Seems pretty legit to me. Help me vet it.

[Fawke Em]

&sns=tw

[Kip Humphrey]

1. my vetting...

1. The cutesy flip-flops gotta go. They are a dated republicon gimmick that distracts from the factual presentations.
2. Dates and names of commentators are frequently missing. Is that Dick Morris ? If not, that person needs to be identified because he sure looks and sounds like Dick Morris - and if it is, this piece deserves to be tombstoned as a republicon hit job.
3. Like the use of flip-flops, the last comment,"You Democrats" labels this as a repubilcon hit piece and consequently destroys any authenticity contained in the video.

Conclusion: While much of the content is clearly factual by Hillary's own words, this has all the appearances of being a republicon hit job, and as such does not belong on DU web pages and should not be in any way shape or form associated with Bernie Sanders or the DU Bernie Sanders forum. IMO, you should remove your OP immediately.

[Divernan]

6. If the content is factual, it's not a "hit job" & the source is immaterial.

According to your way of thinking, if any "republicon" has criticized HRC for any actions or in regard to any issues or policy positions, nobody on DU or supporting Bernie can call HRC to task for the same actions/issues/policy positions? The phrase, "cutting off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind.

A rose is a rose by any other name. And a flip-flopper (of whatever political persuasion) is still a flip-flopper no matter how hard they try to spin and style themselves as "evolving". You are incorrect that a charge of flip-flopping is a Republican gimmick. All politicians in any party have always been open to charges of flip-flopping, when they do a 180 degree change on issues.

Competent politicians can defend themselves by detailing how a change of circumstances motivated their changed views. But the truth of said change remains authentic, wherever it is stated.

Whatever the source of this OP link, it is a powerful indictment of HRC's inconsistency on critical issues. It influences the growing number of voters who view her as untrustworthy. It will remain out there throughout the primary, and should she win the primary, throughout the general election. I think it's important that we be aware of these very powerful criticisms of her.

If you believe that any particular segment was untrue (oh noes! was she photo-shopped? lip-synced), state your case.

[eridani]

9. Don't agree. You can always use the original source as a jumping off point to find--

--the same factual material from another source.

[Divernan]

11. In this case, multiple videos of HRC were assembled into one damning OP.

The source is HRC herself. There is no contradictory factual material. That's who she is, and it's recorded for posterity. And in this case, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Unless someone is desperate enough to claim any one or more of those video clips of HRC speaking were somehow doctored (photo shopped? lip-synced? Oh! Oh! Mr. Kotter! it was the evil Moriarty cleverly made up to impersonate her!), this particular link stands firmly on its own legs.

This assemblage of video clips of her over the past several years focuses attention on her substantive flip-flops. Her supporters don't like that focus.

[LiberalArkie]

13. Results A home run

On Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:19 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

If the content is factual, it's not a "hit job" & the source is immaterial.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=67348

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

We shouldn't be swiftboating Democrats on DU. This is the same tactic used by the GOP against Kerry (flip-flopper). Completely inappropriate.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:31 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While I somewhat agree with the alert, I'll vote to leave it since it's in the BS group. At this point, I don't expect any objectivity in the candidate groups.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This post is eloquent, thoughtful, authentic and most of all, reasonable! The Hillarians are revolting! And I do not find their "Alert War" amusing.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is one of the more thoughtful posts I've seen alerted on. Alerter, get some hobbies. Seriously.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Where's the problem? Flip-flipping is just what it is.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Cannot reply to automated messages

[Divernan]

15. Thanks to jurors, especially #s 5 & 6 for the votes & kind words

Golly gee, have I made the big time? On the alert list?
Pretty heady company for someone who hasn't even been banned from the HRC group!
Thanks, LiberalArkie, for the info.

[Live and Learn]

20. Over 13,000 posts and this is your first time? You haven't really been trying , have you?

Welcome to the crowd. Seems nobody is immune here even in supposedly safe groups.

[Divernan]

21. I've been alerted on - but never banned from a group.

Over the years I've had a handful of alerts - one or two where I pushed the edge of the envelope out of sheer frustration, one memorable one where I quoted a world-renowned philosopher & the alerter grossly misinterpreted it. But since I never post in the hyper- sensitive forums, I've never been banned.

The instant post on which I was alerted, I felt was perfectly acceptable in the Bernie Sanders Group. At the rate the level of national discourse within factions of the Democratic party, plus interested and motivated independents, is deteriorating, one wonders where it will be by the time of the Democratic convention.

[aspirant]

2. Flip-flopping

is exactly what Hills is doing.

Evolving, Flip-Flopping, Misspoke, Sleep Deprivation vs Flip-flopping, Sleep Deprivation, Misspoke, Evolving

I choose Flip-Flopping and something disgruntled Repubs quickly understand when they change to Bernie.

[senz]

3. Has its own pros and cons.

Even though one of the commenters does look like Dick Morris, I'm not sure this is a Republican video.

First, one of the segments describes Hillary as similar to a Republican.

Second, the majority of commenters are well-known progressives.

Third, much of the criticism is of her wealth and oligarchic connections. Republicans love that stuff (as do, apparently, conservadems.)

However, the fellow at the end who says, "Question for you Democrats: Do you really want a liar this brazen in the White House?" does indeed sound like a non-Democrat speaking. Could it be a Libertarian production? Or something else?

There is a lot of damning evidence against Hillary's character in the video, and since much of it is based on clips of Hillary herself, it can't be faked. But it does have a "hit piece" feel. If it's trying to appeal to Democrats, it could have been done better.

I doubt that this is in any way connected to Bernie's campaign. I could not imagine him approving it.

[silvershadow]

4. If you needed any more prove that her modus operandi is sticking the proverbial finger

to the wind to form her "views", look no further than how conveniently she found a home as a New York carpetbagger upon leaving the White House, her (and Bill's) reputation and chance of winning there in tatters. She (and they) and shrewd operators.

[yuiyoshida]

5. Ouch..

[LiberalArkie]

14. You have good people who get into politics because they want to help others

and you have people who get into politics because they want to serve themselves and to gain power and money.

[delrem]

7. It seems legit.

Most of it was taken up by video clips of Hillary Clinton, and it's hard to take issue with that.

A lot of people seem to like Hillary. Likewise a lot of people seem to like Donald.
I mean, "knowing all that".

Hell, I can imagine Donald and Sarah getting married in time for a joint inauguration, it's that kind of cloud cuckooland out there.

But if that's the way it is, and it seems like it is, then we're just going to have to deal with it.

[Scuba]

8. Yet people don't trust her. Weird, eh?

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

10. Now now, that's obvious misogyny.

Actual flip flop sandals with her name on them? You're literally standing on Hillary, trying to keep her down!

[Fawke Em]

12. For clarification: I didn't make this video, obviously...

I found it on Twitter under the #FeeltheBern hashtag.

Many of the things you see about HRC are from right-wing sources and include a bunch of bunk, which is why I asked for your help. This one seemed a bit different in that it took the time to research her saying one thing and then the other instead of just having rightwing nuts rant about her.

Perhaps it is best if you take pieces of it and research (it is rather long, anyway) to present.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. But for the fact Dick Morris is in the video, it's factual.

Since Dick Morris supports XL pipeline, I give his input some weight, but he's always hated the Clintons because they fired him for being caught with a prostitute sucking on his toes, while at the same time, Bill was having an affair with Gennifer Flowers. Though, what he says appears to be true and he has a lot of facts to back up what he says.

The video does an excellent job of showing, with Hillary's own words through video clips, all the lies she has told on numerous issues and her actual flip-flops which cannot be refuted.

I also completely agree with the Ring of Fire guy, Cousins(?) (never heard of him before though, so have no clue who he is) it's very, very difficult to believe Hillary is a Liberal. She's not even close to being a Progressive, she's definitely RIGHT OF CENTER, so I find it extremely difficult to say "Hillary" and "Liberal" in the same sentence.

Great video! I think the video maker needs to be vetted too. Who is he? He's a Bernie supporter, but I'd just like to dig a little on him. I'll try to do that soon.

Bookmarked and Kickin'!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. James Roguski, the guy that made this video, hosts two Bernie web sites.

http://www.jamesroguski.com/

Both sites look great. Following his many links takes you doe a rabbit hole. He seems to be am okay guy. He actually gives you his PHONE NUMBER so you can call him (trusting soul ) and has views I agree with on some issues, but seems a tad bit 'out there' for my tastes.

He has many, many, many web sites. Has written some books - one on 911, which I didn't bother checking into, so I'll judge him on his web sites and Bernie videos, of which there are MANY, at his Bernie video site.

He doesn't seem to be a right winger, which was my main concern. Though I really didn't keep digging at his site because that could take weeks. I'm serious.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[SoapBox]

18. Wow...

I've done some emails with James...mostly about the BernieSandersVideo.com site.

Whoa...and all the other sites...I'll have to take a look at those...he does have some good flyers/brochures posted, with lots of warnings about making sure that any materials you use or create are done so to keep them legal with the FEC.

[SoapBox]

19. Oh snap!

It's all her words, spit out by her...how can anyone even argue with her own statements.

Flipity-Flopity!

And I love the Flip Flops.

[senz]

22. Since viewing the video

one scene in particular has gone through my mind: the several Clinton mansions. Five of them? Each one is so out-sized, so ostentatious and over the top, that the sheer, selfish, greed is mind-boggling.

I can't understand what is wrong with those people. It's like they sold their souls.