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The Waltons - the owners of Walmart - earn $25,000 a minute. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jun 2019 OP
Teach it, Bernie! zentrum Jun 2019 #1
Go j Sneederbunk Jun 2019 #2
The Waltons Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #3
As we used to say in Brooklyn, "put your money where your mouth is". His books are still listed.... George II Jun 2019 #6
As we used to say in Nashville, "some people can't see the forest for the trees." Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #10
He should stand on principle and stop helping to feed the profits of both Amazon and Walmart. George II Jun 2019 #12
Do you support Bernie's principles? Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #16
Here we go with the deflective questions. One principle that I support.... George II Jun 2019 #18
If you don't like the business practices of Walmart and Amazon and you were smart Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #19
If one were "smart" (as you put it) one would use EVERY means to resist - there's more.... George II Jun 2019 #22
Cool movement of the goalposts!!! LanternWaste Jun 2019 #20
Average hourly wage at Walmart for full time is $14.26 OKNancy Jun 2019 #4
But only 1/3 of Walmart workers are full time TexasBushwhacker Jun 2019 #31
Minimum wage in Vermont is $10.78 per hour. George II Jun 2019 #5
Which would go to $15 per hour if Bernie gets his way. Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #7
The point is his own state has a very low minimum wage. What has he done to get it raised? George II Jun 2019 #9
I believe you do know how our government works, don't you George? Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #11
What does that mean Joe? George II Jun 2019 #13
Bernie is not King, he's not even the governor of Vermont but more to the point Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #15
Yes, he's not King, nor does he sit on the Board of Walmart. George II Jun 2019 #17
Why do you keep harping on that? progressoid Jun 2019 #27
What does he have to do with the pay structure of Walmart? George II Jun 2019 #28
He is a very powerful politician in his state. Blue_true Jun 2019 #35
So Bernie will do something nationally that he has not help make a reality in his Blue_true Jun 2019 #33
George, bad man, pointing that out. Blue_true Jun 2019 #32
Bazinga! George II Jun 2019 #34
Bernie is a US Senator infinite_wisdom Jun 2019 #21
If that's the case, why is he in Arkansas lecturing Arkansans about a $15 minimum wage? George II Jun 2019 #24
Because he's running for President... infinite_wisdom Jun 2019 #38
Then he should be in the well of the Senate talking about it, not a private company in Arkansas. George II Jun 2019 #41
Do you mean like this? Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #42
Yep. What's the status of that bill? How many members of the Walmart Board will vote on it? George II Jun 2019 #43
The CEO of Walmart now publicly supports raising the minimum wage although you know Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #44
The CEO of Walmart has supported raising the minimum wage as far back as 2015. George II Jun 2019 #45
Bernie has been pushing Walmart to raise the minimum wage even further back in time Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #46
As a Congressman and Senator it's his role to push a corporation to raise it's minimum wage? George II Jun 2019 #47
As an invited proxy and you still never answered my question. Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #48
I live in Arkansas... VarryOn Jun 2019 #52
He is a very powerful citizen of Vermont. Blue_true Jun 2019 #36
Seems you are getting desperate infinite_wisdom Jun 2019 #39
It makes perfect sense. Blue_true Jun 2019 #50
Takes Sanders around a week to make that much. NT SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #8
That would equal $1.3 million. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #23
That's right, he went down in 2018 to just over half a million. Over 10 grand a week. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #25
Then let's tax them $22,500 a minute (90%) Martin Eden Jun 2019 #14
Seeing this criminal income should make everyone agree to some sort of cap or tax or SOMETHING on su bobbieinok Jun 2019 #26
Help everyone out, please label threads like this as a Bernie Sander's video. rogue emissary Jun 2019 #29
My threads are 98.75% Bernie threads Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #30
Good point. I believed your threads were 100% Bernie threads, but you know what you have posted Blue_true Jun 2019 #37
Bernie can set an example LibFarmer Jun 2019 #40
More benevolent Oligarchs is what we need! What's next, Feudalism was a great form of government? jalan48 Jun 2019 #49
Stop saying they *earn* that kind of money unblock Jun 2019 #51
 

Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
3. The Waltons
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:09 PM
Jun 2019




America’s 1% hasn’t controlled this much wealth since before the Great Depression



(snip)

In 2015, the top 1% of Americans made 26.3 times as much income as the bottom 99 percent — an increase from 2013, when they earned 25.3 times as much, according to a recent study released by the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning Washington, D.C. think tank.

A family needed an annual income of $421,926 to be part of the 1% nationally, the study said, but in some states the threshold was higher. The top 1% of Americans took home more than 22% of all income in 2015, the study found. That’s the highest share since a peak of 23.9% just before the Great Depression in 1928.

(snip)

“Rising inequality affects virtually every part of the country, not just large urban areas or financial centers,” said Estelle Sommeiller, a socio-economist at the Institute for Research in Economic and Social Sciences in France and author on the study. “It’s a persistent problem throughout the country — in big cities and small towns, in all 50 states. While the economy continues to recover, policy makers should make it a top priority to grow the incomes of working people while reining in corporate profits.”

(snip)

Another theory on the cause of the rising inequality: The decline of unions, according to a study released by the EPI in August 2017. Today, only 11% of American workers are covered by unions, which is a sharp contrast from the 1950s when a third of the U.S. workforce was unionized or in a job represented by a union. Union workers these days earn on average 13.2% more than non-unionized workers with similar education and experience in the same sector.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wealth-inequality-in-the-us-is-almost-as-bad-as-it-was-right-before-the-great-depression-2018-07-19

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George II

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6. As we used to say in Brooklyn, "put your money where your mouth is". His books are still listed....
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jun 2019

....for sale on the Walmart website.

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Uncle Joe

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10. As we used to say in Nashville, "some people can't see the forest for the trees."
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jun 2019

Bernie has been using Walmart and Amazon's platform to spread the message against their unjust and dysfunctional policies; that's the forest.

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George II

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12. He should stand on principle and stop helping to feed the profits of both Amazon and Walmart.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jun 2019

He damages his message by essentially violating it himself.

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Uncle Joe

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16. Do you support Bernie's principles?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jun 2019
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George II

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18. Here we go with the deflective questions. One principle that I support....
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:59 PM
Jun 2019

....is that if I'm going to tell other people to do something, I damn well make sure I do it myself.

If I don't like the business practices of Walmart, I won't support Walmart in any way.
If I don't like the business practices of Amazon, I won't support Amazon in any way.
If I believe in a $15 minimum wage, I'll work hard to get it done at home before I lecture others around the country to get it done.

Those are among MY "principles".

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Uncle Joe

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19. If you don't like the business practices of Walmart and Amazon and you were smart
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jun 2019

you would use the most efficient means to spread the message against them even it included their platform.

If you want to "tilt at windmills" then open the equivalent of a lemonade stand to move the people and good luck with that.

I don't know where you got the idea that Vermont is not part of the country?

P.S. Bernie's principles are the issue and if you don't support them (which I don't believe you do) as you couldn't bring yourself to answer the question, that's explains your deflective posts on this thread.

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George II

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22. If one were "smart" (as you put it) one would use EVERY means to resist - there's more....
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:47 PM
Jun 2019

....to "spreading the message" than just talking. Another expression we used in Brooklyn that I've heard all my life, "Actions speak louder than words".

So, if BS's principles really are the issue, he should be living up to the very principles that he espouses.

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LanternWaste

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20. Cool movement of the goalposts!!!
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jun 2019

But we still say that. Everywhere. And unlike the consistent citations of bumper stickers in place of objective evidence, this one is actually relevant.

(space provided free of charge below to insert another bumper sticker...)

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OKNancy

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4. Average hourly wage at Walmart for full time is $14.26
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jun 2019

God, I hate saying anything remotely nice about Walmart but that is what this link says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/05/08/walmart-wages-what-do-walmart-managers-and-hourly-workers-make/1147546001/

also:
In February, Walmart introduced paid time off that employees can use when they're sick or otherwise need to miss work. For having spotless attendance, employees can earn an additional 25% on their quarterly bonuses.

The retail giant also has increased education options for employees and trained about 450,000 employees last year through the Walmart Academy program.

----------------------

FWIW: I never went to Walmart until 1. The corner store closed. 2. I retired 3. I had a bum knee then knee replacement so I love their order online then pick it up. ( I'm a widow, so no help)

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TexasBushwhacker

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31. But only 1/3 of Walmart workers are full time
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jun 2019

and those full timers average only 34 hours per week. If they were making $14.26 an hour working 40 hours a week, they'd be making over $29K. Instead, that missing 6 hours a week translates to over $350 a month less. That's real money.

Of course most of the TWO THIRDS of Walmart workers working part time (less than 30 hours a week) wish they were working full time and wish they were getting $14.26 an hour.

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George II

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5. Minimum wage in Vermont is $10.78 per hour.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jun 2019
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Uncle Joe

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7. Which would go to $15 per hour if Bernie gets his way.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jun 2019

What's your point?

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George II

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9. The point is his own state has a very low minimum wage. What has he done to get it raised?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jun 2019
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Uncle Joe

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11. I believe you do know how our government works, don't you George?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jun 2019
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George II

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13. What does that mean Joe?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jun 2019
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Uncle Joe

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15. Bernie is not King, he's not even the governor of Vermont but more to the point
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019

his push to raises wages across the nation to $15 would most assuredly include Vermont; which is one of our states.

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George II

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17. Yes, he's not King, nor does he sit on the Board of Walmart.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jun 2019

If he can't get his people at home to do it, how is he going to get it done elsewhere?

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progressoid

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27. Why do you keep harping on that?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jun 2019

He's has nothing to do with state laws. You're embarrassing yourself.

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George II

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28. What does he have to do with the pay structure of Walmart?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:25 PM
Jun 2019
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Blue_true

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35. He is a very powerful politician in his state.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:04 PM
Jun 2019

But you say that he is helpless when it comes to jawboning a higher minimum wage in Vermont, yet he is supposed to get a minimum wage that is $3+ higher nationally, including in red states? OK

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Blue_true

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33. So Bernie will do something nationally that he has not help make a reality in his
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:00 PM
Jun 2019

home state. Ok.

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Blue_true

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32. George, bad man, pointing that out.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jun 2019


Senator Sanders is too busy fixing the nation's problems to worry about what is happening in little old Vermont. That is why when Vermont democrats needed $2 billion to kick start Single Payer in Vermont (Bernie number 1 platform issue), Senator Sanders completely bailed on them, saying that the issue was a issue that leaders in Vermont needed to solve. I am still scratching my head about Bernie's claim given that he WAS a Vermont leader, but I am sure that a Bernie fan will march right out and explain how Senator Sanders will somehow get national Single Payer when he didn't lift a finger to help democrats there make Vermont a shining test case for Single Payer. Subsequently to the Single Payer fiasco (they could not get the money and Vermont didn't have it), democrats there lost the governorship and lost ground in the Legistlature.
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infinite_wisdom

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21. Bernie is a US Senator
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:34 PM
Jun 2019

the minimum wage is determined by the state government, unless they choose to default back to the federal minimum wage ($7.25 / hour)

Not sure what he can do outside of talking to state reps about the issue.

There are only 7 states that have a higher minimum wage than Vermont. So they're doing pretty good.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/state-minimum-wage-chart.aspx



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George II

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24. If that's the case, why is he in Arkansas lecturing Arkansans about a $15 minimum wage?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jun 2019
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infinite_wisdom

(73 posts)
38. Because he's running for President...
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 07:47 AM
Jun 2019

and he's seeking a $15 Federal minimum wage.

He would not lobby the state government of Arkansas to do it. He knows that would be a waste of time.

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George II

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41. Then he should be in the well of the Senate talking about it, not a private company in Arkansas.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:30 AM
Jun 2019

Last I heard, the Board of the Directors of Walmart doesn't write and pass Federal legislation.

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Uncle Joe

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42. Do you mean like this?
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jun 2019


(snip)

The Stop WALMART Act

This time, they're introducing another aptly-named bill: the Stop WALMART Act, which is short for the "Stop Welfare for Any Large Monopoly Amassing Revenue from Taxpayers Act."

It's tailored to put pressure on the Walton family personally, which as Sanders noted in an announcement about his new bill is Walmart's largest shareholder (about 50 percent of its stock), and the wealthiest single family in the United States,

"Since 1982, the wealth of the Walton family has increased about 10,000 percent, and the family now owns more wealth than the bottom 40 percent of Americans. Meanwhile, 55 percent of Walmart's associates are food insecure," Sanders wrote.

So, this new Stop WALMART Act would prevent public companies from buying back their own stock, a move that greatly benefits current shareholders, unless:

They pay all their employees at least $15 an hour,
Their CEO is paid no more than 150 times as much as the pay of the company's median employees, and
Every employee has the ability to earn at least seven sick days per year.

(snip)

https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/after-brilliant-thing-sen-bernie-sanders-just-did-in-congress-everything-at-walmart-could-change.html



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George II

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43. Yep. What's the status of that bill? How many members of the Walmart Board will vote on it?
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jun 2019
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Uncle Joe

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44. The CEO of Walmart now publicly supports raising the minimum wage although you know
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:25 AM
Jun 2019

he has no vote in the Senate and there is no telling what he is lobbying for in private.

Bernie wasn't in Arkansas to argue for that state to raise the minimum wage to $15, he was specifically targeting for Walmart as an invited proxy, of course you know that.

My question to you is why can't he do both?

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George II

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45. The CEO of Walmart has supported raising the minimum wage as far back as 2015.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:44 AM
Jun 2019

When was the last time Sanders addressed the Vermont Legislature regarding the Vermont minimum wage?

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Uncle Joe

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46. Bernie has been pushing Walmart to raise the minimum wage even further back in time
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:59 AM
Jun 2019

As a Congressman and Senator Bernie has never pushed any individual state to raise the minimum wage, that's not his role.

Bernie has for decades been pushing the nation to raise the minimum wage to a livable wage.

If Bernie was a Governor or member of the state legislature in Vermont then your argument would have some measure of logic or common sense, sadly it doesn't.

You never answered my question "why can't Bernie do both?" target mega-corporations and the federal government to raise the minimum wage to a livable wage?

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George II

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47. As a Congressman and Senator it's his role to push a corporation to raise it's minimum wage?
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 11:04 AM
Jun 2019
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Uncle Joe

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48. As an invited proxy and you still never answered my question.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 11:06 AM
Jun 2019

Last edited Thu Jun 6, 2019, 12:15 PM - Edit history (1)

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VarryOn

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52. I live in Arkansas...
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 08:24 PM
Jun 2019

$15/hour is not enough!

I live next door to Bentonville. Had no idea Sanders was in the area.

By the way, the shareholders meeting isnt until Friday the 7th. Not sure what meeting he attended. Glad he was here!

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Blue_true

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36. He is a very powerful citizen of Vermont.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:09 PM
Jun 2019

If he can't use his clout to get a $15 wage in his home state, how will he do that in Arkansas given that republicans there will have to enact such a change?

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infinite_wisdom

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39. Seems you are getting desperate
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 07:48 AM
Jun 2019

with the anti-Bernie stuff here.

This line of attack you are trying to use makes no sense and you know it.

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Blue_true

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50. It makes perfect sense.
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 07:36 PM
Jun 2019

The man is supposedly campaiging for a $15 minimum wage in the whole country. But he has not used his influence within his own state.

Contrast that to a Congressperson like Jayapal, who used her influence in Seattle to push a $15 minimum wage and after being elected to the US Congress, continued to use her influence at home to push for a statewide $15 minimum wage. Now she may support Bernie, she is pretty far left and I don't know whether she has endorsed yet, but her endorsement certainly would not be because Bernie used factors that are within his control to get the type of change I acted that she did.

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SouthernProgressive

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8. Takes Sanders around a week to make that much. NT
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jun 2019
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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
23. That would equal $1.3 million.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jun 2019

Last year they earned, with book royalties, in the mid $500k range. You need a different calculator.

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SouthernProgressive

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25. That's right, he went down in 2018 to just over half a million. Over 10 grand a week.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jun 2019

1.3 million in 2017. Seems to be right in line with what I said. Think it was pretty similar in 2016.

Two out of the last three years he averaged that in a week. Not too shabby.

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Martin Eden

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14. Then let's tax them $22,500 a minute (90%)
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jun 2019

Nobody "earns" that much money.

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bobbieinok

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26. Seeing this criminal income should make everyone agree to some sort of cap or tax or SOMETHING on su
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:11 PM
Jun 2019

NO ONE EARNS THIS AMOUNT!!!

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rogue emissary

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29. Help everyone out, please label threads like this as a Bernie Sander's video.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:01 PM
Jun 2019
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Uncle Joe

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30. My threads are 98.75% Bernie threads
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jun 2019

so if you see my name on it, you can count on it be a Bernie thread or video.

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Blue_true

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37. Good point. I believed your threads were 100% Bernie threads, but you know what you have posted
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:14 PM
Jun 2019

better than I do.

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LibFarmer

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40. Bernie can set an example
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:10 AM
Jun 2019

Stop Walmart and Amazon from selling his books. If Bernie pulls his books, a lot of the other authors/publishers will pull them.

Facing bankruptcy, Walmart and Amazon will come to the bargaining table and offer to raise minimum wage to $30 per hour and offer free housing to all their employees.

Lead us Bernie!!!

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jalan48

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49. More benevolent Oligarchs is what we need! What's next, Feudalism was a great form of government?
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jun 2019
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unblock

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51. Stop saying they *earn* that kind of money
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 07:55 PM
Jun 2019

They're in a position to extract that kind of money, but did they really earn it?

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