Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:11 AM Dec 2015

Certain DU Hillary supporters seem to be getting talking point memos.

Just saying.

Today it was about Bernie not talking about ISIS.

Bernie has talked a lot about ISIS. They just don't listen.

But I notice uniformity in their posts. It's uncanny.

Let's watch and see if we can follow what is going on in that respect. Is there something organized? I could be wrong. Maybe I am just imagining it.

But I think we should watch for the structure of their arguments. It seems odd to me. There seems to be some sort of communication about what should be said on a certain day. Or am I wrong?

67 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Certain DU Hillary supporters seem to be getting talking point memos. (Original Post) JDPriestly Dec 2015 OP
Oh, I'm sure things like that are only wildly coincidental. No TPMs, no plotting off the board-- merrily Dec 2015 #1
Oh I agree MissDeeds Dec 2015 #5
Sillyness tazkcmo Dec 2015 #2
I got a post hidden TM99 Dec 2015 #3
I have a look at their profiles, too artislife Dec 2015 #6
It's like a jukebox with the same five or six bad selections bvf Dec 2015 #4
Sometimes I open another browser and don't sign in artislife Dec 2015 #7
lol, I must admit....I do that too virtualobserver Dec 2015 #40
And yet, the OPs are basically the same artislife Dec 2015 #46
Republicans have been good at sticking to the message since Reagan. Scuba Dec 2015 #8
At least they aren't paid,,so I'm told, bahrbearian Dec 2015 #9
Well, think about it Scootaloo Dec 2015 #30
What grates on my nerve is the active stalking and forced banishment of long-time DU contributors Proserpina Dec 2015 #10
What the heck?!? I've seen HRC supporters have their "flagged for review" status resolved within kath Dec 2015 #15
Got mine resolved in under 24 hours Scootaloo Dec 2015 #31
Tell Demeter I miss her Hydra Dec 2015 #24
Is she still on flagged status?? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #29
Whaaat? abelenkpe Dec 2015 #33
For almost 2 weeks now darkangel218 Dec 2015 #45
I'm sorry to hear this, Proserpina. senz Dec 2015 #49
"Too Effective"? Yup, that's my Mom! Proserpina Dec 2015 #53
I'm sure that's a major criteria for targeting a person. senz Dec 2015 #61
It took me a bit, but I think what they were trying to do Fawke Em Dec 2015 #11
"no media person will interrupt a press conference about ISIS"... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #14
+100000000 azmom Dec 2015 #28
I too want to repeat this wonderful statement: JDPriestly Dec 2015 #17
What I find so laughable... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #44
It's the bubble they live in. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #47
It is crap... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #55
Rumpelstiltskin they ain't. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #62
They're trying to make ISIS the new communism senz Dec 2015 #50
The thing is artislife Dec 2015 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2015 #12
Yep MissDeeds Dec 2015 #19
Well, the admins did set up a pro-Clinton web site. jeff47 Dec 2015 #27
And if the majority of DUers support Sanders, so do the majority of DU's donors. arcane1 Dec 2015 #32
oh, that's news. Thanks. nt grasswire Dec 2015 #39
I'm sure there are, they're not difficult to spot at all. nt. nc4bo Dec 2015 #13
I do not think you are wrong Samantha Dec 2015 #16
And the Alert Swarm got another one of our Bernie supporters... SoapBox Dec 2015 #18
I've seen worse allowed to stand.. nc4bo Dec 2015 #22
It's sort of like the South during Jim Crow -- they just keep waiting to get the juries they want villager Dec 2015 #26
Wow, that's sad. abelenkpe Dec 2015 #35
nooooo grasswire Dec 2015 #37
What an absurd hide. I'll miss retrowire JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #41
I'll let everyone know what happens...or he'll let you know! SoapBox Dec 2015 #42
Woah a2liberal Dec 2015 #65
How the hell did that get a hide? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #67
Noticed that a long time ago! No point in arguing with talking points. sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2015 #38
So did I. RiverLover Dec 2015 #54
And you can reverse engineer... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #56
Great post. nt artislife Dec 2015 #58
Excellent analysis, well-communicated. senz Dec 2015 #59
My guess is that Bernin4U Dec 2015 #21
It does seem that way, doesn't it. nt historylovr Dec 2015 #23
I used to watch the swarms to see what talking points would show up in the MSM the next day or so Hydra Dec 2015 #25
Probably all watch similar TV shows abelenkpe Dec 2015 #34
the same thing went on with Snowden-Greenwald fuss grasswire Dec 2015 #36
This is part of the ground game...it's part of all political campaigns... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #43
This thread brings up several things that have been troubling me. senz Dec 2015 #48
I should have included a link to the thread I was referring to senz Dec 2015 #60
Just read Retrowire's post. There is absolutely nothing controversial about it. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #64
of course, it's 2008 all over again......straight from the republican play book bowens43 Dec 2015 #51
I force the them to talk about Flip flopping, the TPP her lack of Honesty, and their lack of issues orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #52
I have a huge ignore list because the ignored follow certain patterns olddots Dec 2015 #63
It doesn't matter if you ignore them, they can still alert on your posts. Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #66

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Oh, I'm sure things like that are only wildly coincidental. No TPMs, no plotting off the board--
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:15 AM
Dec 2015

nothing blatantly transparent like that at all.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
5. Oh I agree
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:25 AM
Dec 2015

Nothing coordinated on other sites, just a really amazing coincidence that so many posts spew...er...mention the same thing over and over.

Wonder what it will be tomorrow.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
2. Sillyness
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:21 AM
Dec 2015

Conspiracy theories are silly. It's not like they have their own cave to huddle in or that DU's owners support Clinton.

Oh, wait...

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
3. I got a post hidden
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:31 AM
Dec 2015

for calling out an obvious campaign operative. Their resume was online and listed them working on the Obama campaign as well.

Of course their are operatives here. Of course they post 'talking points' here and at the cave for dissemination.

An account from years ago suddenly becomes active and a Clinton supporter this summer, and we are supposed to believe it is a coincidence?

No, this shit is propaganda. It is Rovian. It is scripted and controlled. It is another method in the must win at all costs play book.

It is scary, and it shows the lengths so will go for the 'anointed one'.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
6. I have a look at their profiles, too
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:32 AM
Dec 2015

Pretty interesting. It is like they are 1099ers and are all on the computer all day long.



I should know, during the summer I was taking online classes and doing back office stuff. The pull of the site proved to be just an open tab away at all times. There is the same computer movements as someone who can easily be on the computer all day long.



Or they are just retired.

Or....

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
7. Sometimes I open another browser and don't sign in
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

Just to see what I am missing by having over 40 people on ignore. Not too much difference in the OP counts...I find that rather interesting.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
40. lol, I must admit....I do that too
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:37 AM
Dec 2015

ignore has seriously lowered my blood pressure....but I do get curious.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
46. And yet, the OPs are basically the same
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:03 AM
Dec 2015

maybe 3 threads I don't see, on average. The OP makers are smart enough to not have put the fly swatter in their sig lines. I know I am not the only person who just put on ignore every single one who had it. They want their OPs to be seen by all the Bernie supporters. I have wished some of them would have so I could easily click and ignore but they either have to be very angry or very boring for me to do it.

I love the reactivated ones. It reminds me of the grandma in I sing the Body Electric.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
30. Well, think about it
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:00 AM
Dec 2015

Who would pay for that level of quality.

They think they're producing subtle pieces of art...


But this is what everyone else is seeing:

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
10. What grates on my nerve is the active stalking and forced banishment of long-time DU contributors
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:23 PM
Dec 2015

to the ultimate detriment of the website and the Democratic Underground brand...and yet, this campaign must have the backing of the Admins. because it continues despite the outcry by the ever-dwindling number of those still left "in good standing".

My own mother, put on review TWELVE days ago, for bogus reasons, is still in limbo.

That's Demeter, as in the goddess whose joy at the return of her kidnapped daughter causes Spring to bloom...and why she should have to wait for Spring for a review of this injustice is beyond me. Terms of Service work both ways, you know.

kath

(10,565 posts)
15. What the heck?!? I've seen HRC supporters have their "flagged for review" status resolved within
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:51 PM
Dec 2015

HOURS, or at most a day or so.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
31. Got mine resolved in under 24 hours
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:02 AM
Dec 2015
seems to be more of a "when I get around to it, if I don't forget" thing, rather than any actual "thing"
 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
45. For almost 2 weeks now
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:44 AM
Dec 2015

In the meantime, posters who had 3 hidden posts in matter of hours, and who sent vile PMs to others here in DU, are being reinstated.

Go figure.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
49. I'm sorry to hear this, Proserpina.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 06:17 AM
Dec 2015

Demeter is one of the best, and I've never seen anything abusive or over-the-top in her posts. This doesn't make any sense, unless she was judged as too effective or something like that.

I'm so sorry. Please tell her we miss her. If there's anything we can do, please let us know.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
53. "Too Effective"? Yup, that's my Mom!
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:31 AM
Dec 2015

I'll tell her you said so...she could use a laugh.

The best thing to do is talk about it, spread it around the site, unless you know how to get the Admins. to do anything...

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
61. I'm sure that's a major criteria for targeting a person.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:06 PM
Dec 2015

Trying to silence our strongest voices. I wonder what goes into a "review?"

Yes, we should bring up what happened to Demeter in comments elsewhere on the site.

Hang in there, Proserpina.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
11. It took me a bit, but I think what they were trying to do
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:31 PM
Dec 2015

yesterday is work with the M$M to push a "Dean Scream" type of narrative onto Bernie.

Anyone with half a brain could watch the video of Bernie chiding the media for not staying on topic regarding poverty at the presser yesterday and see that he did not appear "agitated" or "testy" or whatever other abrasive adjective the media tried to foist on him. They simply lied about how he reacted. Bernie is gruff - it's his style and his delivery - and he's that way on all serious subject matter. I've seen him far more edgy in other venues. His poking back at the media for interrupting a press conference on inner-city poverty with idiotic questions about ISIS was fairly gentle (those pastors and community members didn't come there to hear about ISIS. That subject isn't very high on their list of priorities).

But, oh how the media and the Hillarians wanted to make it about "mean ole Bernie doesn't know foreign policy."

Didn't work.

The comments, Tweets, etc. were about 10 to 1 AGAINST the media for straying off-topic. The media, it was noted by many, talks about ISIS nearly 24/7. Why would it hurt them to give just a few focused minutes on issues like poverty which effect far more Americans than terrorist attacks? Why doesn't the media consider inner-city issues "real world" events? Even the pastors and community leaders in attendance spontaneously applauded when Bernie pointed that out.

By the time Bernie got to The Tonight Show, that narrative was gone. He'd given a great interview with Rachel Maddow, where she actually let him talk about the problems he saw on his trip the Baltimore neighborhood and he relaxed with Jimmy Fallon by playing The Whisper Game (FEEL THE BERN!).

Bernie said he and Keith Ellison are tentatively planning a joint conference to discuss Islam and discrimination. If the media wants to talk about "what to do with extremists," that would be the time to ask that question because, I bet you money that no media person will interrupt a press conference about ISIS with a question about inner city poverty.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
14. "no media person will interrupt a press conference about ISIS"...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 02:35 PM
Dec 2015
..."with a question about inner city poverty."

Truer words were never spoken.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. I too want to repeat this wonderful statement:
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:38 PM
Dec 2015

"no media person will interrupt a press conference about ISIS with a question about inner city poverty."

Truer words were never spoken.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
44. What I find so laughable...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:34 AM
Dec 2015

...is that they are forever making mountains out of dust specks.

Bernie does very little wrong. He's human. So, of course he's going to be imperfect.

And when he is imperfect, they take the slightest, most inconsequential detail and treat it as if Bernie just murdered twenty people.

It just shows how desperate they are to spin *something*, *anything* Bernie does into a negative.

It's so silly. No one else is buying this snake oil. They might be impressed with themselves for repeatedly getting that "Bernie is an old grump" narrative out. The problem is--no one cares. No one thinks that Bernie is sexist, or racist or that he won't talk about ISIS, or that he's an old grump.

Basically, these people are like rats, sitting around feeding on their own feces. No one wants the crap that they're putting out there, but boy, they sure do enjoy it themselves. It's...kinda weird.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
50. They're trying to make ISIS the new communism
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 06:23 AM
Dec 2015

the bogeyman we're all supposed to fear so that we can give the next President something closer to absolute power. I'm impressed that Obama is rejecting the attempt. I suspect Hill & the Republicans are on board with it.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
57. The thing is
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:08 PM
Dec 2015

that the people who believe ISIS is the new communism will vote for one of the Repubs. H doesn't win this argument anywhere.

I can't wait for her crash.

Response to JDPriestly (Original post)

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
19. Yep
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:53 PM
Dec 2015

I think the admins care - look how many Bernie supporters have been banned. Hillary's supporters, not so much.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
27. Well, the admins did set up a pro-Clinton web site.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:53 PM
Dec 2015

HillaryMojo.com. Was quite a slick site for the time it was up.

It's down now.

Since it's down now, my wild-ass guess is they expected they'd be able to use DU to generate "rough drafts" for HillaryMojo. Some people write a pretty good story on DU, contact them and have them polish it a bit for HillaryMojo. When DU didn't go that way, they lost their content source.

But again, that's a wild-ass guess. I have no evidence of why it has been abandoned.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
32. And if the majority of DUers support Sanders, so do the majority of DU's donors.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:05 AM
Dec 2015

It might be a bit embarrassing to create that other site and it gets attention from the Clinton campaign, and the campaign observes that DU is mostly Sanders supporters, whose donations provided the seed money to the "mojo" site.

DU's owners might want to be associated with the Clinton campaign, but the Clinton campaign would have no reason to want to be associated with DU.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
16. I do not think you are wrong
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

I have noticed this as well. I don't think it is a coincidence (probably because I am just so one dimensional).
And that, of course, disqualifies me for ever being Commander & Chief!

Sam

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
18. And the Alert Swarm got another one of our Bernie supporters...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 03:47 PM
Dec 2015

retrowire...locked out for 24 and account is now under review.

This post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251887046 (noting that there were 53 replies and I was only showing about 10...the swarm was all over him.) But I could still rec the post!

I got an email from him...so glad that I've exchanged addresses with multiple people, outside of DU.

They can try to stop us here but they cannot and will not suppress our voices in the World.

Go Bernie!

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
22. I've seen worse allowed to stand..
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:58 PM
Dec 2015

I must be missing something or jury was not wanting to hear opposition opinion

Several really over the top op's continue to stand.

You all know what's up so act accordingly!



 

villager

(26,001 posts)
26. It's sort of like the South during Jim Crow -- they just keep waiting to get the juries they want
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:50 PM
Dec 2015

Then any ol' "charges" will stick...

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
65. Woah
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 05:48 AM
Dec 2015

Clintonites complain about "bullshit hides" and "alert swarming" and "being silenced" when an occasional one of their toxic hate posts are hidden... this is a total bullshit hide if I ever saw one, I saw nothing in that post that was hide-worthy (and I would say the same thing if it was the same tone criticizing Bernie). Anyone happen to have jury results? I am very curious as to how the alerter and those who voted to hide tried to justify it.

Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #20)

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
54. So did I.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:38 AM
Dec 2015

You can just imagine what the mass email from HRC camp says to them each day by what's posted here. Its fascinating.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
56. And you can reverse engineer...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:00 AM
Dec 2015

...those talking points.

A repeated talking point was crafted during a strategy meeting. Talking points are supposed to achieve a desired result.

Ask yourself...what is the result that they're seeking.

And you can pretty much figure out what their weaknesses are; what they're trying so hard to do. They may be trying to inflict damage in an area where the opposition is gaining ground or where the candidate is having trouble.

For example, look at the "Bernie is sexist" nonsense. Hillary said, "When women talk, some people think we're shouting." She repeated this at campaign stops, Tweeted it out, posted it on Facebook and had several surrogates accuse Bernie of sexism.

Does Hillary really believe that Bernie Sanders is sexist? No. However, the talking point is intended to achieve a desired result--weaken Sanders with women by suggesting that he's sexist. Notice that surrogates do the heavy lifting and the dirty work. The talking point comes from Hillary and the campaign, but they get to keep their hands clean if this blows up in their faces.

Same with so many other talking points. "This race is over" is a big talking point. They seem to be pretty proud of this one, despite the irony that they fail to see (Hillary said the same thing in 2008, repeatedly. Oooops). When you read this stuff, ask yourself, 'What is the desired result?" They want Sanders supporters to give up. They want them to feel that there is no hope. Because when you have no hope--you don't volunteer, you don't canvass and you lose your enthusiasm. You don't get involved with the campaign and you may not even caucus or vote.

Obviously, the enthusiasm, organization and potential to upset Hillary is a "concern" for those repeating that talking point. You don't see them doing this to O'Malley do you? There's no reason. He's at 4 percent. He's not a threat.

Sanders supporters are a big threat to them, so don't let it bother you. Be flattered that you are being discussed in strategy meetings and that they're spending so much time and energy on you.

And do something for Bernie's campaign. Contact your local office. Contact the Iowa offices. They need help writing hand-written letters to possible supporters or even making phone calls. One person can make a difference.



Bernin4U

(812 posts)
21. My guess is that
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:09 PM
Dec 2015

1. They've had plenty of experience with fake scandals. And it's a whole 'nuther matter when there's the chance to dish it out.

2. They begrudge that their superstar isn't as good at shutting down offensive attacks as our little scrapper.

3. "But we're winning" is getting old, and coming up with anything legit just isn't panning out.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
25. I used to watch the swarms to see what talking points would show up in the MSM the next day or so
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:45 PM
Dec 2015

It's been quite a thing for months now...or maybe years? Lots of hate for whistleblowers when it's a person's personal candidate who can do no wrong.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
36. the same thing went on with Snowden-Greenwald fuss
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:57 AM
Dec 2015

Talking points for the authoritarians, every day.

Many of the same DU members, too.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
43. This is part of the ground game...it's part of all political campaigns...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:22 AM
Dec 2015

I worked in public relations/media relations for many years.

It's very easy to spot organized messaging. I find it fascinating. I remember planning/discussing strategy and key messages. I often see organized "key messages" online (sometimes for products; sometimes for political candidates). So no...you are not imagining this.

It's sooo very obvious. It's interesting to reverse engineer their talking points. Obviously, those talking points are designed to have an effect; on the opposition's supporters or on people who are undecided.

This is part of the ground game. Like it or not.

However, if you know it's happening and if you are aware that a gaggle of astroturfers are purposely "disseminating talking points" then the impact is neutralized.

I think there are many posts designed specifically to make Sanders supporters give up and feel like he has no chance. I feel lucky that I'm in Iowa, because I can refute most of their baloney with the truth--what I'm seeing happen in Iowa. This race isn't over. Anyone who tells you that is most likely issuing a talking point. They gain immensely if you don't caucus, don't vote, don't volunteer, don't make phone calls, or lose your enthusiasm. It's a tactic designed to decrease participation and voter turnout.

Just don't let it bother you. Haters gonna hate. Spinners gonna spin. These people don't have magical powers. Nor do they have crystal balls. Be amused by them (if you suspect someone is doing this) and focus on working hard to get your candidate elected. Then, your candidate wins--despite the "key messages" that were thrown at you.



 

senz

(11,945 posts)
48. This thread brings up several things that have been troubling me.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 06:12 AM
Dec 2015

Certain posters put up OPs that sound like anti-Bernie bumper stickers, and they manage to keep their short, accusatory anti-Bernie messages up for days -- and yes, I've wondered what's going on. The repetition of negative messages is a propaganda technique. It could be an attempt to control the the overall discussion on DU and influence DU readers and lurkers. There's a saying in media studies that goes "The media doesn't tell you what to think, they tell you what to think about." The name for the technique is "the agenda-setting function of the media." So these frequent OP creators could be trying to set the agenda at DU. And, yes, it does have a manufactured, coordinated quality that creeps me out.

I've also seen Bernie supporters get hides for suggesting that a given commenter is a shill. Apparently it's a big no-no to bring it up.

Equally bad for me is that quite a few can't be talked to or reasoned with; there's no sense of talking to fellow human beings. There's no consideration, they just blurt out their basic message in a mechanical way. The absolute wall of hostility in some -- not one opening for humanity -- it amazingly off-putting.

Someone upthread said it seemed like they were trying to create a "Dean scream" scenario to invalidate Bernie. I'm never in the "know" on anything so while reading this, I took the link to retrowire's hidden OP. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the OP except that it intelligently refutes a talking point & some of the comments were equally intelligent. WTF? That he is now "under review" makes me sick. And Demeter, too? What's going on? I just checked both of them, and retrowire is marked as "active," but is he unable to post? Plus, on that hidden thread the final post has a very ugly visual attack on Bernie:



The image location shows the URL of a blog called https://dangerwaffles.files.wordpress.com. It's a righwing hate site with many anti-Bernie and also anti-Obama messages. It's amazing that a DUer would use it. Also amazing that the commenter who uses it made a very anti-rightwing comment. WTF is that all about?

Another thing that troubles me is that some of the propaganda-style commenters occasionally make rightwing libertarian arguments about taxation and capitalism or else they'll use liberal social concerns in an extremely cynical, phony way, stating that Bernie is a misogynist or a racist. These absurd claims appear to be clumsy attempts to turn Democrats against him.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I could go on and on. It also creeps me out that they can read what we're saying and can discuss it at their little "secret" site.

I wish I knew what we can do to deal constructively with this. For me, the most important thing is to do all we can to help Bernie win the nomination. I guess the main usefulness (politically) of DU is to help get pro-Bernie messages on the Internet, since we don't have the media on our side.

Okay, I better end this and get to bed. I fell asleep at a normal hour and woke up with the computer still on and started reading the Bernie group, and one thing followed on another and now it's ridiculously late.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
60. I should have included a link to the thread I was referring to
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

Here it is: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251887046

And the weird intensely anti-rightwing comment with the hideously anti-Bernie image from the intensely anti-Democratic blog is the last comment in the thread.

This helps verify my sense that there are some Republican posters here.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
64. Just read Retrowire's post. There is absolutely nothing controversial about it.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 07:10 PM
Dec 2015

The admins need to step in, take responsibility and stop allowing juries to remove posts like Retrowire's that present cogent arguments in a civil style.

What is wrong with the admins?

They should put that excellent post back on DU.

The jury system if not working.

I do not vote to remove posts based on the political viewpoint of the author. I only remove posts that are truly degrading to DU.

The admins need to take action on the abuse of the jury system. That goes for people on both sides of the primary dispute.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
63. I have a huge ignore list because the ignored follow certain patterns
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:43 PM
Dec 2015

Are these patterns intentional or are some people here to play a computer game ?

I have no clue but I miss alot of people that get banned because they are critical thinkers .

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
66. It doesn't matter if you ignore them, they can still alert on your posts.
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 06:11 AM
Dec 2015

For saying anything, for some of the oddest reasons I have ever seen in my life!!
It makes no sense whatsoever.




Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Bernie Sanders»Certain DU Hillary suppor...