Democratic Primaries
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Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) on Tuesday pushed back against criticism of his forthcoming climate plan by progressives who have characterized it as a "middle ground" approach to addressing global warming.
"You never heard me say middle of the road. I've never been middle of the road on the environment," Biden told reporters in New Hampshire. "Tell her to check the statement that I made and look at my record."
"I don't think she was talking about me," Biden added.
His office did not immediately respond to an inquiry about which statement of his he was referencing.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) criticized Biden's forthcoming climate plan last week and again at a Monday night rally in support of the Green New Deal.
"This is a dealbreaker. There is no 'middle ground' w/ climate denial & delay," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted last week.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-responds-to-ocasio-cortez-criticism-tell-her-to-check-my-record/ar-AABlQP0?li=BBnb7Kz
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,096 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,010 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,096 posts)should be.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)everything else is noise and distraction.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,096 posts)denial & delay. She was responding to the report Bidens forthcoming climate plan is reportedly being pegged as a middle ground approach to addressing global warming.
Someone who knows of his great climate plan must have called it a middle ground approach to addressing global warming and that what she addressed. I wonder who would know what his plan entails that they could call it a middle ground approach?
She addressed that. Of course, no one heard him say middle of the road and AOC never said he did. Biden got that wrong in his response when he made it personal in his response
Then later
"If the same politicians who refused to act then are going to try to come back today and say we need to have a 'middle of the road approach' to save our lives, that is too much for me," she added.
She's right, a middle of the road approach isn't going to work. That would be too little too late
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....decades ago, even before she was born. You can look it up.
So when is there going to be legislation (not merely a "resolution" introduced in the House? Next week? July? Or will we see it in the Autumn?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,096 posts)it wasn't. Hopefully, legislation will be passed when we get a president who feels an urgency about climate change. That president should be willing to use any means necessary to get it done without depending on his friends across the aisle.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)now what?
If someone follows up with a "middle ground approach" that can pass, should Dems vote it down?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,096 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)please feel free to substitute whatever "not a middle ground" proposal you support or can think of...and then it fails.
Then, someone comes along with a "middle ground" proposal that has the votes.
Your Senator needs to vote yes or not on it...what do you want to have happen?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
are trying way too hard. Biden is the best candidate to beat trump and he's a real Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,096 posts)Last edited Thu May 16, 2019, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)
an opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)That would lead one to correctly conclude that he's the best to beat trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,096 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....Biden is the best candidate to beat trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...but you are correct! This came out today:
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murielm99
(30,742 posts)going to be posted here?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,010 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)they support the same candidate?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,223 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)who they support?
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LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,223 posts)i don't like all the rancor. didn't like it in 2016 and hate it even more now. makes me depressed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...."middle ground" approach that can get PASSED or stubbornly stick to an extreme approach that has no chance of ever getting passed?
To put it another way, do we want 50% or 60% or maybe even 70% of a "middle ground" approach or 0% of the extreme approach?
The extreme approach is, indeed, a "dealbreaker" - sticking to that will result in NO "deal".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Her use of the word "dealbreaker" is clearly an 'all or nothing' philosophy that always results in failure to make progress. It's a very "Sarandonesque" way of approaching politics, and I think that's dangerous.
BTW: Fuck Susan Sarandon!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RLG
(314 posts)They were also Jill Stein supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)What is she doing as a Congresswoman?
I haven't heard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...directing callers to her website. The problem is she doesn't have a computer.
It's more than four months now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... her district office is open.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)In fact she has TWO District offices open. That's how to serve one's constituents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden