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DemocratSinceBirth

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Fri May 24, 2019, 05:14 PM May 2019

New Poll **Biden's Lead Widens in Democratic Primary**Big Joe 38% Bernie 16% Mayor Pete 5% Liz 5%

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On top of a 38-16% lead over Sanders, Biden crushes with ~3-to-1 support in head-to-heads against other top-tier Democrats.



ON EDIT-Their findings for the top two mirror the A + Rated Monmouth Poll:

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_052319.pdf/

and the A- rated Quinnipiac Poll:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2622

and the B rated Morning Consult Poll:

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/
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New Poll **Biden's Lead Widens in Democratic Primary**Big Joe 38% Bernie 16% Mayor Pete 5% Liz 5% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 OP
online poll, firm launched in summer of 2014 by top Republican digital strategist Patrick Ruffini Celerity May 2019 #1
Their findings for the top two mirror the A + Rated Monmouth Poll DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #3
they do not mirror at all on Warren and Harris, literally shows them with less than half combined Celerity May 2019 #6
They got the top two right. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #7
when a poll has large skew in the middle, the numbers at the top are more than likely off as well Celerity May 2019 #8
I wish Warren could get more support. nt Lucky Luciano May 2019 #2
She was higher in the Quinn and Monmouth Poll. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #5
why not just post the reputable ones KayF May 2019 #9
I'm not convinced they're disreputable DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #15
Biden has a great Team! Cha May 2019 #4
This isn't turning out to be Bernie's year, is it? NurseJackie May 2019 #10
I don't think Pete is going to get much of Bernie's supporters Tiggeroshii May 2019 #12
I seriously doubt that. It's not a very realistic expectation or prediction. NurseJackie May 2019 #14
I'm just saying Bernie isnt likely to lose much more support, but Joe is Tiggeroshii May 2019 #18
I am with you. NYMinute May 2019 #19
Good luck! Tiggeroshii May 2019 #20
Let's see how this lead goes after the next several debates. I will trust a poll in december far Tiggeroshii May 2019 #11
Looks lime momentum to me Cary May 2019 #13
This increase likely arose from Biden's performance at his launch rally where he simply shined - Skya Rhen May 2019 #16
The last primary votes will be cast about a year from now. CentralMass May 2019 #17
Super Tuesday is March 3rd. TwilightZone May 2019 #21
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Their findings for the top two mirror the A + Rated Monmouth Poll
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:31 PM
May 2019
Their findings for the top two mirror the A + Rated Monmouth Poll:

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_052319.pdf/

and the A- rated Quinnipiac Poll:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2622

and the B rated Morning Consult Poll:

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/


Seems like they're doing a good job.
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Celerity

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6. they do not mirror at all on Warren and Harris, literally shows them with less than half combined
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:41 PM
May 2019

that Monmouth does



Monmouth




Major difference percentage wise on that spread, Echelon has them at only 47.6% of the Monmouth numbers

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DemocratSinceBirth

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7. They got the top two right.
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:42 PM
May 2019
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Celerity

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8. when a poll has large skew in the middle, the numbers at the top are more than likely off as well
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:53 PM
May 2019

Last edited Fri May 24, 2019, 06:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Especially noticeable is the trendline on the Echelon, it does not reflect the momentum that Harris and Warren are showing on a broad-based view of multiple other polls. Obviously Bernie and Biden are still one and two, but there is almost zero chance that all others are only at 5% or less. Biden looks overplumped in this one.

Echelon is a self-selecting online poll, those tend to be far less reliable. Just take a look at the one that shows Bernie tied with Biden.

Echelon sent off polls to 1005 people, and only 44.5% replied.

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Lucky Luciano

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2. I wish Warren could get more support. nt
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:31 PM
May 2019
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DemocratSinceBirth

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5. She was higher in the Quinn and Monmouth Poll.
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:35 PM
May 2019
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KayF

(1,345 posts)
9. why not just post the reputable ones
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:54 PM
May 2019

especially if they show the same results?

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DemocratSinceBirth

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15. I'm not convinced they're disreputable
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:22 PM
May 2019

I'm not convinced they're disreputable, especially when they have the imprimatur of the Harvard Kennedy School Institute Of Politics:


https://iop.harvard.edu/get-involved/internships-careers/directors-internship-program/echelon-insights

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NurseJackie

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10. This isn't turning out to be Bernie's year, is it?
Fri May 24, 2019, 05:55 PM
May 2019

Do you think he'll try again in 2024?

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Tiggeroshii

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12. I don't think Pete is going to get much of Bernie's supporters
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:07 PM
May 2019

But I imagine he will have a lot to gain from Biden's support after he shines in the next several debates. That will bring Bernie and Pete up and Joe down.

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NurseJackie

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14. I seriously doubt that. It's not a very realistic expectation or prediction.
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:22 PM
May 2019
That will bring Bernie and Pete up and Joe down.
I seriously doubt that. It's not a very realistic expectation or prediction.

I don't think Pete is going to get much of Bernie's supporters
For obvious reasons, that I won't go into here (for other obvious reasons) I agree with you.
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Tiggeroshii

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18. I'm just saying Bernie isnt likely to lose much more support, but Joe is
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:48 PM
May 2019

Any support Joe loses will bring others and Bernie closer to first.

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NYMinute

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19. I am with you.
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:49 PM
May 2019

I have convinced myself that I'll win the next powerball jackpot.

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Tiggeroshii

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11. Let's see how this lead goes after the next several debates. I will trust a poll in december far
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:05 PM
May 2019

more easily than I would trust a poll today or even in July.

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Undecided
 

Cary

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13. Looks lime momentum to me
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:15 PM
May 2019
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Skya Rhen

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16. This increase likely arose from Biden's performance at his launch rally where he simply shined -
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:35 PM
May 2019

just as he will shine during the debates. I can't wait...

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CentralMass

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17. The last primary votes will be cast about a year from now.
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:45 PM
May 2019
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TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
21. Super Tuesday is March 3rd.
Fri May 24, 2019, 09:11 PM
May 2019

It's going to be over for the vast majority of candidates within a day or two of Super Tuesday. They won't make it anywhere near the last primaries, so to most of them, the dates of the last primaries are irrelevant if they don't survive ST. I suspect they're much more focused on the early primaries than when the last ballots are cast.

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