Poll: Majority of Republicans Support Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Latest Plan

[Uncle Joe]

(snip)

“We are introducing legislation to challenge the greed of Wall Street and protect consumers across America,” Sanders tweeted at the time. Ocasio-Cortez called the plan “common sense.” Voters seemed to agree.

The support from voters of both parties is practically even, According to the poll results released Wednesday, 70 percent of Republican primary voters and 73 percent of Democratic primary voters support the plan.

“Oh, what’s that? All these spooky ‘socialist’ proposals are winning over vast majorities of GOP voters because they are common-sense, humane policies?” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted Wednesday. “Ya don’t say.”

(snip)

The poll creates a challenge for Republican lawmakers in the Senate who have shot down policy proposals passed by House Democrats. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) promised that no progressive policies would go through his chamber if Republicans remain in control after the 2020 election.


https://ijr.com/poll-majority-of-republicans-support-bernie-sanders-and-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-latest-plan/

[Thekaspervote]

1. I don't know what they are up to but I don't buy it... not for a minute

My guess, they are wanting to evelate discussions about socialism in the hopes that it will drive voters back to the gopeeee

[Uncle Joe]

3. It must all be part of their master plan because in secret

everyone loves paying high interest on their credit cards.

[JudyM]

31. .

[left-of-center2012]

2. It's from a right wing news source

IJR.com Independent Journal Review

According to Media Bias Fact Check:
"Has significant right wing bias through story selection that favors conservatives and is against liberals.
They may utilize strong loaded words, publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.”

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/independent-journal-review/

[Uncle Joe]

5. The poll is from Business Insider via Survey Monkey

(snip)

Nearly 70% of Republican primary voters and 73% of Democratic primary voters said they either support or strongly support the proposal to cap rates at 15%, according to a new INSIDER poll. Just over 60% of respondents who don't plan to vote in the 2020 presidential primaries also said they support the bill, known as the Loan Shark Prevention Act.

Just 13% of GOP primary voters were opposed to the idea, while 7% of Democratic primary voters were opposed.

(snip)

INSIDER specifically asked Americans whether they support or oppose a law that would cap credit-card interest rates at 15%, noting that the current median interest rate for a credit card is about 21.36%.

(snip)

The median credit-card interest rate was 21.36% as of last week, compared with 12.62% a decade ago, according to Creditcards.com. Meanwhile, Americans collectively hold more than $1 trillion in credit-card debt, according to the Federal Reserve.

(snip)


https://www.businessinsider.com/republicans-love-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-plan-cap-interest-rates-2019-5

[left-of-center2012]

8. I see you changed your link

but not in your original post?

[Uncle Joe]

9. I just clicked through the link of the OP as a reference.

You didn't like the OP link so I wanted to see what they based their article on.

[lapucelle]

30. The OP link is to a far right source.

Why is anyone here using right-wing secondary sourcing rather than less biased primary sourcing? Why direct DU readers to far-right sources?

[TexasTowelie]

26. I almost posted a thread from IJR one time,

then out of curiosity I double-checked the Media Bias Fact Check. Thank goodness that I didn't make that mistake.

[Honeycombe8]

4. Most Republicans will NEVER vote for a Democrat, much less activist or far left ones.

I don't believe it for a minute. Unless on this one narrow issue, they may agree in ideology w/the activists. Trump's position was the same, he said. But he was lying, of course.

But don't think that this means they'd vote for BS or Cortez for anything. They wouldn't vote for "those socialists" (in their way of thinking) for anything.

[mtnsnake]

7. It's more about voting for a plan, not so much about them voting for a Democrat

[LongtimeAZDem]

17. It's kinda like this

[Honeycombe8]

21. It's one thing to agree with someone on one issue.

But it's very different for someone to vote for a politician who is the antithesis of what he believes in, because of one issue. Not gonna happen.

There are some establishment Repubs who will probably vote for a moderate Democrat, to get Trump out of office.

This is not an issues election.

[Hortensis]

29. As leaders, though, Sanders and Trump are not quite such

antitheses as one might assume. Populist movements are negative, antagonistic waves and can arise from and support any political system. That's because they're more about smashing the government for "the people" than anything else. Exactly what happens after is not the populist following's main focus. Trump's running a RW nationalism-focused movement, Sanders a LW class-based one, but both populist.

Btw, interesting fact I came on: Although populist movements are all focused around taking down "elites," their leaders are almost always members of the elites themselves but seen (or posturing) as outsiders, "outsider-elites" as political scientists apparently call them. And that's exactly what both billionaire Trump and United States Senator Sanders are.

We live in interesting times.

[yaesu]

6. interesting!

[mtnsnake]

10. At the very least, I think that could be a sign of some good things to come

The more that we can convince republican voters that we're out for them, too, the better it will be for everyone, no matter which candidate you favor the most. Whenever a Democratic plan can strike a chord with the other side, that is a good thing.

[Uncle Joe]

11. I agree mtnsnake.

Anything that weakens Mitch McConnell is a good thing.

[Hortensis]

25. Agree completely with the importance of convincing voters

on the right that we're out for them too. We must redevelop our broken center.

I do have some reservation about when it could be a not-good thing, though. Sanders is running a populist campaign and hoping to draw disaffected populist voters away from Trump. After all, the Tea Party and Trump were both populist rebellions, and both have failed dramatically.

Where would tea partiers/trumpsters who felt betrayed by Trump but are intensely hostile to Democrats go now? No alternative from the right has appeared. But Sanders from the left, well known from the past for badmouthing and promising "revolution" against the Democrats, is inviting trumpsters to join his revolution.

Hostile populists from both left and right have combined around a "strongman" to take over parties and bring down governments many times. The leader's ideology isn't the organizing principle so much as the resentment and antagonism to whomever is targeted as elites. For Sanders people, the big problem that must be solved is with the Democratic Party.

So I'm thinking "great" when Biden and the others talk to conservative voters and not so much Sanders. So far Trump's still very strong, but big no anyway to the idea of ex-trumpsters voting Democrat to help Sanders fix what's wrong with us.

[JudyM]

32. Sanders' revolution is absolutely NOT "against the Democrats" -- it is against corrupt influence

and for people’s rights.

[Hortensis]

33. :) He just feels revolution, starting within the Democratic

Party, is needed. And remember, revolution is his word.

Btw, remember when he chose the summer of 2016 to call for the party to set aside fighting to elect Democrats to office and instead to stop and focus on remaking the Democratic Party from the inside out? Because it was too corrupt to continue as is to the election, much less to govern, a continuation of his messages for months?

Perhaps you could guess because I can't: Just what was THAT about? At that point he couldn’t possibly win the nomination himself. Can we at least agree that it was at best symptomatic of enormous, dreadful misjudgment?

We need to consider this now because this man is running for president again as a Democrat, and this is his record. Democrats considering him need to examine his record and feel they are able to understand and trust his thinking. Like we need to for other candidates.

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[JudyM]

35. No I do not remember that. A quote directly from him to support what you're asserting would be

useful. Sanders has been entirely about fighting tRump, and he believes that getting corporate conflicts of interest out of our political decision making is important. Those are not mutually exclusive.

[Hortensis]

36. Here you go: "getting corporate conflicts of interest

out of our political decision making is important" and "it is against corrupt influence." Those aren't directly from him, of course, but it sounds like you were listening and know he was not speaking about Republican corruption at a time when they and Trump were the great threat we had to defeat.

One of my problems is that the RW forces, with their multibillion-dollar budgets, claimed and claim they have to protect America from massive Democratic Party corruption. AND, if that isn't enough, we know Russia was and is still amplifying these lies from both left and right. Our counterintelligence experts say Russia has never stopped.

All these enormous lies about Democrats while the RW is sending out fascistic warning flares like an exploding cache of fireworks. You may have been too distracted to notice it, but the enormous corruption and deceit and massive election theft that have taken over the right are all characteristic of fascist politics.

[JudyM]

37. Hortensis, those quotes don't say we need to fix the Dem party before fighting tRump.

[msongs]

12. was the original text bolded? nt

[Uncle Joe]

14. No, I bolded it. n/t

[guillaumeb]

13. Recommended.

The GOP is the all but official Party of racism, but even racists can see that they are not doing better.

[LongtimeAZDem]

15. LOL. Republicans supported Obamacare when it was called Romneycare too

INSIDER specifically asked Americans whether they support or oppose a law that would cap credit-card interest rates at 15%, noting that the current median interest rate for a credit card is about 21.36%.

Overall, about 68% of respondents said they either support or strongly support the plan and 10% oppose it.

They liked the idea in isolation, with no reference to Sanders or Ocasio-Cortez.

And, for a Sanders spokesman to point to the result and say "this is what electability looks like” is disingenuous at best.

[Uncle Joe]

18. I believe the spokesman was taking into account a whole range of issues

and policies that Bernie has championed that are exceptionally popular with the American People as a whole, ie; Medicare for All, raising taxes on the wealthy, tuition free college and vocational schools, $15.00 minimum wage, combating climate change, less spending on the military industrial complex and more on infrastructure, breaking up monopolies, taking on Wall Street etc.etc.etc.

2. Romneycare's poll rankings were in Massachusetts a relatively blue and liberal state, I believe this poll was national.

Considering that Bernie (the last time I checked) has a 99% recognition rate among the American People, I don't believe most of them missed out on the news that he and Alexandria have proposed a 15% cap on credit cards, there was and is a fairly good amount of publicity on the subject.

I suspect as the primaries progress and the debates take place, even more light will be shined on the entire package of popular policies that Bernie Sanders supports and in this case I believe the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts and the parts are indeed great in their own individual right.

[rgbecker]

16. Thanks Joe for trying again.

This one is doing much better than Yesterday's. Wonder what is making the difference. Maybe that the poll shows such broad support, Dems and GOP?

Great post.

[Uncle Joe]

19. Thank you rgbecker.

[George II]

20. The fact is, a majority of republicans, and Democrats, and Americans, support....

....lower credit card interest. This is no big shock, it's been true for decades. Attaching names to it is irrelevant, I wanted a lower interest on my credit cards back in the 1970s. So when has a bill been introduced in the House and Senate?

[JI7]

24. good point, aren't both of them in congress ?

wonder why they don't work on writing and passing it .

[NYMinute]

22. In other news, a majority of wolves

support the sheep's plan of eating more grass and getting fatter.

[TexasTowelie]

27. Oh my!

[LibFarmer]

23. hahahahahaha

[SharonClark]

28. Maybe you should read about the "poll" before posting about it third hand

"SurveyMonkey Audience polls from a national sample balanced by census data of age and gender. Respondents are incentivized to complete surveys through charitable contributions. Generally speaking, digital polling tends to skew toward people with access to the internet. SurveyMonkey Audience doesn't try to weight its sample based on race or income. This survey had a total 1,127 respondents, a margin of error plus or minus 3.12 percentage points with a 95% confidence level."

It doesn't sound like a scientific poll.

[ucrdem]

34. Glad to hear there's a plan B.