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marym625

(17,997 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 07:56 AM May 2015

Lawrence O'Donnell ignored Bernie's candidacy - Bernie Group

Last edited Tue May 19, 2015, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Last night on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, Mr. O'Donnell did a great story on Elizabeth Warren. The huge problem with the story is he completely ignored Bernie's declared candidacy.

He stated, when talking about Warren's speech yesterday in California, that she didn't mention, "the only declared candidate in the Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton."

It's bad enough that MSNBC is not giving anywhere near the same coverage to Senator Sanders as they do to Clinton, but to completely ignore that he is a declared candidate is too much.

I have been tweeting and writing Chris Hayes, asking why he hasn't done a "Sanders for millennials" like he did for Clinton. Now I will be contacting Lawrence O'Donnell asking that he correct this glaring mistake.

I am really disappointed. I have much respect for Lawrence O'Donnell and am shocked by this. Absolutely no way he doesn't know Senator Sanders is running as a Democrat in the primary


You can leave a comment about the segment here http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/after-fiery-speech--is-sen.-warren-running--447417411531

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/thelastword

Twitter https://www.twitter.com/lawrence

Fuck that noise.

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Lawrence O'Donnell ignored Bernie's candidacy - Bernie Group (Original Post) marym625 May 2015 OP
I'm with you on that, but safeinOhio May 2015 #1
I agree marym625 May 2015 #4
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #40
The Bernie Sanders group is a safe haven marym625 May 2015 #44
Interesting Dem2 May 2015 #56
I always check the group a post is in marym625 May 2015 #59
oops Dem2 May 2015 #64
Other groups long ago advised their members to do the same. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #76
Oh, good to know. /nt Dem2 May 2015 #114
Never thought this would have as many recs marym625 May 2015 #126
No worries marym625 May 2015 #83
smh yuiyoshida May 2015 #47
This poster is suspect to me marym625 May 2015 #54
Probably so... yuiyoshida May 2015 #61
The letters F, U, and D come to mind n/t arcane1 May 2015 #105
But the point is that she is not the nominee yet and by ignoring one and covering the other the jwirr May 2015 #53
Not "yet" - never will be :) marym625 May 2015 #55
Oh, I am with you on that but the other poster was making a basic mistake regarding what a jwirr May 2015 #58
I know marym625 May 2015 #60
Yes, it is BS until Gary 50 May 2015 #62
No one "needs" to support Hillary Clinton raindaddy May 2015 #66
$$$ from Monsanto? Gamecock Lefty May 2015 #104
Mosatano is killing people, killing plants, killing animals, killing all forms of life. eloydude May 2015 #107
OFFS! L0oniX May 2015 #117
what is wrong with monsanto? thanks for the best laugh I have had tonight. niyad May 2015 #119
Ask why BEES are disappearing? Rockyj May 2015 #121
I heard the same about Obama in 2008. I heard of similar musings with Truman in 1948. Gore1FL May 2015 #73
Hillary may or may not make it to the 2016 November elections. JDPriestly May 2015 #77
She won't make it past the DNC convention.... eloydude May 2015 #108
Sorry, but she IS a Republican Lite eloydude May 2015 #106
I was shocked by Dean's performance supporting Hillary too. hedda_foil May 2015 #111
Could be marym625 May 2015 #113
I like Elizabeth but just in terms of dynamics it is smarter TBF May 2015 #68
What the hell?! TM99 May 2015 #2
I am surprised marym625 May 2015 #5
Not surprising that O'Donnell would ignore Sanders swilton May 2015 #81
Well said. Thank you. n/t marym625 May 2015 #86
Larry O'Donnell's punishment: Devote the entire show to Bernie for a week. eloydude May 2015 #109
Would be nice :) marym625 May 2015 #127
I quit watching Lawrence a long time ago. newfie11 May 2015 #3
I only started watching again because I want to watch for stuff like this marym625 May 2015 #6
Obama's Nobel Peace Prize Defense swilton May 2015 #143
That is fine but in this join us and email him that he is wrong. He is playing MSM politics. jwirr May 2015 #57
I did email him this morning newfie11 May 2015 #94
Thank you. jwirr May 2015 #99
Hartman, Steph Miller and Free Speech tv - they are the best rurallib May 2015 #70
You bet!!!! newfie11 May 2015 #95
absolutely marym625 May 2015 #98
If asked, he would probably say it's because Bernie hasn't declared himself to be a Democrat BeyondGeography May 2015 #7
except that is not what he said. marym625 May 2015 #9
And the party establishment has already accepted him as a candidate in the Democratic Party. Why jwirr May 2015 #63
Ask O'Donnell BeyondGeography May 2015 #82
He is a self declared "democratic socialist" marym625 May 2015 #128
Well he should look at the Front Page of Democrats.org, official website of the Democratic Party Bluenorthwest May 2015 #69
Thank you! marym625 May 2015 #129
And to me, O'Donnell is a neoliberal eloydude May 2015 #110
I like it! marym625 May 2015 #130
Thanks for the heads up, I tweeted him peacebird May 2015 #8
Awesome! Thank you! marym625 May 2015 #10
The corprats have given their talking heads marching orders. Triana May 2015 #11
We're not going to take it! marym625 May 2015 #12
I think you are right. Comcast is probably scared shitless rurallib May 2015 #71
I've noticed that most of the media isn't mentioning Bernie much if at all. Hotler May 2015 #13
Sorry, I don't know what that means. marym625 May 2015 #14
Typo. That should read "Five Bucks" Hotler May 2015 #15
Oh good marym625 May 2015 #16
And they are suing the one (Ed Schultz) who would have Bernie on as much as he could. NBC and jwirr May 2015 #67
Who is suing? marym625 May 2015 #132
Some NBC official. The court case just ended. He says Ed did not pay for his work. Ed said that jwirr May 2015 #138
Thank you! marym625 May 2015 #140
I'm not defending O'Donnell deutsey May 2015 #17
He has declared marym625 May 2015 #22
Yeah, I know, but that's the inside-the-beltway world for you. deutsey May 2015 #27
I am sure you are correct marym625 May 2015 #29
Absolutely! MelungeonWoman May 2015 #116
I disagree. I think many who would agree with Sanders watch O'Donnell. marym625 May 2015 #123
You're probably right about this, elleng May 2015 #84
All Bernie has to do is say something racist or homophobic and he will make bonniebgood May 2015 #18
and we know Sanders will never do that marym625 May 2015 #23
It is up to us to build up name recognition. I tell people about Bernie everyday. Dustlawyer May 2015 #19
I do too marym625 May 2015 #24
We should not forget the newspapers. They get to peole who do not have facebook etc. jwirr May 2015 #72
speaking of newspapers marym625 May 2015 #133
You are way ahead of me. Thanks. jwirr May 2015 #139
No, thank you! marym625 May 2015 #141
Maybe D'Donnell dislikes Sanders. A couple of his retweets. Triana May 2015 #20
Well that's interesting marym625 May 2015 #25
No matter how often O'Donnell criticizes DC Dems it pays to remember DJ13 May 2015 #131
Posted to the MSNBC site and tweeted him. NorthCarolina May 2015 #21
Same here marym625 May 2015 #26
"Fair and balanced reporting"? fredamae May 2015 #28
I completely agree when it comes to content marym625 May 2015 #31
You are stronger than I am :) n/t fredamae May 2015 #33
I highly doubt that marym625 May 2015 #34
In a really good way...tho :) n/t fredamae May 2015 #36
Thanks marym625 May 2015 #38
Unfortunately, "fair and balanced reporting" in America NorthCarolina May 2015 #65
I noticed. Duppers May 2015 #30
I kept watching in the hopes he would correct it marym625 May 2015 #32
Lawrence is a know it all tomsaiditagain May 2015 #35
except his choir consists of socialists marym625 May 2015 #39
They're all in the tank for their corporate overlords and Hillary. NYC_SKP May 2015 #37
I used to take Warren at her word, that she won't run marym625 May 2015 #41
My guess is that the policies pages are being built now, will launch with his launch. NYC_SKP May 2015 #42
Probably marym625 May 2015 #45
BOYCOTT MSNBC ellennelle May 2015 #43
Good idea! marym625 May 2015 #46
Matthews had him on and did an excellent interview. hedda_foil May 2015 #112
He was on Hayes and Maddow marym625 May 2015 #122
Bernie was on "The Ed Show" kracer20 May 2015 #48
You must not have been watching Ed Schultz. He has Bernie on as a guest all the time. But now jwirr May 2015 #78
Another shill for the status quo play acting as a well reasoned commentator. GoneFishin May 2015 #49
+1 marym625 May 2015 #51
Bummed myself gilligan May 2015 #50
I really expected better from him marym625 May 2015 #52
I noticed this a couple of weeks ago NikolaC May 2015 #74
seems to be the way they're going marym625 May 2015 #87
He's not wasting his time on fringe candidates. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #75
huh? marym625 May 2015 #88
I counted on my sig line to represent my stance. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #92
Sorry, I can't see sig lines on mobile version marym625 May 2015 #93
If only I could get that attitude spread around a little further…(nt) Jackpine Radical May 2015 #102
I will see what I can do :) nt marym625 May 2015 #103
Ditto MoJo, although that's no real surprise. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #79
seriously disgusting marym625 May 2015 #89
Sanders was not selected to run. JEB May 2015 #80
ain't that the truth! marym625 May 2015 #90
I'm a Hillary supporter gwheezie May 2015 #134
Thanks for this marym625 May 2015 #137
Maher ignores Bernie, too. nt valerief May 2015 #85
Well that sucks marym625 May 2015 #91
Maher needs to be told what Bernie's stance on pot is. L0oniX May 2015 #118
I always saw him as a centrist so this doesn't surprise me at all. Autumn May 2015 #96
and she has sold out too marym625 May 2015 #97
I rarely watch her anymore unless someone I know posts that she has a must see, Autumn May 2015 #100
I am watching more often lately marym625 May 2015 #101
MSNBC sucks in general. Of course they don't want to talk about Bernie. Enthusiast May 2015 #115
+100 marym625 May 2015 #124
I dont understand why anyone is surprised?? darkangel218 May 2015 #120
I am surprised marym625 May 2015 #125
I stopped watching them a long time ago. darkangel218 May 2015 #135
Me too marym625 May 2015 #136
O'Donnell has repeatedly claimed to be a socialist. Not even a Democratic Socialist, but a merrily May 2015 #142
I'm not really that surprised that ODonnell ignored Bernie. He's very 'status quo' when it comes sabrina 1 May 2015 #144
Thanks Sabrina marym625 Jun 2015 #145
Have you seen the attack on Bernie by the DNC member yet? If an apology for that isn't sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #146
no. I haven't marym625 Jun 2015 #147

safeinOhio

(32,686 posts)
1. I'm with you on that, but
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:08 AM
May 2015

the time is coming that Bernie can't be ignored any longer. He does not have the charisma of Warren, however I find his ideas and record much better than hers.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. I agree
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:12 AM
May 2015

I was shocked at Dean's stance. He's changed and not in a good way.

Sanders is definitely better on record and stance. Warren is a much better orator. But I know that they can both beat Clinton

Response to marym625 (Reply #4)

marym625

(17,997 posts)
44. The Bernie Sanders group is a safe haven
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:51 AM
May 2015

You violated SoP big time and are now banned from the group

marym625

(17,997 posts)
59. I always check the group a post is in
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:29 AM
May 2015

Especially now.

I will edit the title since the post has more recs than I expected

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
64. oops
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:39 AM
May 2015

I see the bright blue subject line and am lured in by those that interest me, but now I feel bad for making you feel like you needed to edit the thread subject.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
126. Never thought this would have as many recs
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:44 AM
May 2015

Or replies, or I would have put the disclaimer in the subject to start with

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
53. But the point is that she is not the nominee yet and by ignoring one and covering the other the
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:25 AM
May 2015

MSM is once again playing politics. And that is exactly what I wrote on facebook.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
58. Oh, I am with you on that but the other poster was making a basic mistake regarding what a
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:29 AM
May 2015

primary is all about.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
66. No one "needs" to support Hillary Clinton
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:42 AM
May 2015

But Hillary "needs" to support Wall Street, Monsanto and military contractors,etc.... because she's accepting lots of $$$ from them.

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
107. Mosatano is killing people, killing plants, killing animals, killing all forms of life.
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:10 PM
May 2015

Roundup contains toxic pesticides that should be banned.

Mosatano is also very fond of manipulating the genetics of plants... hence GMO.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
119. what is wrong with monsanto? thanks for the best laugh I have had tonight.
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:59 PM
May 2015

unless, of course, you forgot the sarcasm thingy.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
73. I heard the same about Obama in 2008. I heard of similar musings with Truman in 1948.
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:52 AM
May 2015

We have a process to select the nominee. There is no reason to short-circuit it, especially if one candidate has it in the bag in the opinion of some.

Should we have just roll over and not had an election when the conventional wisdom has decided?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
77. Hillary may or may not make it to the 2016 November elections.
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

You never know. I remember when Dick Gephardt was considered to be a really strong candidate at the outset of the 2008 campaign.

Hillary has not spoken to a member of the press for quite some time. She is not the quickest on her feet as we saw in 2008. Don't take things for granted.

Bernie is really quick on his feet. He knows what he wants to get across and he gets it out there in interview after interview. He is educating voters about our appalling economic inequality and our failing infrastructure as well as the folly of abandoning ourselves to the morbid twitches of our military/industrial complex every time they get the urge to kill, kill, kill.

To be quick on your feet you have to be not only smart but rested, in pretty good health, energetic and focused. I'm not sure that Hillary is. She is placing herself in well controlled situations. That is a problem to watch. She knows that the nomination is hers to lose, and she may lose it. She very well may.

Bernie may be our candidate. If he is, I hope you will support HIM.

Something odd about the fact that Hillary is not talking to the press. She was really, really unaware of what has been going on in the real America, and I think she is realizing it. You do not know whether she will make it through to the general election. Nobody does. Same for all the candidates.

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
108. She won't make it past the DNC convention....
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:13 PM
May 2015

because people will be abandoning her in swaths in favor for Bernie..

Certain DU'ers who are very, very rich fail to understand the income inequality issue. They are mostly "I've got mine, so FU" people that do not really belong to the Democratic Party and should be thrown out of here. That is the biggest key for most people.

People do vote with their wallets... if they are empty, and Bernie is honest about where the jobs are, and know how to get them back, then by all fucking means, Bernie should be getting the 99%'s undivided attention, and ignoring Clinton like a red-headed stepchild.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
111. I was shocked by Dean's performance supporting Hillary too.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:17 PM
May 2015

It didn't look like he even believed what he was saying. I guess he decided to come in from the cold and hope for (expect?) a plum appointment in the HRC administration.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
68. I like Elizabeth but just in terms of dynamics it is smarter
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:44 AM
May 2015

to run Bernie. The last thing we need is a Hillary vs. Elizabeth cat fight image out there - which is exactly what the republicans will turn it into. Elizabeth is way smarter than many (including Obama) realize. She is newer to Washington and she has power now in the Senate. There is no way she will enter the race unless Hillary withdraws. Bernie is already getting more attention than I thought he would by simply addressing the issues. Every day on social media his team puts up a new issue. They are focused on economics and the loss of jobs in this country over the past few decades that has caused a huge wealth gap and pretty much eradicated our middle class. Bernie's team is hammering that home & it is exactly the thing he needs to do. It is the thing everyone has been talking about individually in their living rooms but politicians never address because they are too busy kissing the asses of large corporations. Bernie's out there saying "we're getting fucked" and that is resonating with people because it's the truth.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
2. What the hell?!
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:10 AM
May 2015

The only declared Democratic Primary candidate is Hillary Clinton? Fuck O'Donnell.

I am emailing as well. This is ridiculous.

I am not surprised, but I am pissed.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
81. Not surprising that O'Donnell would ignore Sanders
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:08 AM
May 2015

I remember him from the McLaughlin Group although he represented the left - he was always a centrist - to the right of Morton Kondracke and Eleanor Clift.

His academic background as a Harvard trained economist and Staff Director (1993-95) for the Senate Finance Committee suggests to me that his political analysis is from a neo-liberalist lens....and why he would tend to dismiss Sanders....Supporting this theory is that in 1990, he worked as a key legislative aide (1989-95) for Senator Moynihan who, according to Wikepedia, took this controversial position regarding expansion of healthcare coverage for the poor.

"Moynihan broke with orthodox liberal positions of his party on numerous occasions. As chairman of the Senate Finance Committee in the 1990s, he strongly opposed President Bill Clinton's proposal to expand health care coverage to all Americans. Seeking to focus the debate over health insurance on the financing of health care, Moynihan garnered controversy by stating that "there is no health care crisis in this country."

But as a news station that 'should' value objectivity, the news should not be about O'Donnell's personal views...but this is why I value DU, Democracy Now, TRNN, RT, et. al.

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
109. Larry O'Donnell's punishment: Devote the entire show to Bernie for a week.
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:16 PM
May 2015

Then give very little air time to Hillary or the Republicans, from then on.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
3. I quit watching Lawrence a long time ago.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:12 AM
May 2015

I do still watch Rachel.
Thom Hartman and Free Speech TV is it or me.
The MSM sucks!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
6. I only started watching again because I want to watch for stuff like this
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:16 AM
May 2015

I have even less respect for Maddow after her coverage of Baltimore and Freddie Gray's murder. More the protests than the murder

I really did expect more than this from O'Donnell.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
143. Obama's Nobel Peace Prize Defense
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:45 AM
May 2015

by Maddow was what clued me about her...watch out for her. She has a PhD in philosophy from Oxford and she is smart enough to argue that rain falls up. But her message will always be tailor made to support the ruling elites.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
7. If asked, he would probably say it's because Bernie hasn't declared himself to be a Democrat
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:21 AM
May 2015

It's a technicality, because Sanders is a declared candidate for the Democratic nomination, but O'Donnell is part of the party establishment and probably sees the party affiliation question as an excuse to ignore Bernie.

The Party is a club and Bernie will face a lot of this type of resistance. I'm sure it's no news to him.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
9. except that is not what he said.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:40 AM
May 2015

So getting off on semantics won't work.

Lawrence O'Donnell has said he is a democratic socialist himself. So this is even more of a blow, IMHO.

You are obviously correct in his selling out. But I am not going to just ignore it.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
63. And the party establishment has already accepted him as a candidate in the Democratic Party. Why
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:36 AM
May 2015

are you so eager to label him as an outsider? You need to look into what a Democratic Socialist really is. It is a part of the Democratic party.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
82. Ask O'Donnell
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:08 AM
May 2015

I think he's a better Democrat than most, even if he calls himself an Independent. I'm not the one ignoring him.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
69. Well he should look at the Front Page of Democrats.org, official website of the Democratic Party
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:44 AM
May 2015

Here is what it says:
"Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are officially in the presidential race. If you’re in too, add your name to make sure we elect a Democrat in 2016."

Photo of Bernie, photo of Hillary. If Larry O'Donnell thinks quacks like himself own the Party he's in for a surprise.

http://www.democrats.org/

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
110. And to me, O'Donnell is a neoliberal
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:18 PM
May 2015

and should be drummed out of the Democratic Party and forced to create a Party called "Centrists - we're just a bunch of assholes who like money but hate Republican social issues"

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
11. The corprats have given their talking heads marching orders.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:43 AM
May 2015

"Do not mention Bernie Sanders - at least not as a serious contender"

The idea must be given that Sanders is a non-viable candidate.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
12. We're not going to take it!
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:45 AM
May 2015

Never did and never will.

And they're going along with it. Makes me ill. M$M SUCKS.

Hotler

(11,425 posts)
13. I've noticed that most of the media isn't mentioning Bernie much if at all.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:52 AM
May 2015

Five bucks says that the word has come down from the top at the shows and they are to ignore Bernie.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
14. Sorry, I don't know what that means.
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:55 AM
May 2015

"Fives"

But whatever it means, totally agree that M$M has been told to ignore him

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
67. And they are suing the one (Ed Schultz) who would have Bernie on as much as he could. NBC and
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:42 AM
May 2015

MSNBC are to blame for their own problems. Fence sitters.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
132. Who is suing?
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:59 AM
May 2015

I don't know anything about this. Can you link me to something about it?

Thank you

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
138. Some NBC official. The court case just ended. He says Ed did not pay for his work. Ed said that
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:38 PM
May 2015

he was a friend.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
17. I'm not defending O'Donnell
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:01 AM
May 2015

but could it be that Bernie hasn't "formally" declared his candidacy yet?

Isn't he going to do that on the 26th?

"Mr. Sanders plans to hold a formal campaign kickoff on May 26 in Burlington, Vt."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-for-president.html?_r=0

I know that's kind of splitting hairs, and I'm not defending O'Donnell or others who are ignoring Bernie, but perhaps people like them are waiting for that kickoff?

marym625

(17,997 posts)
22. He has declared
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:08 AM
May 2015

The kick off is for the campaign, not an announcement. So if that's an excuse any of them want to use, it's just bullshit.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
27. Yeah, I know, but that's the inside-the-beltway world for you.
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:16 AM
May 2015

Honestly, I think all corporate-owned media will ignore Bernie, no matter when he formally declares.

Or they'll marginalize him (and more importantly, his message).

marym625

(17,997 posts)
29. I am sure you are correct
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:20 AM
May 2015

That's where we come in. If we keep the message in social media, we can accomplish a great deal

MelungeonWoman

(502 posts)
116. Absolutely!
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:19 PM
May 2015

I'm not real worried about what the MSM has to say on the subject, I expect that people who connect with Bernie's message won't be O'Donnell watchers for the most part.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
123. I disagree. I think many who would agree with Sanders watch O'Donnell.
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:36 AM
May 2015

Last edited Wed May 20, 2015, 02:14 AM - Edit history (1)

But they are not well informed people. Thanks to M$NBC, they won't.

Unfortunately, too many people are too lazy to do any research. Exactly what MSM counts on.

But yeah, we know better. Wish we could let everyone know. Just have to do our best

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
18. All Bernie has to do is say something racist or homophobic and he will make
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:02 AM
May 2015

headlines on every show every hour. Yes the word has come down, not to mention Bernie unless
its controversial or a scandal. It made me sick to watch Howard Dean carry the water/pimp/pitch hit for Hillary last night, I guess he thinks he will get into Hillary's cabinet IF she's elected, since Obama ditched him.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
19. It is up to us to build up name recognition. I tell people about Bernie everyday.
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:04 AM
May 2015

I educate them on what a Democratic Socialist is so when they hear it later he won't seem like the bogeyman. This is what we all expected from corporate media who work to make sure that the only POTUS candidates are already owned by the Plutocrats.
By massing large numbers of volunteers we can get out the word. The PEOPLE have to speak, uh, I mean shout to be heard!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
24. I do too
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:13 AM
May 2015

I even turned a call into Verizon about my bill, into a Sanders commercial The guy was genuinely curious and asked some good questions. Said he was writing it down. Evidently was because he went to the website while we were talking and asked why he couldn't find anything but to contribute.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
20. Maybe D'Donnell dislikes Sanders. A couple of his retweets.
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:06 AM
May 2015


May mean something, maybe not. Why would he spread such articles unless he simply doesn't think Sanders can cut it? And maybe that's why he ignored his declared candidacy as a Democrat.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
131. No matter how often O'Donnell criticizes DC Dems it pays to remember
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:56 AM
May 2015

He has long been an insider in DC political circles.

They dont like Bernie.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
28. "Fair and balanced reporting"?
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:18 AM
May 2015

Unless you run Against the candidate I'm supporting...that is
I haven't really been watching any "news" programming for the past few week...I'll catch a clip of someone saying something sometimes....but last night I decided to see what they're talking abnout...Doom, Gloom, Fear and stuff...and I caught that too...then I switched channels. I'm kinda sick of it. Hayes show looks more like tabloid style "news" now....I recorded his show. It took me less than 6 mins to ff, review interesting (to me) content & delete.
Whats his name on one of the shows....Rich, I think it was....refused to even mention Bernies name when affirming for us all...It's GONNA Be HRC! Wasn't that nice of him?

I think it might work a little like this: MSM is exposing themselves just like the wall street wing...and I'm good with it. More people need to be aware.
Note how they Include ALL GOP hopefuls...and otherwise mention Only Clinton for the Dems. Lining up the field in our minds so we don't think outside the box...our comfort zones. to dare to consider Anything/Anyone else but Following Their Guide They've "scripted" on "our" behalf.
Isn't that nice of them to take All the work out of Thinking, for us?

Frankly I don't care what M$NBC or any of the rest of them do anymore. They're NOT talking about News. They're opining about current events with a bunch of celebrities......from politics, Hollywood, wall street, CEO's, Authors of "stuff" etc....

So, why waste the time, unless one is really interested In someone's opinion (corp views) because News used to Informative and served a purpose For the people...there is nothing to learn from the remnants of what News used to be.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
31. I completely agree when it comes to content
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:24 AM
May 2015

But many people do still believe they're getting "real news" from these shows. So I watch to try and keep them honest. At the very least, I will call them out on it.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
65. Unfortunately, "fair and balanced reporting" in America
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:40 AM
May 2015

always includes a corporate agenda tucked in underneath.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
37. They're all in the tank for their corporate overlords and Hillary.
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:34 AM
May 2015

It's safe for them to use Warren as a foil for chatter and drama because Warren isn't an eminent threat.

Were they to give Sanders airtime, it would be more of a problem.

Let's see what happens after Sanders' official announcement.

Thanks for the posts and for writing the letters!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
41. I used to take Warren at her word, that she won't run
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:45 AM
May 2015

After the last few days, I'm not so sure about that.

I think the one big mistake that Sanders has made is not having ANYTHING on his website but the ability to contribute or volunteer. He should, minimally, have a link to positions.

Thank you too!

ellennelle

(614 posts)
43. BOYCOTT MSNBC
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:50 AM
May 2015

and let each and every member - rachel, lawrence, ed, phil griffin - know it unequivocally.

the only member of that team who's interviewed bernie, as far as i know, is chris hayes.

so sad these folks have become such shills. and damn, i hate howard dean's getting in bed with the clinton's. so sad. and he's from VT too!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
46. Good idea!
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:55 AM
May 2015

Rachel Maddow did a 3 minute interview right after he declared. (I don't actually know how long the interview was - it was really short)

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
112. Matthews had him on and did an excellent interview.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:33 PM
May 2015

I believe he's done Chris Hayes show recently too.

kracer20

(199 posts)
48. Bernie was on "The Ed Show"
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:15 AM
May 2015

Pretty sure it was the day he announced. I haven't seen many episodes since, so can't say if Ed is still talking about him or not.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
78. You must not have been watching Ed Schultz. He has Bernie on as a guest all the time. But now
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:00 AM
May 2015

Ed is in trouble so I would not be the least bit surprised the he will go the way of KO.

gilligan

(194 posts)
50. Bummed myself
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:20 AM
May 2015

Yep. Saw the show myself and was very disappointed that Lawrence did not mention Bernie. To bad for America!

NikolaC

(1,276 posts)
74. I noticed this a couple of weeks ago
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:53 AM
May 2015

I watched M$NBC a couple of weeks ago and noticed that not one of the hosts mentioned Bernie at all when it came to talking about the candidates and their position on a particular issue at the time. They mentioned Hillary, Warren and DeBlasio's joint project and all of the Republican clown car candidates, but no Bernie, even though he had already declared his candidacy. One by one, each host that I used to admire and respect seemed to go out of their way not to mention Bernie at all.

Listening to SiriusXM Progress during the day, the only host that mentions him seriously is Thom Hartman, the others downplay Senator Sanders as someone who does not stand a chance, or they ignore him entirely. One host in particular got into it with a caller when they asked both the host and Markos why they weren't taking Bernie seriously. Forget the fact that Bernie stands for a lot of the issues that they themselves have advocated for in the past and quite vocally at that.

It's as though the media are doing to Bernie what they did to Kucinich, but even worse since it seems as though they are ignoring Senator Sanders completely. I guess that the plan is to act as though he is not in the race and, eventually, he and his followers will get discouraged, go away and drop out.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
87. seems to be the way they're going
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:24 AM
May 2015

So, we can't let them ignore him.

Actually, this tactic shows he has an excellent chance IMHO

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
79. Ditto MoJo, although that's no real surprise.
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:06 AM
May 2015

The whole discussion this morning comparing Jeb and Hillary kept talking about how Jeb has to campaign against dozens of Republican competitors, but Hillary has no incentive to talk to the media because she has 'no competition'.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
89. seriously disgusting
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:29 AM
May 2015

Not like Sanders has few supporters. They just want to keep him away because they know he's the better candidate

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
80. Sanders was not selected to run.
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:07 AM
May 2015

Media coverage is heavily tilted toward the oligarch's preselected candidates.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
134. I'm a Hillary supporter
Wed May 20, 2015, 02:51 AM
May 2015

I think its a huge mistake for the msm to already pick the dem nominee. Bernie is a legit candidate and should get coverage, he's got some great ideas that I think will attract voters. Anything could happen between now and the nomination. If Hillary runs a bad campaign or for what ever reason drops out, I want dems to have an alternative. While I prefer Hillary who knows Bernie could change my mind but he has to be given a fair shot.

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
96. I always saw him as a centrist so this doesn't surprise me at all.
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:54 AM
May 2015

He may have changed I don't know I don't watch any pundits shows unless it's Rachel.

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
100. I rarely watch her anymore unless someone I know posts that she has a must see,
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:07 PM
May 2015

and then I will wait and watch the video clip.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
101. I am watching more often lately
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

Just to keep tabs on what they say. Or more accurately, what they don't say

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
115. MSNBC sucks in general. Of course they don't want to talk about Bernie.
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:30 PM
May 2015

Corporations will mount an all out assault on Bernie if they feel threatened by the truth.

And they do feel threatened by the truth.

Corporate behavior has gotten so bad in recent years that we should fill the prisons with these assholes.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
120. I dont understand why anyone is surprised??
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:01 PM
May 2015

MSNBC are a corporation. Who do you think they will support??? Lol!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
125. I am surprised
Wed May 20, 2015, 01:42 AM
May 2015

I am not surprised they're not supporting him. I am not surprised they're pulling the corporate stand. I am surprised at the outright, blatant lie, "the ONLY declared candidate, Hillary Clinton" and the emphasis on "only" was his

merrily

(45,251 posts)
142. O'Donnell has repeatedly claimed to be a socialist. Not even a Democratic Socialist, but a
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:26 AM
May 2015

Socialist. So, barring hanky panky, one would assume that Mr. O'Donnell would find a Democratic Socialist to be the closest thing the Democratic Party is offering for President for 2016. No?

Then again, he produced the West Wing with DLCers DeeDee Myers and Gene Sperling as consultants.


Lately, I've noticed a lot of people whom I, simply a traditional Democrat, consider to be well to my right claiming to be either socialists or Democratic Socialists. If you believe them, it gets confusing.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
144. I'm not really that surprised that ODonnell ignored Bernie. He's very 'status quo' when it comes
Wed May 27, 2015, 11:40 AM
May 2015

politics.

I do agree that Bernie's supporters will have to keep an eye on the Corporate Media who are going to be pushing Corporate Candidates and trying to marginalize the people's choices as they have been doing since six Corporations bought our media after Clinton deregulated it.

Everyone should tweet this OP so it gets around the internet. Let them see how many supporters Bernie has and how that support is growing by the day.

Thanks for keeping tabs on the useless Media Mary.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
145. Thanks Sabrina
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jun 2015

Don't know how I missed this.

He has paid more attention since this post, but not enough with enough respect, IMHO.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
146. Have you seen the attack on Bernie by the DNC member yet? If an apology for that isn't
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:33 PM
Jun 2015

forthcoming, and if he is not removed from his position, it ill leave little doubt that liberals are not welcome in this party and make it all the more important to fight as hard as possible to get our party out of the hands of Corporatists.

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