Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumIs this an attempt to discredit Bernie's move to compare his brand of socialism to FDR?
I heard this Saturday morning on MSNBC. Although I tuned into Melissa Harris Perry, I got Harry Smith instead. I'm sorry I have to link to Breitbart, but it's the only video I could find as MSNBC doesn't seem to have one posted that I could find.
What Harry Smith said was this:
The video is at this link:http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/21/msnbcs-harry-smith-compares-the-refugee-pause-to-japanese-internment-refusing-jews-during-the-holocaust/
Maybe I'm making some adoo about nothing, but it seems odd to me that this is the first time any news bobble head has made a point of saying FDR signed the orders, and it's all his fault, especially since Bernie is trying to get people to look at the good things FDR did and is making it as a comparison as to how his Presidency will evolve.
To give this some perspective, great movements in history have been flawed. The Athenian Greeks invented democracy as we know it but it was a democracy for only free men of a certain tribe. No one else was included including women, but the idea transcended that and that was the great thing about it. Our American Constitution which brought monarchy free democracy and thinking, was crafted by slave owners. That doesn't detract from how remarkable it is. Now FDR did some uncool actions, but we can't ignore how powerful his social programs and plans to pull us out of the Great Depression are.
We need to be on full alert about these tactics that the media are going to throw at the populace to derail the Berniementum movement.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I get that "interned the Japanese" a lot on Twitter.
It's stupid and doesn't take into consideration that Bernie isn't a bit racist and that we live in a different (thankfully as it relates to race, gender and sexuality) era.
senz
(11,945 posts)MSNBC is owned by Comcast and GE. Hosts know what they can and cannot say. No way those two corporate giants would ever allow Bernie to make it to the White House. Hillary? No problem, she can be bought.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)And as to the internment - the Rs are screaming for it now for anyone from the ME. And you do not hear Bernie following their lead.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)The internments have been mentioned before without the direct reference to FDR, but in the same paragraph he also brings up the shipload of Jewish people escaping the holocaust with FDR as directly responsible for turning them back. Now for those uninformed people who were recently told, we aren't Denmark, when Bernie was trying to connect the same economic ideas to Danish socialism, then told well he's really trying to bring back FDRs brand of socialism, how does this look to them? I think it's calculated to look bad because it came from FDR the same guy who interned Japanese Americans and turned back a ship with refugees escaping the holocaust. Socialism baaad, no matter where it is.