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Robbins

(5,066 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:00 PM Dec 2015

It's so baffling to me

polls saying even in good polls for bernie she is more likely to win general election despite all the polling to contrary.

Also saying she is better to deal with iris and has better experience to be president

1:Clinton is like Bush.Her support for national security state and war is going to create more recruits for isis.The fight against isis needs to be done by arab forces In middle east.and we shouldn't give national security state more power

2:Saying she has right experience to be president?yeah if your corporatist she does.

Being first lady doesn't mean you should be present.being mayor of town has more promptly governing experience.Bernie has had to run a city.she has never run anything.She was dismal SOS.And SOS is largely being top diplomat for obama.Bernie as independent mayor has experience with prepares him to deal with GOP House.

Being independent bernie often had to run in tough elections.I am sorry but running for senate In new york as first lady is hardly tough compared to bernie.her reelection In 2006 was a cakewalk.

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orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
1. She has failed at every job she had, except first Lady, and every job she got hinged on that, every
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:04 PM
Dec 2015

job was short lived because of aspirations for another better one, and this is just another one.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Ignoring a subpoena for two years while First Lady, then claiming to have
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:24 PM
Dec 2015

mysteriously found the documents in the dining room in the family quarters is not my idea of a stellar First Lady. I guess it all depends on your definition of success.

The Dining Room in the family quarters, Hillary hosting

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
3. My observation is that Sanders is much more popular than HRC at DU
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:07 PM
Dec 2015

Does this translate to the real world? We won't know until the primaries start. Maybe the pollsters are right in making vast extrapolations from tiny groups of polled people. Maybe not. They have mostly been off lately, but in different directions (too far right in 2012, too far left in 2014). And of course there is the issue of e-voting fraud.

I do see that the big media conglomerates are constantly belittling Sanders, trying to find that 'killer issue' that will sink him. My personal theory is that the big media folks, all being part of the upper 5% (at least the ones you see on TV and hear on the radio) live in that beltway echo chamber where a strange distorted type of 'common sense' prevails. These are the same folks who attack the President for being a "P…." for not instantly frothing at the mouth at their beck and call over whatever is the tragedy or outrage de Jour. And they of course do not want to see their taxes raised (for the most part). No one brings up self-interest in these discussions. They very much want 'one of the Insiders" to win, especially one offering nice targeted tax breaks and more war/aggression.


If the media can keep turnout low, HRC will win the primary, and then lose the general if the repubs nominate someone less scary than Trumpolini or Carsomnia. I have no doubt of that. Repeat of many state races in 2014. If on the other hand people get jazzed about a candidate that has ideas that help turn America away from being a war state, turn out en masse, Democrats will win. Obama, for all his faults, knew how to energize voters and get them to turn out. That is how we win. Not with fear, that is the repubs game.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
4. It's simple...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:31 PM
Dec 2015

They make shit up. They're all getting paid by a Corporation to shill for HRH, so they make shit up. She's not winning. No blue collar, Joe six pack, Heartland, ORDINARY, EVERYDAY 99% voters support her. Not one, that I know, supports her. Bernie is going to win!


They're all Corporate SHILLS for HRH. Seriously, they are and they're doing a great disservice to this country and the voters.

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