Yes, Polling Trajectory Shows Bernie Sanders Defeating Hillary Clinton and Winning the Dem Nominatio

[Omaha Steve]

Posted in the Bernie Group.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/polling-trajectory-shows-bernie-sanders-defeating-hillary-clinton_b_8406282.html


H. A. Goodman Posted: 10/28/2015 11:18 am EDT

Hillary Clinton finished 3rd in the 2008 Iowa Caucus, even though an October 6, 2007 article in CNN stated the New York Senator had a commanding lead over her competition. Titled Giuliani and Clinton lead latest poll, Hillary Clinton's lead in the polls over Barack Obama seemed insurmountable:

On the Democratic side, Clinton pulled away from her closest rival for the nomination, Senator Barack Obama, D-Illinois, by more than 20 points. The poll showed her with 46 percent support, compared to Obama's 25 percent.

The remainder of the Democratic field was in single digits.

Sound familiar? History will repeat itself in 2016 because Democrats in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and every other state have more in common with my recent YouTube segment than a static poll number. I explain why I'm only voting for Bernie Sanders in this segment, and why Sanders is more honest than Clinton in another YouTube segment. Also, the polling trajectory that I highlighted in an earlier piece is tied to why Hillary Clinton is unelectable (I explain here) due to negative favorability ratings, in addition to why swing states find Clinton "not honest and trustworthy."

FULL story at link.

[peacebird]

1. That's pretty much how I see it too!

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. I had to check the date on this.

The polling of late has been a lot more bouncy, not the simple and straightforward climb Sanders had up until a week or so before the debate. I hope she's right, but it doesn't look a slam dunk just yet.

[Cassiopeia]

8. The day we ever think it's a slam dunk

is the day we lose.

Cantor was a slam dunk 72% to 18% (or so) the day before he lost.

GOTV.

[JDPriestly]

10. Polls are not all the same.

What is at issue are Hillary's numbers on trust and favorability.

She goes up and down a bit on them, but the price she pays for repeatedly having to admit that she has "evolved" and that she was wrong is that people don't trust her.

It's one thing to have been wrong about LGBT marriage. It's quite another to have been wrong about the Iraq War.

Now if Hillary were running against someone who had also been wrong about LGBT marriage and the Iraq War and other issues, it might not be such a problem for Hillary.

But Bernie was right on these issues.

And while the e-mail scandal has blown away for the moment as has the whole Benghazi nonsense, the idea the Hillary makes mistakes or is worse, probably dishonest, is bound to be an issue that the Republicans will cleverly throw at her should she get the nomination.

And Hillary's personality does not make it easy for her to graciously accept the unfairness that she has to accept. And she is even more sensitive and shows it even more when she knows that the criticism of her is justified.

She will have a really tough time overcoming her poll numbers on trust. For the moment she is doing better, but there will be some setback that may even push her out of the race entirely.

She has too many neo-con friends on whose loyalty and support she cannot rely. And she has a money problem -- money from some of the wrong people.

Bernie has returned money that people tried to give him because Bernie did not approve of the people -- but Hillary in her coffers has so much banking money, so much lobbyist money, it's bound to become an issue.

I have been saying that Hillary is unelectable all along. She is.

[Demeter]

3. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!

[AzDar]

4. Bernie!!

[Babel_17]

5. Democratic primary voters will be exposed to lots of polling numbers

Democratic primary voters will be exposed to lots of polling numbers regarding our candidates for the Democratic party nomination. How our people fare with those on the fence in swing states is going to become a well known topic. Can any of our people steal some voters in the swing states who vote R but no longer trust them? Who can best GOTV of currently unregistered Democratic leaning voters? Who can get the apathetic registered voters to suddenly commit to showing up? Who can recapture the Obama mojo on college campuses?

There are many more questions in this vein for Democratic party voters to think about before they vote in any of the primaries. Senator Sanders has his foot in the door. He's now competing for the person behind the door's business, and they're very interested that they now they have a choice. Turns out that they aren't obligated to sign with anyone until they hear what's being offered.

[roguevalley]

6. I love you guys for your work here. a hard week

For me. Thank you. Know you are loved.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

7. Steve, you provide us such a great service - thank you!

[WillyT]

9. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You For Posting !!!

[C Moon]

11. Bernie made a big impact out here in California.

[Victor_c3]

12. I have to be honest and say that I have been feeling down as of late for Bernie Sanders

but I haven't given up hope. Like when looking at stocks and investing, nothing has fundamentally changed with either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is still the standard bearer when it comes to progressive ideals and Hillary is still the same slimy politician who'll say whatever it takes to get elected.

I never ever donate money to politics. In 2008 and I donated nothing and again in 2012 I donated nothing. In 2014 I gave $25 to my favorite group votevets.org. Just an hour or two ago I donated $100 to Bernie Sanders. To me, its a lot of money but he is someone I believe tremendously in.

[Hiraeth]

13. hang in there. it is going to be a long season. a horse race to the line.

good on you for donating.

[Beartracks]

14. My fear: Hillary would mobilize massive Repub votes against her...

... since NO Republican will EVER vote for her -- and they will be very motivated to make her lose.

Whereas: I feel Bernie has demonstrated an appeal even to Republicans, and he could actually steal votes from the GOP candidate!


Just thinking out loud.

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[restorefreedom]

20. that's exactly why she could never ever win the general election.

but as usual, the Clintons only think about one thing: the Clintons. If they really study the issue, they can see that she has no way to win the general election. But they don't care. the establishment would rather lose to a Republican with a hrc nominee then have a Sanders presidency, because he will really upset the corporate apple cart and Republican would not. I posted an op about this a while back. saying that Debbie Wasserman Scholz and the Dems actually wanted to lose this election rather than see it go to Bernie. I get a lot of support from Bernie people but boy did I get a rash of shit from all the Hillary people. They don't understand that this isn't a democratic versus Republican election, it's an election between the power structure and the people. until they understand that, they're going to see everything as an attack on Hillary because she represents that very power structure.

[azmom]

15. Keep working folks! N/t

[artislife]

16. Fired up and ready to go!

[eridani]

17. I don't trust polls--not even the ones that favor my candidate n/t

[Enthusiast]

18. Kicked and recommended!

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[pinebox]

19. But it's Goodman! lol

I'm almost tempted to go post this in GD-P and see how many Hillary supporters go whacko because it's a Goodman article lol
Taking bets!
I'll even shorten the URL

Here goes nothing lol

[swilton]

22. Please explain the Goodman reference

[pinebox]

23. They get mad

because Goodman is a Bernie supporter who criticizes Hillary and was once a Paul supporter or something. They can't take the heat.

[swilton]

21. Thanks, Omaha Steve

Yes, I've been feeling down and yes the most recent polls haven't been going in the right directions. I think from time to time the positive news has been cherry-picked given the revelations about the super delegates and the absolute power behind the Clinton machine.

The Clinton camp has their own industry to create the press releases, the polls and the debates to favor her campaign.

I'm going to continue to work rather than just roll over. This revolution has to contribute to a global social movement - we may lose a few battles but we are in an all out war for the future of the planet and our loved ones. We can expect to have set-backs and bumps along the road. But we have to continue the struggle to build a global movement. There have been precedents for this kind of thing - Jeremy Corbyn in Britain, the Syriza Party in Greece....then there are the cases of Latin American countries.

It can be done.