problems. No one here would want it. How about if CNN held a Social Justice debate and only invited the top five candidates. Now say every network did that. Everyone would be screaming.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)noun: debate; plural noun: debates
1.
a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
Which candidates have opposing arguments? What's to be gained, other than, potentially, nitpicking our way into another useless internecine battle?
Redefining simple words has become a fucking existential crisis itself. Perhaps a language debate is in order.
Save the single-issue debate on this subject with someone who disagrees.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,783 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Thursday, June 6
2020 Democratic Presidential nomination:
Biden 27,
Sanders 15,
Warren 12,
Harris 9,
Buttigieg 10,
O'Rourke 2,
Booker 2,
Klobuchar 1,
de Blasio 2,
Yang 1,
Castro 0,
Hickenlooper 1,
Gabbard 1
Wither Inslee? Tilting at DNC debate rules.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,264 posts)he really IS the best candidate on the environment. So do town halls and other small events and talk to people about it. if he can't get enough people to turn out at scheduled events just go to diners and other places people are and just start talking to people .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)distraction from an existential threat too overwhelming to deal with.
That's why Inslee isn't on your list.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Does he think talking about climate change will push his numbers up high enough to matter? I don't think so.
He'll have opportunities to air his ideas during the debates. He can also hold his own rallies or addresses on that issue at any time during the campaign and try to get them covered by the media.
But, what he really needs is poll numbers that make him look like he actually matters in this primary race.
ETA: So, I looked up the most recent polls here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
In aggregate, Inslee is showing 0.5%. I'm sorry, but he's pretty much irrelevant at this point in the campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)attempt to boost his numbers by drawing some of the conspiracy-prone people who might go Sanders or third-party.
All candidates put on private events frequently to advance their campaigns. Portraying one as "defying" a supposedly hostile DNC supports the suspicion that he is.
Whatever his motivation, Gov. Inslee just slid severely south in my estimation. Huge no to both attacking the Democratic Party in these dangerous times and at any time bottom trolling damaging lies for those who can always be fooled.
Perhaps our next president will appoint him to a role in his administration. Inslee is term limited as governor, so he'll be looking for work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)the problem is human psychology. Being in the hospital without health insurance is a crisis people relate to. The relationship between illegal immigration and climate is an abstraction.
I wish it weren't so, but that's how it is. That's why we've known about this for forty years and still have done almost nothing.
I hope the next President makes Inslee EPA Administrator and lets him write the climate bill.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,264 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I initially supported him and I thought(hoped?) that would work but it doesn't seem to be. O'Rourke and Biden got more coverage for their climate plans than Inslee did. Hell, just Biden's failure to cite sources got more coverage than Inslee.
Inslee would be better off playing up other issues and ignoring climate for the time being. I say this as a climate alarmist and an Inslee fan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden