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Vidal

(642 posts) Mon Jun 3, 2019, 09:04 AM Jun 2019

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The Great Progressive Attack on Biden Has Begun (Wash Post)

Per this morning's Washington Post:

"Liberals go after Biden, trying to blunt his candidacy and a centrist surge among Democrats"

"The former vice president’s standing hasn’t ebbed as some liberals hoped, so he and other moderates are now targeted in a fight for Democratic Party control."

Read More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/liberals-go-after-joe-biden-trying-to-blunt-his-presidential-candidacy-and-the-recent-centrist-surge-in-the-democratic-party/2019/06/02/b0e20be4-8543-11e9-a491-25df61c78dc4_story.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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The Great Progressive Attack on Biden Has Begun (Wash Post) (Original Post) Vidal Jun 2019 OP

Sorry to say, it started about a week before his official announcement. George II Jun 2019 #1

At least. still_one Jun 2019 #2

Ahh yep.. and it has been a fools errand.. Peacetrain Jun 2019 #10

I'm really glad that my candidate doesn't attack other candidates Indygram Jun 2019 #3

Yours and most of the others. I saw a picture this weekend of Klobuchar and Harris.... George II Jun 2019 #5

you are right Vidal Jun 2019 #7

"centrist surge"? Give me a fucking break Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #4

"because of name recognition only" TwilightZone Jun 2019 #6

I'm sure that's the talking point David Sirota is pushing down the chain BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #11

Disagree Vidal Jun 2019 #8

I like Biden, but he was never even in my top 5. HOWEVER... DrToast Jun 2019 #9

Great point Vidal Jun 2019 #12

George II

(67,782 posts)

1. Sorry to say, it started about a week before his official announcement.

Reply to Vidal (Original post)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 09:10 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,219 posts)

2. At least.

Reply to George II (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:02 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)

10. Ahh yep.. and it has been a fools errand..

Reply to George II (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:58 AM

Jun 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Indygram

(2,113 posts)

3. I'm really glad that my candidate doesn't attack other candidates

Reply to Vidal (Original post)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:09 AM

Jun 2019

Although I really don't like the way Biden is being pushed like he is the best chance to beat Trump (which I disagree with), have disagreed with him on some things and believe there are some valid topics he can be criticized about I think a lot of the stuff hurled at him is complete and utter BS.

His memes with Obama are legendary, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

5. Yours and most of the others. I saw a picture this weekend of Klobuchar and Harris....

Reply to Indygram (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:49 AM

Jun 2019

....along with their husbands posing for pictures, and Harris and Warren are close too.

Disagreement on issues is one thing, disrespect is something totally different and unnecessary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Vidal

(642 posts)

7. you are right

Reply to Indygram (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:56 AM

Jun 2019

it is BS but it is a fact of life in the Dem. primaries.

I like Beto and am not happy with the attacks coming his way either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)

4. "centrist surge"? Give me a fucking break

Reply to Vidal (Original post)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:28 AM

Jun 2019

If there was a centrist surge, then Gillibrand, Booker and Hickenlooper would be in 2nd, 3rd and 4th place behind Biden.

Biden is in first place not due to centrist policies (what are his policies anyway?), but because of name recognition only. Things will shift significantly in a month after the first debates, and even moreso by the September debates.

By the time the first votes are cast, Biden will likely be the only centrist (unless you consider Harris a centrist) left running.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

6. "because of name recognition only"

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:53 AM

Jun 2019

Sanders' name recognition is nearly 100% and Warren's is around 90%.

The "name recognition only" argument is nonsense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)

11. I'm sure that's the talking point David Sirota is pushing down the chain

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 11:01 AM

Jun 2019

And !viola! it appears here as if by magic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Vidal

(642 posts)

8. Disagree

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:57 AM

Jun 2019

Beto is a centrist and he will be around a long time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

DrToast

(6,414 posts)

9. I like Biden, but he was never even in my top 5. HOWEVER...

Reply to Vidal (Original post)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:58 AM

Jun 2019

Seeing the kind of bullshit attacks he’s receiving makes me more inclined to support him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Vidal

(642 posts)

12. Great point

Reply to DrToast (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 3, 2019, 11:13 AM

Jun 2019

The attacks from the far left will backfire and make more true Democrats support Biden and/or whoever wins the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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