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highplainsdem

(49,045 posts)
Fri May 17, 2019, 11:39 AM May 2019

Experienced strategists tell Reuters they believe Biden's frontrunner position is likely sustainable

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-idUSKCN1SN112


Experienced presidential strategists told Reuters that while they expect some other Democrats to eventually become top contenders, Biden’s strength is likely sustainable.

They cited two main factors: The massive Democratic field makes it difficult for any one candidate to stand out, and voters tend to be risk-averse when seeking a candidate to topple a sitting president.

In recent elections, early front-runners such as Democrat Al Gore, himself a former vice president, in 2000 and Republican Mitt Romney in 2012 largely kept a lock on the nomination, despite some bumps along the way.

In 2008, Democratic favorite Hillary Clinton was overtaken by Barack Obama to secure the nomination, but Obama took advantage of a relatively small field to steadily amass support as the top alternative to Clinton. When Clinton ran again in 2016, Sanders tried to do the same thing with a similarly small field and almost succeeded.
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Experienced strategists tell Reuters they believe Biden's frontrunner position is likely sustainable (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2019 OP
"they expect some other Democrats to eventually become top contenders" left-of-center2012 May 2019 #1
I am glad to read that.. because that is what I am seeing on a local level Peacetrain May 2019 #2
How can they say Sanders almost succeeded? He lost to Clinton by more than 3.7 mil. votes? RelativelyJones May 2019 #3
With a great deal of help from enemies foreign and domestic, Hortensis May 2019 #6
It's too bad that the media is so poor at reporting facts. yardwork May 2019 #17
K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #4
Almost 100% of these same experts were wrong in 2016 about who would win thje GE too. KPN May 2019 #5
Yeah they're quoting experienced strategist Robert Schrum who has won zero presidential campaigns. progressoid May 2019 #10
I've been reading this from experts struck by the Hortensis May 2019 #7
I'm not sure where they get the data to support their "risk-aversion" argument Raven123 May 2019 #8
Strategists who say "I don't know" don't get much business. marylandblue May 2019 #12
I wish they'd explain how the candidate with multiple attempts kcr May 2019 #13
I missed this.. Cha May 2019 #9
Judging from supportive comments here on DU, marylandblue May 2019 #11
Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democrats have Gothmog May 2019 #14
An experienced well-liked white male is percieved to be less risky. marylandblue May 2019 #16
We have to beat trump and for me the choice is to win Gothmog May 2019 #20
Sorry, that comment was meant to be a reply to a different post. marylandblue May 2019 #21
30 Helens agree Politicub May 2019 #15
as long as Biden keeps the support he has among black voters JI7 May 2019 #18
From the article: aidbo May 2019 #19
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. "they expect some other Democrats to eventually become top contenders"
Fri May 17, 2019, 11:41 AM
May 2019

That's sure to happen as some of those in low digits drop out.

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Peacetrain

(22,880 posts)
2. I am glad to read that.. because that is what I am seeing on a local level
Fri May 17, 2019, 11:43 AM
May 2019

people are starting to settle in already on who they want .. and I am seeing that people are very pro Biden.. and it looks to me on the local level a huge move from Sanders to Warren . now that is just my view from a local level.. but Biden looks very good.. and keep your eyes on Warren..

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RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
3. How can they say Sanders almost succeeded? He lost to Clinton by more than 3.7 mil. votes?
Fri May 17, 2019, 11:51 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. With a great deal of help from enemies foreign and domestic,
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:03 PM
May 2019

that's how, including corruption-embedded MSM, the Republican Party, wannabe-and-now-real kleptocrats, the FBI, and of course Russia.

AND, of course, all those conservative spoilers who voted for him in the primary to try to knock out Hillary but had no intention of voting for Sanders ever. Pew had to estimate and subtract their numbers from districts across the nation to come up with estimations of his genuine support.

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yardwork

(61,715 posts)
17. It's too bad that the media is so poor at reporting facts.
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:21 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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KPN

(15,665 posts)
5. Almost 100% of these same experts were wrong in 2016 about who would win thje GE too.
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:02 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

progressoid

(50,000 posts)
10. Yeah they're quoting experienced strategist Robert Schrum who has won zero presidential campaigns.
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:23 AM
May 2019
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Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. I've been reading this from experts struck by the
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:07 PM
May 2019

breadth of his support across various demographics. Young, middle age, older, various colors and religions, women, men, LGBTQ, and all across the ideological spectrum of the Democratic Party. People like him.

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Raven123

(4,884 posts)
8. I'm not sure where they get the data to support their "risk-aversion" argument
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:08 PM
May 2019

Since 1900 5/19 re-election bids (if you count Ford) were unsuccessful. At least 3 took place IMO during a time when the economy was an issue (Hoover, Carter, Bush). Taft wasn’t a good campaigner, from my reading, and Ford was running in the aftermath of Watergate.

Is it possible that each re-election attempt is unique in circumstance? i wish the “strategists” would provide some context for their opinions.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
12. Strategists who say "I don't know" don't get much business.
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:53 AM
May 2019
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kcr

(15,320 posts)
13. I wish they'd explain how the candidate with multiple attempts
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:51 AM
May 2019

under their belt is the candidate for the risk-averse.

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Cha

(297,810 posts)
9. I missed this..
Sat May 25, 2019, 12:17 AM
May 2019

Biden has a lot going for him beside "being risk averse" .. Thank Goodness!

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
11. Judging from supportive comments here on DU,
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:52 AM
May 2019

I'd say risk aversion is one of the primary motives driving his candidacy.

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Gothmog

(145,667 posts)
14. Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democrats have
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:58 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
16. An experienced well-liked white male is percieved to be less risky.
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:33 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,667 posts)
20. We have to beat trump and for me the choice is to win
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:42 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
21. Sorry, that comment was meant to be a reply to a different post.
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:15 PM
May 2019

Nonetheless, it applies. "I want to win, therefore Biden," is a spurious argument, because it implies that backing a different Democrat means you don't want to win.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
15. 30 Helens agree
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:02 AM
May 2019

“A sensible candidate makes sense”

Anyone remember this Kids in the Hall sketch?

https://m.





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JI7

(89,279 posts)
18. as long as Biden keeps the support he has among black voters
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:44 PM
May 2019

he will be tough to beat.

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aidbo

(2,328 posts)
19. From the article:
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:18 PM
May 2019
Robert Shrum, Kerry’s top strategist at the time, said Democrats began to panic at the thought of running Dean against Republican President George W. Bush.
Which candidate could beat Bush became “the defining question,” Shrum said.


That worked out well!
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