Question: How does O'Malley debate Sanders.

[misterhighwasted]

When they compete for the other's voters, how does he go up against Sanders.

[monmouth4]

1. Verrrrry carefully.....n/t

[seabeyond]

2. from the little i read, he is right there with sanders on what sanders campaigns on

like he says, he like to walk into a fight or whatever. i think he will do fine.

also, he threw out, he has been doing while sanders has been talking about it. i think he has already started the conversation

[misterhighwasted]

7. Thanks. That tells me O'Malley is indeed in this for O'Malley.

He has enough ammo against Hillary. That's easy.
With Sanders, the point you stated does carry some serious weight.

[RandySF]

3. The two might hurt each other.

[Iliyah]

4. I think it will come down to who sounds more convincing

[elleng]

5. EXPERIENCE,

He's been DOING while Bernie's been talking, as has been said. He/they won't be hostile, but O'Malley has winning hand as far as this experience goes, imo.

[FSogol]

6. He addressed this on w/ "This Week" George Stepanopoulos today

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: President Obama had some fun at your expense at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

OBAMA JOKE: Not to be outdone, Martin O'Malley kicked things off by going completely unrecognized at a Martin O'Malley campaign event (laughter)

GOVERNOR O'MALLEY: I was there. (LAUGHTER)

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, you know, it's-- w-- I don't know what your reaction to the joke was, but he's hitting on a real problem. You're about 1%-- in-- in-- in the polls right now—

GOVERNOR O'MALLEY: I've been there before.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Sketch out a path of victory.

GOVERNOR O'MALLEY: The-- look, I think-- the presidential primary processes and the caucuses in Iowa-- have a certain-- have a certain greatness to them. And it is this-- that people there have seen 1% candidates before-- get into the van, go from county to county to county and make their case about their better choices that they would offer the nation, and suddenly become very well-known overnight when people make up their mind.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: How are you even gonna get into the pole position right now? I mean, Bernie Sanders-- taken out a lotta the same progressive positions you have-- has kind of shot up-- in both the national polls and-- and Iowa and New Hampshire the last-- few weeks. Is-- that's a challenge to your candidacy.

GOVERNOR O'MALLEY: Well, I think it's an encouragement to my candidacy, and for this reason. I think that-- the public is looking for new leadership, leadership that doesn't apologize for having progressive values.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: --why should progressive voters pick you over Bernie Sanders?

GOVERNOR O'MALLEY: Because I have a track record of actually getting things done, not just talking about things.

[misterhighwasted]

8. Hmm. Puts Sanders on the defensive which he hasn't had to do so far.

Thanks FSogol.
Glad there are 3 in this race. O'Malley is a great contender & the race just got a lot more interesting.
Anxious to watch this play out.

[NYC_SKP]

9. They both have strengths and weaknesses...

None of the weaknesses as serious as Hillary's.

O'Malley has done a lot, that's true, but none of it on the national level, and that's a weakness compared to Bernie.

Bernie has, actually, done a great deal while in the senate, it's not helpful to slam him and say he's done less that O'Malley.

Both have done a lot but at different levels and in different ways.

I haven't found much difference between them in terms of policy positions.

O'Malley might be tougher on crime, a bit more authoritarian compared to Sanders, but not as authoritarian as Hillary would likely be.

[misterhighwasted]

10. No one said Sanders has done less. I guess I wonder what the debate would be between the two of them

Everything is a hypothetical at this point.
They will be debating each other along the way.
And you are correct, they all have strengths & weaknesses. Guess that can be said for any candidate, regardless of Party.
Its the presentation of those strengths & weaknesses that voters look for.

I now know there is a point of difference between the two & will be watching for that to emerge as we go along. Thanks.

[NYC_SKP]

12. There was an interview where Martin implied that he gets things done rather than just talking.

It's not like me to make things up.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: How are you even gonna get into the pole position right now? I mean, Bernie Sanders– taken out a lotta the same progressive positions you have– has kind of shot up– in both the national polls and– and Iowa and New Hampshire the last– few weeks. Is– that’s a challenge to your candidacy.

GOVERNOR O’MALLEY: Well, I think it’s an encouragement to my candidacy, and for this reason. I think that– the public is looking for new leadership, leadership that doesn’t apologize for having progressive values.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: –why should progressive voters pick you over Bernie Sanders?

GOVERNOR O’MALLEY: Because I have a track record of actually getting things done, not just talking about things.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/05/31/martin-omalley-turn-democratic-primary-ugly-attacking-bernie-sanders.html

It will be interesting, Sanders has been very reluctant to respond to provocation to attack Hillary. Here Stephanopoulos asked directly how the two differ and he got an answer.

[misterhighwasted]

11. No One Said Sanders Has Done Less Than O'Malley.

That was never mentioned. At All.
Except by you.
I Asked a question l & am not interesting in being part of controversary where there was none in the first place.

Happy we have the O'Malley Group & that he is in the race.
Anxious to learn more about him.

[KittyWampus]

14. are you serious? Sanders has so many votes that can be picked apart and used a cudgels.

It's hard to take your post seriously.

[misterhighwasted]

15. I am just asking the question. I don't know a lot about O'Malley's history but am glad to find out,

now, that Sanders does have areas of weakness that O'Malley may bring up should the two end up debating each other.

If I am supporting a candidate I would like to know how strong he fares next to his competitors.
Hillary's weaknesses are known. Sander's were not.
Now I know more than when I first asked.

I like O'Malley and will certainly be following him as the year unfolds.

This is the O'Malley Group. Thanks.

[NYC_SKP]

16. They are two very different individuals. One's a veteran state senator, with some executive exp.

The other has been exclusively an executive, worked more directly with the people as you suggest.

They both, therefore, can show different accomplishments and both also have different things that can be picked apart.

I'm a big fan and would be happy with either as our candidate.

O'Malley might end up being the stronger candidate, it remains to be seen.

[KittyWampus]

13. He has been an executive. He has worked directly with people. He's not a Washington insider.

[Raine1967]

17. He will go against Sanders just as he will go against Clinton.

Having said that, I will repost here what I posted to you query in another OP:

The only answer I personally see is that while Senator Sanders has been a mayor and a representative and a senator — and I say this with much respect for him… O'Malley was an assistant state attorney, a councilperson. a mayor and a governor.

Burlington and Vermont are far different from Baltimore and Maryland. I believe that on a local and State level — the things they dealt with were very different.

I am a member of the democratic party. I am not ashamed of saying that. Martin O'Malley has always been a member of the party I affiliate with.

Having said that, there is something that bothers me. While Sanders always caucused with Dems when he was elected to office as a representative and later as a Senator, he was never a part of trying to build the infra-structure of the Democratic party to what his vision is. He has always made it clear that he is not a member of the party. The party has been very happy to have him caucus with us, but…

He has not helped with the legwork in building the party platform.

He is reaping the gains of the party without having contributed to the party as a member. Just to be clear, I am talking about PARTY politics. If anyone wants to know why party partisans are reluctant to say that he is a viable candidate, I think it's because he has never been willing to say he is a Democrat. I respect that. He's not.

Right now, to the best of my vision, he is running as a Democrat because that is his best chance to be elected on a national scale. I think this is the first time he has ever run as a Dem — and he still is not a member of the party.

That is not a slam, this is a fact.

Considering we have O'Malley, I feel a little uneasy about a man that is running for the nomination of the Democratic party. Martin is a life long member of the Democratic Party.

He has a track record with working across party lines to get things done. I like that. I appreciate that. I want that in a president.

Martin O'Malley is a life long member of the Democratic party. He worked to get the longest serving female senator elected. Heck… His mother still works for Barbara Mikulski.

It's not incumbent for O'Malley to slow down anything. (you mentioned that is the thread I resounded to, you wondered how 'Malley would slow down Sanders. )

It is for o'malley to move forward with his ideas and his record.

Going back to your question, I have a feeling, and this is nothing more than a feeling that his not being a part of helping to build and change the Democratic Party platform will become an issue for people who are Democrats. I agree with everything that Bernie says; Most Dems do — but he never wanted to be a part of the party I am in. Now he wants my vote. I don't know if I like that.

I am a liberal.
I am a progressive.
I'm a member of the Democratic party and I am looking forward to our primaries.

[misterhighwasted]

18. Well stated & a good night to you.

I like that his loyalty has always been a Dem. I also appreciate that O'Malley is not a Washington Insider, as you say.

[Koinos]

19. Thank you, Raine.

I can't find anything to disagree with in your beautifully worded statement.

I believe that Sanders is a bit of a loner and will not be of much help in getting more democrats elected to the House and Senate. In the past, which democrats has he campaigned for in national elections?

I can't envision him accepting the nomination at the Democratic National Convention and addressing the delegates by saying "We Democrats." Joining the party is something he should have done a long time ago. And still he resists.

Without that solidarity and a sense of common purpose, from its presidential nominee on down, the Democratic party will become more divided than it is now.

I like Bernie and agree intellectually with almost everything he says, but I have trouble with his inability to compromise and play well with others with whom he happens to disagree.

O'Malley's call for inclusiveness (generosity, compassion, and love) and his emphasis on what binds "we the people" together, despite our differences, as well as putting problem-solving ahead of labels of "left" and "right," seem better antidotes to the poisons of greed, violence, and ignorance that have infected our country.

Paradoxically, O'Malley's democratic values appear more "social-minded" than Bernie's "democratic socialism."

[Raine1967]

20. Thank you for the kind words.

I meant everything I said.

and I wrote it with trepidation. This is truly how I feel.

I am going to work this week and knock on doors and make phone calls to help get my choice for delegate to the Virginia house elected.

This is the kind of infrastructure I am talking about. I do not know the kind of campaigns that Bernie Sanders has run, but I feel very strongly that it was not based upon the democratic platform. HE was elected as an independent. He does causes with the Dems, and I appreciate that — but, he has always run as an independent. That is a fact.

[greatauntoftriplets]

21. Great post.

[JustAnotherGen]

22. Easy peasy!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6766862

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6766958

In the debates - You two have been talking about this for a long time - why didn't you just do what I did in Maryland in 2007 or 2008 after the Republicans lost the House and Senate? Why wasn't this done in 2009 or 2010?



The 2009 is important for Sanders.

2007/2008 is important for Clinton.



I can't find any Federal legislation either one worked on AND got passed/implemented that moved America towards what I think are easy goals.