Sorry Hillary supporters...

[Playinghardball]

[pandr32]

1. There are valid concerns about this

One is actually getting it done--not likely, and the other is this:
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/15/9737432/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-minimum-wage

[Cassiopeia]

3. Those concerns are bullshit.

When I worked for $4 an hour at Mcdonalds as a teenager they said increasing minimum wage by $.25 would raise the price of a meal from $5 to $15.

20+ years later and minimum wage is nearly double, gas and shipping prices are double or even triple, etc etc etc.....

and a meal at McDonalds still costs about $5.

[SoapBox]

4. Agreed.

[Enthusiast]

12. Don't come in here with your facts and reason!

[1monster]

15. When I worked for McD's minimum wage was $1.85. The owners were sure that a 10 cent raise

an hour would break them. So they raised all prices on all sandwiches, drinks, and fries about 10 cents each and made a killing. Those of us on the new minimum wage still nearly starved. I think I came out ahead about $5.00 every paycheck or $10.00 per month.

[reACTIONary]

16. These concerns are legitmate . ...

For two decades, liberals have been citing a famous study by David Card and Alan Krueger showing that a 1992 increase in New Jersey's minimum wage didn't cost jobs in the fast food industry....But Alan Krueger, the co-author of that famous fast food employment study and a former adviser to the Obama administration..... supports Hillary Clinton's plan to raise the minimum wage to $12 per hour. But in a New York Times op-ed last month, he argued that "a $15-an-hour national minimum wage would put us in uncharted waters, and risk undesirable and unintended consequences."

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/15/9737432/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-minimum-wage

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/opinion/sunday/the-minimum-wage-how-much-is-too-much.html

[Cassiopeia]

19. These are the same concerns that are brought up every time there is talk

of helping the lowest wage workers out financially.

Every single time that the minimum wage actually gets increased we hear calls of the end of our economy by people just like Alan Krueger and the only thing that happens is the people at the bottom get a little bit more and their employers make far more.

The sky will fall if we pay people more is complete bullshit. It has been proven over and over and over again throughout history.

[DUbeornot2be]

22. For someone...

... who pulls in $250,000. to speak for an hour or so I can see why she thinks so... I mean, at $12./hr someone would have to work roughly ten years to earn her day's pay... If someone is lucky enough to stay healthy for a fifty-year work history and average $12/hr they could make as much as commoner hrc gets for five of her speeches...

It's no wonder she's smiling so much this time around... !

[rhett o rick]

5. The Oligarchy wants to keep the min wage down. Seems HRC agrees. Do you agree. nm

[PatrynXX]

6. the $15 is a frapping compromise!!!

hell Alex Jones even has it (yikes infowars) at $21.72 as where it should be. raising the $15 should coincide with letting Bush's TEMPORARY tax cuts expire as well. ie if the price of a movie ticket has doubled since 1999 why hasn't the min wage??

[roguevalley]

8. given that HRC wants $12, $15 is better. Its not enough but it beats her sad offer

[Fawke Em]

7. Why would you ask for something lower, then?

Me? I'd ask for higher and see if I get what I really want.

You don't START in the middle.

Geesch.

[Scootaloo]

10. Seems a pretty basic principle of negotiating

[FuzzyRabbit]

20. You would think so,

but you would be wrong. Democrats start out by declaring what they would settle for, and then wind up settling for much less.

For example, a few years ago a Democratic president offered to cut social security benefits as part of a "grand bargain" with the Republicans.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/03/gops_extortion_tactics_social_security_could_be_next_liberals_fear/

[cascadiance]

23. And didn't even ask up front for the public option, let alone single payer in ACA...

Don't think this president ever planned much to "negotiate" the role the insurance company LEECHES would have in health care reform.

He's worked a LOT harder negotiating what corporate people want for free trade in TPP, etc. though. That speaks to where some of the "Democrats" of today are doing or not doing for us.

[LiberalElite]

18. You wandered in here by mistake, right? eom

[darkangel218]

2. Kick!

[yuiyoshida]

21. i double your kick

Kickity Kick!

[AgingAmerican]

9. But ponies and unicorns and stuff!

Doncha know that compromise with Republicans (who never compromise on anything) is the best we can ever expect?

[LS_Editor]

11. Damn right.

[Enthusiast]

13. Kicked and recommended!

[Dont call me Shirley]

17. A living wage, decent working conditions, paid vacations sick time and parental leave. THAT levels

playing field!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Duval]

24. K&R!

[War Pigs]

25. I'm reminded of 2000 when

95k well meaning Floridians voted for Ralph Nader who had ZERO ZERO ZERO chance of winning ANYTHING!!!!! 538 Florida votes later we have a president shrub instead of Gore and yes the future of our country was altered horribly. Will the supporters of our runner-up put another asshole repuke in charge by staying home or supporting a 3rd party???? just asking????

[Human101948]

26. You are right, this crazy talk about voting for HIllary Clinton is dangerous!

Next thing you know we'll have a President Trump!

[appalachiablue]

27. K & R Absolutely and it should be more than $15 actually to live fairly decently

with the rapidly increasing costs of healthcare, rents, products and services and the diminishing social safety net. Right wingers have always claimed that raising the min. wage will ruin them. It's bull like the cries that businesses would fold up and die without exploiting and abusing children and women workers in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.