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Worth a read (Original Post) Rebkeh Nov 2015 OP
Very good, albeit sad, read. Bookmarked to read more later. Stardust Nov 2015 #1
Yes! Melurkyoulongtime Nov 2015 #2
Fantastic - very in-depth tecelote Nov 2015 #3
Those were many more than two reasons! merrily Nov 2015 #4
Wow! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #5

Melurkyoulongtime

(136 posts)
2. Yes!
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 02:53 AM
Nov 2015

Well written and worth the read. The OP knows poverty, too well, maybe, and says so more eloquently than I ever could. Their other points are dead on too. I'll vote for Hillary (please, god no) if she wins the primary, but we really need Bernie to win for the sake of what's left of our country.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
3. Fantastic - very in-depth
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 05:16 AM
Nov 2015

"Time and time again Hillary has trailed behind popular opinion, often not only trailing but actually advocating for the opposite of what Democrats/the public now agree to be right: on criminal justice reform/mass incarceration, welfare, immigration, the Iraq War, the Patriot Act, gay marriage, the TPP, the Keystone pipeline, etc. etc."

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I have been arguing with a few people about prisons. They seem to think Hillary has a plan and Bernie does not. So, I'm sending this clip and thought I'd post it here so people can see how well this person laid it out. These are just a couple clips, there's a lot more.

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Now, suddenly and with strong rhetoric, Hillary's calling for an end to it all. Suddenly she realizes that, "families could be and were torn apart by excessive incarceration."

Why didn't you know that in 1994? Why do you often fail to mention that you were one of the huge proponents of this family-tearing machine? And instead of taking responsibility, Hillary says the reason behind this crisis is,

"...because we have allowed our criminal justice system to get out of balance.

I cannot believe she has the audacity to blame others for the reality of prison in America, when she and her husband fought for the legislation that did so much to throw people behind bars, championing a bill that actually incentivized states to convict more of our citizens.

But Bernie Sanders?

In 1991, Bernie Sanders was up in front of Congress, railing with passion against the ideology behind the '94 bill --

“My friends, we have the highest percentage of people in jail per capita of any nation on earth....What do we have to do, put half the country behind bars?"
I highly recommend you watch the full (short) video. And in 1994, he was up there again, speaking against the very bill Hillary advocated for--

"Mr. Speaker, how do we talk about the very serious crime problem in America without mentioning that we have the highest rate of childhood poverty in the industrialized world, by far, with 22 percent of our children in poverty and 5 million who are hungry today? Do the Members think maybe that might have some relationship to crime? How do we talk about crime when this Congress is prepared, this year, to spend 11 times more for the military than for education; when 21 percent of our kids drop out of high school; when a recent study told us that twice as many young workers now earn poverty wages as 10 years ago; when the gap between the rich and the poor is wider and when the rate of poverty continues to grow? Do the members think that might have some relationship to crime?"

Bernie Sanders gets it. He gets that people commit crime because of poverty and the lie of equality in this nation.

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