Programmer under oath admits computers rig elections

[leftcoastmountains]

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Published on Apr 18, 2011

Software programmer says US elections are rigged and that US Representatives tried to pay him to rig their election vote counts.

[AuntPatsy]

1. Now what

[patsimp]

2. should be front page news everywhere

[Capt.Rocky300]

3. Why hasn't the liberal media spread this.......

to the people?

[TheFarS1de]

5. They won't ...

They will bury this next to Hoffa .

[Enthusiast]

20. I watched that way back when. I thought, "The liberals in congress will be all over this."

I was shocked when the election fraud was not addressed when the Democrats were in the majority. Additionally the media never made a peep. That is some liberal media.

[Scuba]

23. 2009 convinced me that most D's in Congress are really R's.

[Enthusiast]

25. That's why approval of congress is so low.

And that is why voter turnout is so low.

[Scuba]

26. Gee, ya think?

[Mnemosyne]

36. Yep, and partly from cross-filing, deliberate infiltration, imo. nt

[LiberalArkie]

4. The way our machines are done it is always possible. Other countries do it different.

The universities write some code for the operating system of the voting machines and it is verified and hard coded into the machines and can not be changed. The ballot software for the names and other info for the election is a simple text file like

A1,Barack Obama,President,Democratic Party
A2,George Orwell,President,Republican Party

etc

When it is told to total it just spits out
A1,1281831
A2,913111
B1,98082048
B2,092408
B3,99018309

Pretty simple. The math has been verified and triple verified years before. What is programed into the machine for every election can not change any of the program.

However on our machines, we send them out to be programed by someone selected by the county (or state) and they change all the software in every machine. Not very secure at all. Our system was never designed to be secure or valid. And paper ballots do not solve anything. They used to change the ballots out in south Arkansas before they got to the courthouse to be counted.

[SusanCalvin]

28. And they claim, or at least imply that it's terribly, terribly complicated.

A first-year computer science student could write it, and a good one could make it secure.

Not that I want that. I want paper ballots, hand counted at the precinct level, results posted on the door before the ballot box leaves. With a webcam watching everything.

[phantom power]

29. +1e6. This is basic, basic stuff. Counting a bunch of inputs by category.

Anybody claiming this would be hard to get correct is trying to blowing smoke up our ass, and probably complicit.

[Jarqui]

6. The Clint Curtis / Tom Feeney Vote-Rigging Scandal, 10 Years Later

http://bradblog.com/?p=10980

[billhicks76]

7. Duh...Clinton and Bush Always Knew

Many in the establishment do like Kerry but are somehow silent about it like lots of other crimes. They all have dirt on themselves probably.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. and Hillary speaks about it!!!

[billhicks76]

18. Uh...That Is Complete Horse Pucky

Having electronic voting machines change votes and electronic tabulators flip totals is a million times worse than voter suppression which I assume you are talking about. Read the article. No one in power will talk about it. Why? My money is on that agreements were made and not appearing crazy.

[jhart3333]

8. Thank you for this. Great reminder that our elections are at risk.

[zeemike]

9. Many have known it for a decade now.

But liberal or Conservative, none of our party leaders will even talk about it...and that is telling.
It says to me the fix is in, and the in people are in on the fix.

[ejbr]

10. +1 n/t

[reformist2]

11. I'm telling ya, we gotta back to paper ballots.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. They work very well. Dismiss the tyranny of needing instant counts. Patience. Enough already. nt

[elehhhhna]

22. No precinct has more than 2500 voters. The instant count meme is baloney.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. Exactly. It doesn't take long for a half dozen counters to count 2500 votes.

With 5 counters at 10 counts per minute (6 seconds per vote), that is 50 per minute for a total of less than an hour to count a precinct.

Six seconds is plenty of time to unwrap a paper ballot and tally ten offices / propositions.

If there are more offices / propositions, then use more counters or more time.

So what if it takes two hours or four hours. Close the polls at 8 pm, entertain yourself until the 11 o'clock news and go to sleep for any other issues that took overnight to count.

Instant does not often mean better.

Fewer people drink instant coffee these days.

[SusanCalvin]

31. This. nt

[bbgrunt]

13. Can you believe that this is ignored by the media while they

are all over stories about "voter fraud". It really shows the state of our media/democracy.

[uhnope]

14. While I support paper ballots, the man in this video, Clint Curtis, is a crank

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis#Wired_News

[gregcrawford]

15. Confirming what everyone already knew...

... and FUCK every Republican that Satan ever defecated.

[certainot]

17. it's like suggesting anti-reagan samantha smith and rebel sen paul wellstone

didn't die in accidental plane crashes. along with the paid trolls, liberals just deny someone could do that.

[senz]

21. Ever heard of Bev Harris?

In 2003 she learned how easy it is to modify code on Diebold voting machines to change the counts. She wrote articles, made a video showing how it's done, wrote a book about it.

Twelve years later and I can't believe we still use voting machines; they are easily hacked. They cannot be trusted. Voting is crucially important to this country at every level of government. Canada got rid of electronic voting for their federal elections. They use paper ballots. You can't flip paper ballots, you can't change the results, and they can be stored for trustworthy recounts (providing no one steals or destroys them.)

If we care about the democratic process, we should be using paper ballots with procedures to ensure that they are properly collected, counted, and saved in a secure location.

We can do that.

[SusanCalvin]

32. Don't forget Andy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2314423

[senz]

38. Ah, I vaguely remember the uproar about Bev

from another, much smaller, lefty (and unpolarized) site that no longer exists. I knew that people were mad at her for various reasons but was more interested in the problem than the personalities.

Yes, there are several early heroes in the voting machine story, but her name managed to stick with me.

[eShirl]

37. Yes, DU has certainly heard of Bev Harris. n/t

[Scuba]

24. Paper ballots, hand counted, in public, cameras rolling, nothing less.

That Democrats didn't address election fraud in 2009 told me all I needed to know about the "leaders" of the Democratic Party.

[SusanCalvin]

33. At the precinct level.

Results posted on the door before the ballot box leaves.

[rhett o rick]

35. The 2000 presidential vote should have been the warning. And the Democratic Party Elites

didn't give it a second thought. It was like they lost a tennis match. "Good game ole chap, what, what".

[Melurkyoulongtime]

30. Until we get paper ballots back

(if we ever do) please consider capturing a pic of your summary voting screen showing who you voted for with your cellphone. Let's use technology against them since they're already using it against us. FYI: in some states this is considered a crime (a misdemeanor in my state of Texas) however, I did this in 2012 and no one even batted an eyelash. I'm also willing to go to jail for it as a matter of civil disobedience if necessary. Maybe if enough of us do this we can end this crap; it's worth a shot!

[SusanCalvin]

34. Sadly, it's not going to work unless every single person does it,

Since there's no way to tie that photo back to what gets tallied.

[Melurkyoulongtime]

39. No, but if

enough of us do it and protest the "results" of an iffy election we might just make enough of a stink to actually make a difference. Just a thought...

[SusanCalvin]

40. I agree that there is not nearly enough protesting of iffy elections going on.

And what there is doesn't get covered.

[leftcoastmountains]

41. I take it you can't vote absentee in Texas?

It is so much easier to receive the ballot in the mail
a week or two before the election vote at my leisure and either
take it to the Voters Registrar's Office or mail it in.

[Melurkyoulongtime]

42. I don't qualify for absentee voting anymore

under Texas' rules. I'd have to be away from my county on election day AND during early voting AND have the ballot mailed to an address outside my county if I'm reading the rules correctly. I don't yet fit any of the other criteria per here: http://www.votetexas.gov/voting/when/. Does anyone know if the absentee voting process had changed in TX since 2012? I seem to remember it used to be easier but can't find anything searching the internet and I've moved around a lot since then including coming back from out of state. Did I miss something about this while I was gone? Did the asshats here make it even harder for people to vote or am I misremembering?

[leftcoastmountains]

43. Wow sounds complicated.