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highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:36 AM May 2019

'A dream ticket': Black lawmakers pitch Biden-Harris to beat Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/12/joe-biden-kamala-harris-dream-ticket-1317561


The Congressional Black Caucus may have found an answer to its Joe Biden dilemma: Vice President Kamala Harris.

Some black lawmakers are agonizing over whether to back Biden or two members of the close-knit caucus — Sens. Harris and Cory Booker — who are also vying for the White House, according to interviews with a dozen CBC members.

But with the former vice president jumping out to a huge, if early, lead in the polls, several CBC members are warming to the idea of a Biden-Harris ticket to take on President Donald Trump.

“That would be a dream ticket for me, a dream ticket!” said Rep. Lacy Clay (D-Mo.). “If she is not the nominee, that would be a dream ticket for this country.”

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'A dream ticket': Black lawmakers pitch Biden-Harris to beat Trump (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2019 OP
They're not alone in thinking that's a great, winning ticket. MineralMan May 2019 #1
They also appear to be in tune with the other and are friendly. Blue_true May 2019 #21
No doubt the ticket most feared by the Republicans. honest.abe May 2019 #2
I think so, too. highplainsdem May 2019 #24
That's the best combo I can think of at this point. underpants May 2019 #3
I agree Andy823 May 2019 #4
Kamala Harris must be part of this somehow, TheCowsCameHome May 2019 #5
I like Harris. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #6
That's the ticket njhoneybadger May 2019 #7
Be interesting to see if she has anything to say about it Baclava May 2019 #8
:) My thought. This dream ticket has been raised since Hortensis May 2019 #13
I tend to agree, Presidential candidates are too invested in their own runs to play 2nd fiddle Baclava May 2019 #14
Yes, only one captain of the ship of state. She does seem to Hortensis May 2019 #15
I think sharrod Brown is easily the best VP possiblity Mosby May 2019 #22
Can't give up his Senate sear with a Republican Governor picking his replacement redstateblues May 2019 #33
#TwoWhiteMen? Hortensis May 2019 #37
Cory Booker is African American. Mosby May 2019 #39
Yes, he is. :) Hortensis May 2019 #40
We'll see, primary battles come first, VPs aren't usually chosen till around the convention Baclava May 2019 #35
Boy, is all that true. And I imagine candidates are Hortensis May 2019 #36
I like this ticket Gothmog May 2019 #9
A winning ticket!! Bayard May 2019 #10
... Scurrilous May 2019 #11
The Black Caucus is repeating what many of us at DU have been saying peggysue2 May 2019 #12
Yes, I can imagine Harris debating Pence. highplainsdem May 2019 #19
I also think the GOTV of this team would give us the best chance Buckeyeblue May 2019 #16
No idea who's gonig to Cha May 2019 #17
but what if she ends up winning the nomination ? JI7 May 2019 #18
Then I think she picks a young second. Blue_true May 2019 #23
My guess is that if Biden win the nomination, Harris will be his VP choice. Blue_true May 2019 #20
I prefer Harris/Biden Retrograde May 2019 #25
Biden-Harris has been my dream ticket too, but I know she'd be outstanding as Attorney General. NBachers May 2019 #26
I agree she'd be an outstanding AG (if she isn't the nominee for prez or VP). highplainsdem May 2019 #34
Sounds great. applegrove May 2019 #27
Harris hasn't impressed me at all. How about Stacey Abrams, Susan Rice or Valerie Jarrett? nt Quixote1818 May 2019 #28
Biden guaranteed 90%+ black vote at140 May 2019 #29
I've been saying that all a long demosincebirth May 2019 #30
That's not a bad ticket. I'm leaning toward that, myself. calimary May 2019 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter May 2019 #32
I think that's where it's heading. It would be a very strong team. NurseJackie May 2019 #38
 

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
1. They're not alone in thinking that's a great, winning ticket.
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:38 AM
May 2019

The two of them would cover all the demographic and political bases, I think.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. They also appear to be in tune with the other and are friendly.
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:16 PM
May 2019

Biden seems to be the type that really values friendship.

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honest.abe

(8,679 posts)
2. No doubt the ticket most feared by the Republicans.
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:39 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(182,843 posts)
3. That's the best combo I can think of at this point.
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:39 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
4. I agree
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:47 AM
May 2019
If she is not the nominee, that would be a dream ticket for this country.”

Of course if she is the nominee, then I think it would also be good for the country!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
5. Kamala Harris must be part of this somehow,
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:13 AM
May 2019

she is bright, articulate, and very much presidential material.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. I like Harris.
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:14 AM
May 2019

I wish there were a different experienced candidate who would be the Pres. nominee, though.

I have been leaning away from Biden lately. I didn't like Harris at first, but my eyes started turning toward her and Mayor Pete, and to some extent Warren, as they have shown themselves to be noticeable (in different ways).

I'll see what happens at the debates.

I was hoping for a Governor to take center stage, but altho we have a governor (or two?), they don't seem to capture national attention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
7. That's the ticket
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:45 AM
May 2019
Harris 2024
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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
8. Be interesting to see if she has anything to say about it
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:48 AM
May 2019

has she been asked?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. :) My thought. This dream ticket has been raised since
Sun May 12, 2019, 02:31 PM
May 2019

the beginning, and I've wondered what effect it has on her campaign. She is running for president, not VP, after all. Seems rather disrespectful. She's an ex- CA attorney general and sitting U.S. senator, not female assistant to either.

That said, I fully understand the appeal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
14. I tend to agree, Presidential candidates are too invested in their own runs to play 2nd fiddle
Sun May 12, 2019, 02:55 PM
May 2019

and winning candidates don't usually pick strong personalities that could overshadow their own aspirations and share the stage in their run for president

They pick VPs that will agree with what they want and do what they're told to pump up the Presidential candidate, a sidekick

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Yes, only one captain of the ship of state. She does seem to
Sun May 12, 2019, 03:27 PM
May 2019

complement him nicely in some ways, though. She can seem too strong and tough for a woman, but I could imagine it playing off nicely alongside his warm fuzzies. And all but the most delusional misogynists should have trouble imagining her wringing her hands helplessly if he became ill.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Mosby

(16,320 posts)
22. I think sharrod Brown is easily the best VP possiblity
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:21 PM
May 2019

You can get the Obama bump from Booker, who doesn't bring the baggage of Harris. The midwest once again will be key, and that's where Brown could deliver.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
33. Can't give up his Senate sear with a Republican Governor picking his replacement
Mon May 13, 2019, 12:16 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. #TwoWhiteMen?
Mon May 13, 2019, 12:56 PM
May 2019

Could we at least hope that Trump's orangeness would save them from being cast with the Republicans as #FourWhiteMen? I'm assuming on Trump's VP, of course.

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Mosby

(16,320 posts)
39. Cory Booker is African American.
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:23 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. Yes, he is. :)
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:27 PM
May 2019

Shame he isn't from the midwest, and perhaps somewhat more left in spite of it , but his gritty and varied experiences as a mayor certainly connected him to real-world problems.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
35. We'll see, primary battles come first, VPs aren't usually chosen till around the convention
Mon May 13, 2019, 11:35 AM
May 2019

A lifetime in politics away, anything can happen between now and then.

Presidential candidates don't win based on speculation who their running mates might be, lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Boy, is all that true. And I imagine candidates are
Mon May 13, 2019, 12:53 PM
May 2019

quite protective of not doing anything that might weaken their prerogatives or lock them in early.

The Republicans are really different. Romney's dilemma when the Kochs pushed Ryan on him was a hoot; and Ryan's when Romney sent him off to campaign Siberia.

Or Trump's when he was trapped haplessly with another Koch-approved replacement. If there is a god, creepily disciplined Pence will have spent years of his life in Nancy Reagan-ish posturing waiting to become president, only to end up with his political career in ruins. And wondering why his lord forsook him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
12. The Black Caucus is repeating what many of us at DU have been saying
Sun May 12, 2019, 01:57 PM
May 2019

Biden/Harris, a knockout ticket.

Plus, can you imagine Kamala debating Pence?! LOL. I almost feel sorry for him. Not really.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
19. Yes, I can imagine Harris debating Pence.
Sun May 12, 2019, 08:58 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
16. I also think the GOTV of this team would give us the best chance
Sun May 12, 2019, 04:35 PM
May 2019

To keep and maybe expand the majority in the House and maybe flip the Senate. And maybe help some state legislatures.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,375 posts)
17. No idea who's gonig to
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:15 PM
May 2019

be the most viable ticket when the time gets near.. but I really appreciate that so many brilliant people are thinking on what could be the best for our country and Planet!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(89,254 posts)
18. but what if she ends up winning the nomination ?
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:17 PM
May 2019
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Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. Then I think she picks a young second.
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:22 PM
May 2019

If she wins, I think Biden, Bernie and Liz are out. Harris likely picks a male Veep choice, likely a governor like Bullard or Hicjenlooper. She could also pick Mayor Pete, Castro or Beto if they really impress in the debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. My guess is that if Biden win the nomination, Harris will be his VP choice.
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:14 PM
May 2019

They seem really in tune with eachother and appear to be good friends.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
25. I prefer Harris/Biden
Sun May 12, 2019, 10:58 PM
May 2019

Biden is a great lieutenant, but I don't see him as the leader we need to repair the damage Trump did. His strengths are as an advisor to the president - not a bad thing to be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

NBachers

(17,126 posts)
26. Biden-Harris has been my dream ticket too, but I know she'd be outstanding as Attorney General.
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:04 PM
May 2019

Or President!

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highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
34. I agree she'd be an outstanding AG (if she isn't the nominee for prez or VP).
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:59 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Quixote1818

(28,950 posts)
28. Harris hasn't impressed me at all. How about Stacey Abrams, Susan Rice or Valerie Jarrett? nt
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:12 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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at140

(6,110 posts)
29. Biden guaranteed 90%+ black vote
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:19 PM
May 2019

Harris or no Harris. Harris brings in about 3% additional black votes. But Harris could also cause some voters to stay home. Overall it's a wash.

Biden will win with anyone in the VP slot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

demosincebirth

(12,541 posts)
30. I've been saying that all a long
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:23 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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calimary

(81,350 posts)
31. That's not a bad ticket. I'm leaning toward that, myself.
Sun May 12, 2019, 11:43 PM
May 2019

Last edited Mon May 13, 2019, 02:48 AM - Edit history (1)

Looks like Biden, for his appeal to the “working man,” and Harris (or Warren) as running mate , to give us women what we longed for, achieved legitimately, and had stolen from us in 2016.

We may have to get a foot in the door with a woman Vice President first, so the rest of the nation can ease into the idea. It would help our fellow voters get used to the idea of a realistic female running mate, even if it’s not the BIG prize. At least not yet.

Hey, personally, I’d rather have a woman as chief executive, flat-out, accept-no-substitutes, right NOW. We’re into Year Three of President Hillary Clinton, as far as I’m concerned, because I regard her as the rightful and legitimate winner in 2016, and she (and all the rest of us) have been robbed by the Orange Cheater and his Merry Band of Russians. But if we have to go through second-in-command first, in order to position ourselves for the topy prize, then so be it. And if that’s what it takes to get this poor morally faltering country more comfortable or at least neutral toward a woman Commander-in-Chief, then okay. Make it so. I’ll gladly take it. I just want us to get there. We’ve knocked down the barriers to an African-American President. Now we have to clear the hurdles in the way of a woman President. And those blocking a gay President. And eventually a Latino/Latina, a President from the indigenous community that was here before anybody else arrived, and other embodiments of our melting pot status.

Seems to me it might be a shrewd way to help America to get comfy with the idea of a woman on the ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. I think that's where it's heading. It would be a very strong team.
Mon May 13, 2019, 01:00 PM
May 2019
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